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bigfella
11-05-2006, 05:02 PM
With the National Indoors now around 8 weeks away, I wonder what is happening with the format in the different states. Would be nice to know. :P

New Tricks
11-05-2006, 05:08 PM
:lol:

I have an envelope already filled out to mail in my scores.

Once again let me state I think it is a rediculous idea.

:bday:

Normie
11-05-2006, 05:22 PM
you have to shoot in your states state indoor titles, then submit those scores you shoot in that tournament, is that correct?

if so, are the scores submitted automatically by the RGB or is it up to the individual to do so? apologies if this has all been discussed previously :lol:

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Marcus
11-05-2006, 05:43 PM
All state bodies know what is going on.
The scores are submitted by the organisers of the state indoors via the web.

I trust you won't be shooting in it then NT?

New Tricks
11-05-2006, 06:19 PM
Spot on Mate.

I hate to be a negative nancy about it as well. Well kind of. 8)

2Dogs
11-05-2006, 06:43 PM
He'll be there......Pearson and all :D

New Tricks
11-05-2006, 06:44 PM
LOL. I may ride the Chrono up and give you blokes crap but that is as close as i will get to it.

bigfella
11-05-2006, 08:55 PM
Back to my original post... what formats are the RGB's in different states adopting? :-?

DanceswithDingoes
12-05-2006, 06:38 AM
All state bodies know what is going on
Doesnt mean they are passing it on to us plebs :lol:

Owen
12-05-2006, 07:27 AM
In the ACT we are doing a seperate event, it is not going to be part of our state champs so we still get two shoots not the one :)

bigfella
12-05-2006, 09:35 AM
In the ACT we are doing a seperate event, it is not going to be part of our state champs so we still get two shoots not the one :)

That is good to hear as it would seem that some RGB's are going to shoot one tournament and use the results for both state and national championships.

No doubt there are logistical issues for some places that may set limitations on how the event/s are run, but it does seem the perfect opportunity to host 2 separate events and make a full weekend of indoor tourments.

Clare Barnes
12-05-2006, 09:56 AM
I gather SA is running the Indoor Nationals here in conjunction with the State Indoor event on Sunday 16 July. Those shooting for just the State title shoot a FITA 18m Indoor in the morning (our Indoor title is awarded on just the one round), and those competing for National titles shoot another FITA 18m in the afternoon.

Oldtimer
12-05-2006, 11:16 AM
Be patient, bigfella. The SQAS entry form, with full details, will be sent next week.

frommy
12-05-2006, 12:27 PM
NSW details are available

http://www.archerynsw.com/index.php?option=com_events&task=view_detail&agid=77&year=2006&month=07&day=15&Itemid=31

bigfella
12-05-2006, 12:56 PM
Be patient, bigfella. The SQAS entry form, with full details, will be sent next week.

:P

bigfella
12-05-2006, 12:57 PM
Wonder what North Queensland is doing

Flame
12-05-2006, 03:11 PM
Wonder what North Queensland is doing

http://eventcal.sportcal.com/personal/pcalendar_public_nation_searchevent.asp?snation=1&nationcode=AUS&nation=Australia&eventcode=1842006%2DARC1316541%3A16%3A54+PM

bigfella
12-05-2006, 04:18 PM
Wonder what North Queensland is doing

http://eventcal.sportcal.com/personal/pcalendar_public_nation_searchevent.asp?snation=1&nationcode=AUS&nation=Australia&eventcode=1842006%2DARC1316541%3A16%3A54+PM

Doesn't give any more info than what is already in the public domain :-?

Brocky
12-05-2006, 06:35 PM
$50.00 a day for each archer. It must cost a large amount to run a indoor in NSW or is it the new concept :roll: the online charges.

robbo
12-05-2006, 07:21 PM
$50 :o for 60 arrows, almost a $1 an arrow.


That makes it $200 for me, if my kids and I want to shoot it, plus travel etc. Just about puts it out of my reach. :-?

Clare Barnes
12-05-2006, 07:31 PM
$50 :o for 60 arrows, almost a $1 an arrow.

Cheer up. The National titles are decided over 120 arrows so it's already only 1/2 the price you thought it was/arrow! :D

Brocky
12-05-2006, 08:20 PM
Cheer up. The National titles are decided over 120 arrows so it's already only 1/2 the price you thought it was/arrow!

Nationals Target $100.00, 288 arrows plus the match play compared to $50.00 120 arrows no matchplay :roll: The broadband connection in a outer/outer/outer Sydney suburb must cost more.

Flame
12-05-2006, 08:43 PM
Doesn't give any more info than what is already in the public domain :-?

but it does tell you who to contact if you want more information :D

The One
13-05-2006, 07:13 AM
Seems reasonable to me

katzgrin
13-05-2006, 12:53 PM
Seems reasonable to me

Until you pay for it in NZ dollars. :D

The One
13-05-2006, 03:19 PM
They're not all Thaaaaat different! For a National championship, there's quite a bit of administration and organisation required so I can understand why it's a little bit more expensive than a normal tournament

Brocky
13-05-2006, 05:27 PM
Geeeesh you'd pay anything to win an Ausi title :wink:

unclepete
13-05-2006, 08:10 PM
Cheer up. The National titles are decided over 120 arrows so it's already only 1/2 the price you thought it was/arrow!

Nationals Target $100.00, 288 arrows plus the match play compared to $50.00 120 arrows no matchplay :roll: The broadband connection in a outer/outer/outer Sydney suburb must cost more.

Personally, I'd prefer one tournament contesting two titles for $50, than 2 separate tournaments for $35-$40 each.

robbo
13-05-2006, 09:00 PM
Actually I would prefer the two comps over the two titles. :D

robbo
13-05-2006, 09:03 PM
Altough I have given it a bit of thought, part of the added expense maybe because of the two lots of awards, State and National. :-?

robbo
13-05-2006, 09:12 PM
Not that it matters too much now, doesn't look like I will be able to afford to rejoin AA this year. Unless I win lotto. :D

bigfella
13-05-2006, 09:34 PM
Actually I would prefer the two comps over the two titles. :D

Me too

New Tricks
13-05-2006, 11:28 PM
I have already stated my displeasure with the event but I have to expand as to why.

Different States are shooting the event on different days. Part of competition is actually competing against another individual. The postal/internet format means that this does not occur.

For so many years there was no indoor National Title. Indoor was rarely shot by anyone and was a bit of a joke. We could not even get 3 Mens Compound shooters over the MQS to go and shoot a world event.

In recent times it seems that the Indoor game is followed a bit more. Having a State and also a National title gives more big game day experience that is just what an archer needs and the guys/gals likely to make the team are they people who will most likely travel and shoot both anyway. Combining the two while financially sound, is in my opinion not in the best interest of the game. People will get a sour taste in their mouth over perceived or actual advantages/disadvantages from venue to venue and I would be pretty safe to say that in certain States, the numbers will decline.

Look at the history of the IFAA Mail matches in this country. They went from strong to gone in a very short space of time. It did not help to hear of certain individuals flipping coins to determine arrow scores and others shooting well and truely above their 'mass participation event' scores.

Sure there will be judges at the AA events but they are not judging the same event and, once again in my opinion, the event is not in anyway a reasonable way to determine a national champion.

edit.. LOL 1400th post. Something in that for all of us.

Marcus
14-05-2006, 12:17 AM
2 options
1) No National Indoor at all
2) Try something new and see how it goes

I take it you prefer #1 NT? I prefer option 2.

Owen
14-05-2006, 06:28 AM
Combining the two while financially sound, is in my opinion not in the best interest of the game.



Ummm the ACT is running two events National and State ...

Owen

bigfella
14-05-2006, 04:32 PM
Combining the two while financially sound, is in my opinion not in the best interest of the game.



Ummm the ACT is running two events National and State ...

Owen

If you are going to run a double tournament this is the way to do it. And I agree with NT that combining the events for what ever reason as some RGB's are doing is not in the best interest of archery. It is simply a matter of expediency

Clare Barnes
26-05-2006, 07:48 AM
You could come to Adelaide and shoot the Indoor Nationals robbo. Everyone shoots both FITA 18m Indoor Rounds on July 16th and entry fee is $20/archer. :D

(SA already has a policy of charging only $10/archer to enter any state run event so this has doubled as it is the State Champs as well as the National Champs.)

robbo
26-05-2006, 04:40 PM
Would love to go to Adelaide one day. :D But not yet, after I win lotto. :-? :D