B.E.S.T. Kisik Lee

[pete731]

Hi,

I seeing a lot of discussion since Kisik Lee is the new head coach for the US team.

I would like to know if somebody can explain me what is the B.E.S.T. concept?

If you have some pictures of shooter that applied this shooting technic that would be great.


thanks

[Marcus]

The BEST concept is simply using biomechanics, it's not revolutionary and is simply the US name for it.
Clint Freeman, Dave Cousins and James Park are 3 good examples of excellent biomechanic technique using compound bows.

[Progen]

Just to throw my lot in, it stands for Biomechanically Efficient Shooting Technique.

[andrewf87]

You can get the book total archery by Kisik Lee, its based on recurves but still good or Mastering Compound Bows by Jim Park which from the names is based on compounds.

[rabbitz]

(I know this will probably open a can of worms...)
Is there a prefered reseller from which I can get Jims book?

Rabz

[Marcus]

Listed here, with more to come.

http://www.imparchery.com/dealers.php

[Ahn-Nyong]

Hi,

I seeing a lot of discussion since Kisik Lee is the new head coach for the US team.

I would like to know if somebody can explain me what is the B.E.S.T. concept?

If you have some pictures of shooter that applied this shooting technic that would be great.

Visit www.kslinternationalarchery.com for a detailed explanation under Shot Cycle and some very detailed photos of David Barnes, one of Australia's best :D archers and a good example of the BEST method.


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[rabbitz]

Thanks Marcus

[chang]

The BEST concept is simply using biomechanics, it's not revolutionary and is simply the US name for it.


The book did an excellent job in explaining KS Lee's technique. and the technique is well proven by Coach Lee's record.

However, There isn't any real contents/references/publications on biomechanics to justify those techniques. The chapter on biomechanics is actually about simple archery anotomy and newton's law.

In fact, I am interested on how did coach Lee use biomechanics method to developed his techniques. I've been searching for his work on this for a while now. There are quite a few AIS research publications on archery biomechanics. but I can't find anything by coach Lee so far(execpt his korean thesis. archery application of electromyography ).

[hoyt for life 2]

In fact, I am interested on how did coach Lee use biomechanics method to developed his techniques.
i think he went to university for a few years and learnt a heap of complicated stuff and then derived his style from there.

[Archangel]

In fact, I am interested on how did coach Lee use biomechanics method to developed his techniques.
i think he went to university for a few years and learnt a heap of complicated stuff and then derived his style from there.
As one does at university.... along with drinking copious amounts of beer of course!

[Flehrad]

As an anatomist, you don't really need much to do any biomechanical analysis in terms of references etc.

Muscles are very simple, and joints are even easier. Bones are the easiest lol.

Using force analysis and minimising movement for amount of muscles required is all it is about. My girlfriend did archery specialisation as an assignment for her topographical anatomy 3rd year essay, and found it quite easy to work out the groups involved, and the forces. Ray Axford's book was actually quite decent in it's analysis, and he's not exactly highly qualified either LOL. So, just go pick up a book on physics, and Grey's Anatomy, and in a little while, you'd probably be able to do it also. :lol:

[James Park]

The biomechanics is pretty simple.
What we are trying to do is:
- As far as possible, all forces along bones and through joints.
- Use only the muscles you need to use, and no others.
- Only use muscles at mid-extension, not at full extension or full contraction.

The first point is clearly not possible for the bowarm, so the aim is to get as close as you can.
As noted earlier, these things are not new. They have been known for many years (and were certainly part of our coaching technique in the 1970's).

An example:
Just about the best recurve technique I have ever seen:
http://www.archery-forum.com/4sale/20021214183016.jpg
It is an old picture (1970), but a good one.
Graeme Telford came 3rd in WAC69, shot in the Munich Olympics, held the 50M World Championships Record (300+315 in 1969). And all this with a wooden bow and aluminium arrows.
His technique was in line with modern ideas, but he did it 30 years ago.
Just look at that bowarm and bow hand - superb.
(I was fortunate to have him provide me with some coaching back in about 1962).

[Leighton]

is he canting his head?

[James Park]

is he canting his head?
yes

[Archangel]

So, just go pick up a book on physics, and Grey's Anatomy, and in a little while, you'd probably be able to do it also. :lol:
I assume you mean Gray's Anatomy - not to be confused with the TV program with all the nurses ;-)

[Flehrad]

LOL

Yeah, Gray's, Henry Gray, F.R.S.

I got a copy (softcover) for $20. Great value, and the best thing about anatomy texts is that the human body doesn't really change much in a few centuries LOL.

[Purple Hats]

He looks like his bow shoulder is a little high Jim? Or is that just the angle and how his head is positioned?

[robbo]

I think it just looks that way, because the photo was taken from below the level of the shoulder.

[Oldtimer]

My memories of Graham from the Munich Olympics is that his bow shoulder was a bit high.

[chang]

biomechanical analysis processs usually defines an analysis method for a sport and then apply the method to the sport

To develop a biomechanics analysis method for a particular sport:
1. To develop a MECHANICAL model base on the dominant anatomic structure that executes the motion sequence.
2. Apply the motion sequence to the model and classify measurable factors that would affect performance
3. Apply the model to human to verify/estimate it correctness and performance, as well as making necessary adjustments.

To apply this biomechanics method:
1. Test a individuals response to those factors
2. Adjust his/her technique to balance all those factors optimally.
3. Verify performance

There are a lot of this kind of material for swimming from AIS. Some of factors can be measured by special equipments, but there are many factors can be monitored visually by coaches. Some of bio-feedback factors may only felt by the athlets themself as sensation at certain area.

For shooting, common factors are efficiency, stability(balance) and bio-feedback level(more related to pyschological stress). It is known that mechanical efficiency did not always associate with stability and low stress level. most of researches are rather on how to balance them all and how to apply them on different individuals. In the early 90's, Rick Mckinney's research already involved measuring physical stress level of bow wrist, shoulders, back, and neck area against different technique. overall body movement was also measured to determind overall stabilities.



The biomechanics in TA seem to become a general team, It sound more like what ever technique/method he thought to be using the strength most efficiently, but without the biomechanically analysis