The right "alternatives" ?

[Wysiwyg]

Hello,
did anybody here face some troubles with this shop alternatives services (in england) ?
I had a bad story already shared on an other forum, but it would be interesting to have your impressions.

[New Tricks]

If you mean alternative lifestyle, pm apexrob. If you mean anything else, I am not able to share any information.

[Cartz]

can't say i've had any trouble with them. However, they did take a while to get over here even though timing was great considering it's location. However, i would be prefer to use Urban for the greater speed in postage and better service. It's always better ordering gear closer to home.

[Flehrad]

I've bought from Altservices.co.uk heaps, and will continue to do so for items I can't find here with reasonable price (by that I mean, if it's something I need soon, urgently etc, local prices reasonable for time, if it's not urgent, then the cheaper prices there plus time may be cheaper)

Never had a problem with them, and communications via email has always been great when problems have arised (wrong item sent once, and item out of stock). I'd rate them rather highly for their service as a international customer.

[Progen]

If you mean alternative lifestyle, pm apexrob. If you mean anything else, I am not able to share any information.

He meant Alternative Sporting Services.


My, wysiwyg, you're on a real vendetta here, aren't you? 8)

[Wysiwyg]

My, wysiwyg, you're on a real vendetta here, aren't you? 8)

A little bit....this experience was extremly unpleasant to me, especially because I tried more than 1 time to make things work fine.
And as I know now that I am not an isolated case, let's say that I think such experiences should be shared, (as well as good experiences).

[Eberbachl]

Used to deal with them a bit.

Service was fine mostly. Had one experience when they sent a product that was absolutely crap (well outside stated tolerances), and they weren't interested in taking it back. After a bit of arguing they came good, but they made it pretty hard initially.

If I couldn't source something elsewhere I'd buy from them again.

[Progen]

Well, I have dealt with them twice. Both were fine.

[Marcus]

Well, I have dealt with them twice. Both were fine.Thank U for sharing

[frommy]

If you mean alternative lifestyle, pm apexrob. If you mean anything else, I am not able to share any information.

He meant Alternative Sporting Services.


My, wysiwyg, you're on a real vendetta here, aren't you? 8)

OMG, I agree with Progen.

wyswyg, I have had one experience similar to yours, as mentioned on Sagi', and Tony can be very abrupt if challenged that he is at fault.

I have also had many very smooth transactions with Alt Services, very prompt delivery, and low delivery costs from the UK for products not readiliy available in Oz at a reasonable price.

I will continue to deal with Alt Services, but not to the detriment of local, and good, retailers in Oz, who can supply the product at a competitive price.

Brian

[Eberbachl]

Tony can be very abrupt if challenged that he is at fault.



:rofl:

Understatement of the week!

:rofl:

[frommy]

:behindsofa:

[Progen]

Well, I have dealt with them twice. Both were fine.Thank U for sharing

What I meant was I myself had dealt with them twice and both times were fine. Wasn't going to take Tony's side and neither was I going to say anything about the negative stuff that I'd heard from other folks whom I know in real life.

Sort of saying that I ain't offering any opinion or comment, just stating a point of fact.

wyswyg, I have had one experience similar to yours, as mentioned on Sagi', and Tony can be very abrupt if challenged that he is at fault.

That's what I thought too. :lol:


ps. Marcus, I really am serious about the Triple 700. How soon can you get them in?

[Jay.G]

dealt with them once there was abit of problem with the transaction fees and it took us to get that problem out of the way for like an extra 2 weeks but now its fine if i need something really really urgently i'd go for them, if not well Urban's the way to go.

[Progen]

dealt with them once there was abit of problem with the transaction fees and it took us to get that problem out of the way for like an extra 2 weeks but now its fine if i need something really really urgently i'd go for them, if not well Urban's the way to go.

I think primal's the hot contender for the new admin position, considering he's been their slave for so long now. :lol:

[Harald]

Used them a lot here in Norway. NO huge problems.
Might be a bit slow sometimes but I reckon thats mostly parcel service
in Norw after goods arrived here. Wish they where better at fooling NOrw customs though...... :D :D 8) :bday:

[Archangel]

I've used them quite a few times in the past, and can't complain about their service. Most stuff turns up within a week or so.

I have been unimpressed by some of their political ramblings recently - one of their newsletters a while back basically accused FITA of being biased towards Hoyt because of something they said about shoot-through risers, which I thought was a bit off.

[hoyt for life 2]

its good when you need a few points or something because you dont have to bie a whole dozen like at most shops.

[ninevalleys]

I have been unimpressed by some of their political ramblings recently - one of their newsletters a while back basically accused FITA of being biased towards Hoyt because of something they said about shoot-through risers, which I thought was a bit off.

hey, how the hell does havin a shoot through riser become biest?, jeez i was the only junior shooting a proelite, adn i also shot my worst score!!, it aint hte bow, its the dude or dudette behind it

NV

[Archangel]

hey, how the hell does havin a shoot through riser become biest?, jeez i was the only junior shooting a proelite, adn i also shot my worst score!!, it aint hte bow, its the dude or dudette behind it

NV
I forget the details - it was a while ago, and I think before Hoyt released their -elite risers. It hinged around the fact that Don Rabska is employed by Hoyt.
Like I said, I wasn't too impressed.

[Marcus]

I believe it was because FITA ruled that you can not have the cables on a shoot throughsystem touch your arm. Altservices climed that this was to disadvantage them, Martiin and others who make shoot through systems because Jim Easton is FITA president and owns Hoyt.

IMHO it's all BS and FITA is simply following the rules correctly.

[Marcus]

BTW my opinion on this matter

Cartels are a cheap arrow and when you buy cheap, expect cheap. You may get good batches here and there, but in order to sell down to a price quality control is sacrifised. Don't like it, buy an X10.

I believe the problem here is NOT with shipping, NOT with Altservices, but with Cartel's quality control. If they were mine I would cut the end down and shoot the things.

At around $20 a shaft (or whatever you paid in whatever currency) if you can't fix it, throw it out and buy another one. By the time you and altservices ship that things around the world a few times it will become the world's most expensive arrow. A Triple is a long shaft, it will cost you 1/4 just to return it.

Now this raises a question. You have gotten a bad arrow from Cartel. Who pays for the shaft, Cartel, Altservices or you.
Before you answer that keep in mind that if it is Cartel or Altservices they would need to employ a person in the future to avoid such incidents.

[Jay.G]

I think primal's the hot contender for the new admin position, considering he's been their slave for so long now.


lol progen im not contending for anything, Im merely stating urban is good because i've dealt with Marcus many times and theres never been a mistake in any of my orders and im not sure, if i've placed lots of orders but certainly for me it is and im always happy with them so really im not contending. :rainbowafro:

[The One]

I wish I could construct such long sentences as this fine one ;)

[Jay.G]

:lol: :lol:

[Archangel]

I believe it was because FITA ruled that you can not have the cables on a shoot throughsystem touch your arm. Altservices climed that this was to disadvantage them, Martiin and others who make shoot through systems because Jim Easton is FITA president and owns Hoyt.

IMHO it's all BS and FITA is simply following the rules correctly.
Thanks for that Marcus - my recollection was a bit hazy. I could have tried to look it up, but why bother when I can just post and have someone tell me :-P

I agree entirely that it's BS - there's an exact mirror of that rule about bracing on the Axis/Aerotec/Helix, and FITA weren't deterred by the fact that Hoyt makes them.

[Progen]

I wish I could construct such long sentences as this fine one ;)

Just swap all the full stops for commas. Do that with President Bush's inauguration speech. :lol: Going to be a real mouthful for some rapper to rap to.

[frommy]

I believe it was because FITA ruled that you can not have the cables on a shoot throughsystem touch your arm. Altservices climed that this was to disadvantage them, Martiin and others who make shoot through systems because Jim Easton is FITA president and owns Hoyt.

IMHO it's all BS and FITA is simply following the rules correctly.
Thanks for that Marcus - my recollection was a bit hazy. I could have tried to look it up, but why bother when I can just post and have someone tell me :-P

I agree entirely that it's BS - there's an exact mirror of that rule about bracing on the Axis/Aerotec/Helix, and FITA weren't deterred by the fact that Hoyt makes them.

I was also not impressed with Alt Services stance on this issue, and, more particularly, in the manner in which Tony presented his arguement.

Brian

[highway-star]

Well, I have dealt with them twice. Both were fine.

I have dealt with them many times, no problem at all. My friends too, he bought a pair of limbs, no problem.

[Harald]

Me don't care bout politics me would buy from Hitler if hedelivered the quality goods....... :D :D :D

[Patchy]

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1272/hitleruniform6kt.jpg

Hitler shoots a Hoyt

[Progen]

Didn't know Hoyt urban camouflage baggies were the rage then. :lol: