what are the best nocs to use ?

[sharmanwolf]

hi all just wondering what are the best nocs to use on arrows as i have destroyed 12 arrows and knoc's buy hitting one against another and into steel posts that hold the target butt ... as the expense of replacing not only the arrow but the nocs are killing me as i love the sport and i have a lot of club members helping me as i go along and i have to buy all my equipment from Adelaide and the postage costs dont help .... I know that you archery Buff have paid out heaps on equipment and have gained the knowledge of what to get i would like to tap into the knowledge

[Jay.G]

Easton pin nock system best i've used no matter what other people say about them they are good they've saved me at least half a dozen shaft from splitting from the impact of another arrow.

[frommy]

It may be of more assistance to us if you advise what shafts you are shooting.

:confused:

[Brocky]

I would move back from 2 meters to 20 and see how you go;)

[TJ Mason]

Beiter in-out nocks, I'd say. Very tough (and more precisely made than other nocks).

There are mixed opinions about pin nocks -- some find they're the ultimate arrow protector, others find that they worsen the damage by acting as a lever that bends the shaft from the inside. That's why Beiter don't make nocks for pins.

[New Tricks]

Very much arrow dependant. Beiters are good but I find the small G nocks are the goods for longevity.

[sharmanwolf]

the arrows are Eastern Lite Jazz 1916 at 30inch

[sharmanwolf]

I would move back from 2 meters to 20 and see how you go;)


i am shooting at 30mtrs when this happens also at 20mtrs but more at 30 mtrs

[Archangel]

G nocks were okay, but I don't like the way they fit into the shaft or onto the string. Easton pin nocks are expensive, but they're the business.

[Cartz]

I'm for Beiter In Out nocks. I've been unlucky with Pin nocks before, if they get a decent hit, the pin can get shoved into the shaft and can prove difficult to get out. G Nocks have been mostly decent. Great value but once again, a decent hit in the middle (rare, but it happens), can split the nock in two and put enough pressure on the inside of the shaft to split the end. I've found when Beiter In Out nocks get hit, the top half just breaks off, leaving the sleave around the shaft.

Although, both Pin nocks and Beiter In out's are quite pricey, Easton G Nocks would be (in my opinion) the way to go for your arrows, seeing as Pin nocks and Beiters aren't made for Easton Lite Jazz arrows (i think). Plus you shouldn't get the above mentioned problem with G nocks whilst using an Aluminium shaft.

Hope that helps,

Cartz

[frommy]

Sorry, but can someone please enlighten me as to when Easton Jazz aluminium shafts changed from a chamfered rear end to a system which would allow pin nocks and others as mentioned in this thread? :confused: :confused:

[Archangel]

Sorry, but can someone please enlighten me as to when Easton Jazz aluminium shafts changed from a chamfered rear end to a system which would allow pin nocks and others as mentioned in this thread? :confused: :confused:
Sorry, didn't catch that - the post where he mentioned that was after Brocky's post in the thread, so I never read that far :-D

[Thing]

No you can't change the shafts to allow pin nocks.
So I think all the knock suggestions so far aren't going to help you.

There aren't very many types of nocks that fit coned arrows. Pretty much any one of them will be just as good.

I'd suggest Arizona Plastinock's (http://www.altservices.biz/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/00309.5.1991061030482025819?). You'll probably want to buy them locally of course, that site is in the uk.

If you can find cheaper nocks however, they probably wont serve you any different.

Cheers.

[Cartz]

So I think all the knock suggestions so far aren't going to help you.



Easton G-nocks mate...

[Thing]

Easton G-nocks mate...

Sorry thought the original poster was the one using Jazz arrows.

Edit: just read up. They are, so yeah can't use G-nocks.

[Cartz]

buy better arrows then :p

[Jay.G]

yea if you are really wiping down the number of arrows you have over splitting them then you can't really stop it with Jazz arrows.

unless change your arrows to something like platinum pluses which offers you the opportunity of using G-nocks or if you can be bothered, use pin nocks but its abit hard since you have to take the super bushing out and glue the pins in to the bushing with loctite.

[Archangel]

If they're only Jazz arrows, I wouldn't be so worried about breaking them :-P
Seriously, pin nocks would probably cost practically as much as the arrows do. I'd look upon it as a good excuse to upgrade to some carbons :-)

[c3]

If I'm not mistaken, Easton has a new "X" Uni bushing that fits an X Nock for 1816, 1913 and 1916 arrows.

The X nocks fit the Full Metal Jacket, ST Axis and AC SuperSlim without the unibushing.

See if you can't find some of those and cut off the nock end of the Jazz arrows. It should work perfectly if you think the Jazz arrows are worth the trouble :)

Cheers,
Pete

[TJ Mason]

unless change your arrows to something like platinum pluses which offers you the opportunity of using G-nocks or if you can be bothered, use pin nocks but its abit hard since you have to take the super bushing out and glue the pins in to the bushing with loctite.
Pins can be glued into uni bushing (up to size 1916 on aluminiums). If the bushing will take a G-nock (not super nock), it'll take pins. I've just done that very thing with some A/C/Cs.

Pins and the nocks for them are pretty cheap in the UK: 55p for the pin, 70p for the nock from Quicks.

[frommy]

Sharmanwolf,

What you are seeing, in the main, in this thread, are people reacting to the "Read new posts" option, without reading the whole thread.

May I reitorate some good advice given above by Archangel and Thing. Just get cheap Arizona nocks to use on a Jazz shaft, but also, if you are hammering your own arrows so hard, move back in range.

And when you are financial, think about the other options suggested on carbon or composite shafts.

Brian