pulling through the clicker

[mstore]

hello...
Im trying to get a proper recurve form... today i noticed that the reason i have difficulties hitting the gold is because the clicker was set too far in. i had it set about one cm from the tip. this made it hard to pull through the clicker. I also seemed to be to far beyond a good line... My elbow was over rotated so i decreased my draw lenght with 1.5" now im in better line with the arrow and i can actually see the sight pin . I used to have problem with that because of my glasses. Now... The problem is that when i draw the bow... i pull through the clicker unless i have it set 1cm towards the bow. The problem with this is that if i have the clicker set for good shooting i allways pull through the clicker when drawing the bow and if i set it so i can draw the bow without pulling through the clicker it

[Flehrad]

You need someone to help watch you shoot.

Set the clicker 1cm in (as you say), and then draw and anchor as normal so that you are in good form position (as you normally would be for a good release/shot). Your friend should then take note how far the clicker is to the tip of the arrow. You let down, and he moves the clicker so that it is about 1-2mm from falling off the point. It'll take a few goes probably, but you should be able to get to a point where when you anchor, you won't pull through, but yet you will only have a small fraction of a distance to travel for the final expansion stage of your draw before release.

[Progen]

First thing is, how long have you been shooting? If only for a few months and on your own, like myself, then your form certainly hasn't settled down yet. Most likely what you're doing is to either jerk your drawing side further than anchor or to over extend your bowarm during drawing. That's provided you're sure that the arrows are cut to the correct length! The arrows have to be cut to YOUR drawlength, not you adapting your drawing and anchoring to whatever length they were cut to. If you're lucky enough to get an experienced archer to watch you shoot, try shooting without the clicker BUT watch the form. Don't worry about where the arrow goes. Shoot blind if you can BUT watch the form. Once you're shooting fine, THEN check whether the arrows have been cut too short.

[Drummo]

you shouldn't be "pulling" through the clicker at all. no. you should be "expanding" through the clicker. the idea of this is, once setting up for the shot properly, to bring your scapelae together using only your lower trapezius, with 95% of that expansion coming from the lower trap of your drawing arm. this will cut down a lot on energy requirements and consumption during the shot, and you will no doubt feel a lot stronger throughout the shot process.

If only for a few months and on your own, like myself, then your form certainly hasn't settled down yet.

exactly. if you're going to get a set of arrows, get them at least 1 1/2 inches longer than your measured draw length of the moment. once you start setting yourself up correctly for the shot, i guarantee that you're drawlength will increase anywhere from 1-2 inches.

[Archangel]

I thought the process was pretty simple; set the clicker such that when you come to full draw it's a few mm behind the point, then draw through it. If you can't get that working consistently, find a coach at a local club and get some help.

[Progen]

I think he's either making a long quick draw to anchor and that often results in drawing past anchor OR he's doing what was demonstrated in the Ki Sik website. The one where you draw to an inch or two below your chin and then bring up the drawing hand. Both have the tendency to overdraw especially if you do it too quickly. Maybe that's one of the reasons why Ki Sik advocates actually looking at the clicker once you're near or have reached anchor.