Australia V Italy - World Cup Soccer

[CMB50]

The Last 16 in the World Cup and Australia are there....


...time to take on the italians.


PLACE YOUR BETS!

[ninevalleys]

gotta back the home team. even though italy are pretty damn good

[StevenB]

can there be a draw in a knock out comp

[CMB50]

This event is to bet on the result of the match after 90mins of regulation time - including any additional injury time.

It DOES NOT consider the result after any additional game time should there be a draw and DOES NOT consider the result after a penalty shoot-out should it be required.

[Vittorio]

Let's see....

[Stace]

Potentially, there's no reason why Australia can't win.

Italian football is going through a bit of a rough trot this week and it could either motivate them or kick the wind out of them.

I'd like to see Australia win although I fear the worst.

If it is the end of the tournament for them, it's been extremely successful and can only help to increase the popularity of the A league even further.

[Juggs]

whats soccer? my tvs never shown it

[Ed]

can there be a draw in a knock out comp

No - if tied at end of game then they go to 30 minutes extra time; 15 mins each way. If still tied then a penalty shoot-out. Every game from Round 2 is a knockout affair.

[Brocky]

This is hard if we look at how the ref's have been towards the Ausi's well its going to make it hard.
If we look at the other team the Greeks I think they are very weak in the back side area of their game.
Overall I would say 5 nil Socceroos:o

[CMB50]

This is hard if we look at how the ref's have been towards the Ausi's well its going to make it hard.
If we look at the other team the Greeks I think they are very weak in the back side area of their game.
Overall I would say 5 nil Socceroos:o

Brocky,

We're playing the italians.

[BrokenArr0w]

i cant loose:D!!1!

[Liam]

Laid it all down on...

Italy.

:D

[StevenB]

No - if tied at end of game then they go to 30 minutes extra time; 15 mins each way. If still tied then a penalty shoot-out. Every game from Round 2 is a knockout affair.


I know that, I asked because of the tipping, but question answered by CMB50


Juggs, the soccer stuff is played on SBS - Soccer Broadcast Station

The A league will get more exposure but I don't think it will have a huge impact on AFL or NRL, especially with rugby bringing out a new national comp to go between club rugby and super 14s

[Cartz]

how the ref's have been towards the Ausi's well its going to make it hard.


We haven't had a decent ref yet...one thing that really needs to be implemented into soccer is the video ref....cricket has it, rugby has it....why not soccer (football)? It would make the game free of all those pansy players who have a degree in acting...

[PaulM]

No one wins a bet if ITALY wins by 3 or more :eek:

GO AUSSIES GO!!!

[CMB50]

That was my secret way out of paying anyone! Thanks for spoiling it! :rolleyes: :D

Fixed.

[Progen]

CMB50, what time does the match start and end at your time? Says this on top of this thread:-

This event will accept bets until 26-06-2006 at 10:30 PM
This event will pay out after 26-06-2006 at 10:30 PM

If 10.30's the time at which the match ends, then I'd be the smartypants and wait till 10.20 odd pm to place bets. :-D

And if 10.30's the time at which the match starts, then you've got to be psychic. :confused:

[CMB50]

The match starts at 0100hrs Melbourne time or 2300hrs in your time zone.

Trust me - i've checked all of this out and betting will close for everyone BEFORE the game starts.

:D

[Clare Barnes]

This event will pay out after 26-06-2006 at 10:30 PM

And if 10.30's the time at which the match starts, then you've got to be psychic. :confused:

Why? 10.30pm (or any other time) on 27-06-2006 is "AFTER" 26-06-2006 at 10:30 PM, he doesn't say "AT". :rolleyes:

[frommy]

Cam,

Perhaps it may help some to clarify this tote. SBS are beginning their broadcast at approx 12:15 am Tuesday 27 June Aust Eastern time. And I do not think soccer is a 90 minute game.

Just trying to be helpfull. :cool:

Brian

[Eberbachl]

...the Greeks I think they are very weak in the back side area....

Yes, I've heard that about the Greeks! :o

:rofl:

What do they say about Greek style?

:shocked!: :rofl: :shocked!:

[StevenB]

Cam,

Perhaps it may help some to clarify this tote. SBS are beginning their broadcast at approx 12:15 am Tuesday 27 June Aust Eastern time. And I do not think soccer is a 90 minute game.

Just trying to be helpfull. :cool:

Brian


The game kicks off at 1:00am, and it is played in 2 halves of 45mins

[frommy]

The game kicks off at 1:00am, and it is played in 2 halves of 45mins

:sorry:

Getting mixed up with the Rugby test last night, length of game wise.

:behindsofa:

[StevenB]

:p

[Progen]

(Wheel Of Fortune style) Big money, big money :-D


Game's tonight, ain't it?


(More chanting) Big money, big money

[Bia]

Forza Azzuri!

[StevenB]

Forza Azzuri!


you'll keep:p

[Luke]

Go the ROOS!

[Liam]

Italy better score a goal soon.

I'm all outta vcash!

2 goals even, and soon. I want to go to sleep.

[andrewf87]

What kind of Australian are you Liam !

[Progen]

What kind of Australian are you Liam !

A broke one in need of a lot of vCash. :grin:

[Liam]

What kind of Australian are you Liam !

One that thinks italy will own australia!

[Liam]

A broke one in need of a lot of vCash. :grin:

Hahaha. :D

Exactly, no patriotic bets for me, I want more vCash!

[Progen]

I sure hope the administrators don't check and post how much I'd betted on Italy. :rolleyes:

[Liam]

I sure hope the administrators don't check and post how much I'd betted on Italy. :rolleyes:

you hid your bet... sneaky?

[CMB50]

Australia have had more possession but Italy look more dangerous infront of goal. Should be a good match.



Liam - You're a disgrace :)

[Liam]

Ed 500 5/2 (2.50) -
Eolla 250 5/2 (2.50) -
Liam 250 5/2 (2.50) -
mike 80 5/2 (2.50) -
Pete 50 5/2 (2.50) -
PaulM 50 5/2 (2.50) -
Zoe 50 5/2 (2.50) -
goldie 25 5/2 (2.50) -
BrokenArr0w 20 5/2 (2.50) -
The One 16 5/2 (2.50) -
hoyt for life 2 15


So are they! *points*

Italy haven't scored after 40 minutes. :(

[CMB50]

:o


Italian Red Card and down to 10 men! Our best chance yet!

[Stace]

:o


Italian Red Card and down to 10 men! Our best chance yet!

Not neccesarily, the Italians more or less invented all out defending!

It's looking good though.

[Progen]

:hail: Italy, please score!!!

[Liam]

10 minutes to go and it's still nil all. =|

[Progen]

10 minutes to go and it's still nil all. =|

Just take heart that Ed's going to lose more than you, Liam. :-D

He put EVERYTHING on Italy winning by more than 2 goals.

[Liam]

C'mon italy... 2 goals in 4 minutes!

[Progen]

C'mon italy... 2 goals in 4 minutes!


I'm with you this time. We're probably just as busy as the commentators now. :-D

[Liam]

Just take heart that Ed's going to lose more than you, Liam. :-D

He put EVERYTHING on Italy winning by more than 2 goals.

Haha.

[Liam]

Well, no vcash for me.


C'MON AUSTRALIA!

[Progen]

Well, no vcash for me.


C'MON AUSTRALIA!

Now that's a fast turnaround!

[CMB50]

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


Penalty!

[Progen]

Italy 1 - Australia 0!!!

:-D :-D :-D

[Liam]

Damn, italy might win, and I won't get anything! That's a double blow...

[CMB50]

What a load of ****!

[Liam]

Damn.

:(

[StevenB]

bull****, that was a crap penalty

[Progen]

Damn.

:(

Where did you blow the other 250 vCash?

Come on, Italy did ok, didn't they? Wonder what would have happened if they had been in better form? Back to their old more offensive style.

Now I've got more money than CMB50. :p

Liam, would you like a loan? :rolleyes:

[CMB50]

I'm off to incite Rioting at Federation Square in Melbourne if it hasn't begun already.


:onfire: :2gunfire:

[StevenB]

I'm off to incite Rioting at Federation Square in Melbourne if it hasn't begun already.


:onfire: :2gunfire:


don't worry it has already started, I'm off to Norton st for the same thing:)

[CMB50]

Nice :robot:

[Progen]

I'm off to incite Rioting at Federation Square in Melbourne if it hasn't begun already.


:onfire: :2gunfire:


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[Liam]

Where did you blow the other 250 vCash?

Come on, Italy did ok, didn't they? Wonder what would have happened if they had been in better form? Back to their old more offensive style.

Now I've got more money than CMB50. :p

Liam, would you like a loan? :rolleyes:

other two games.

Hope I win something on the indoor nationals now...

Got a hundred on Coghlan and 50 on Barnes...

[Progen]

Took a look at the bets placed on Italy winning by 1 goal and guess what? :rolleyes:

Progen 173 4/1 (4.00) 692
Eolla 150 4/1 (4.00) 600
Stace 100 4/1 (4.00) 400
Geek Girl 100 4/1 (4.00) 400
mrlogan 89 4/1 (4.00) 356
Eberbachl 50 4/1 (4.00) 200
PaulM 50 4/1 (4.00) 200
CMB50 50 4/1 (4.00) 200
Zoe 50 4/1 (4.00) 200
mike 50 4/1 (4.00) 200
Ja 50 4/1 (4.00) 200
coxxie 50 4/1 (4.00) 200
Hobanger 50 4/1 (4.00) 200
Nathan 50 4/1 (4.00) 200
Clare Barnes 30 4/1 (4.00) 120
goldie 25 4/1 (4.00) 100
frommy 20 4/1 (4.00) 80
BrokenArr0w 20 4/1 (4.00) 80
hoyt for life 2 9 4/1 (4.00) 36

:multi:

Errr, administrators, can we have a vCash loan feature? With interest to be set by the lender? :-D

[New Tricks]

It is UnAustralian to bet against Australia at any time. You should all be ashamed. Some of the names on the list do not surprise me however.

Now lets get back to decent sport. Ashes coming up and Wimbeldon started last night. Sweet.

[Marcus]

Why is it that UNAustralian and Intelligent often seem to go hand in hand? :confused:

[The One]

Sheesh, you're all doing my job! ;)

[Eberbachl]

It is UnAustralian to bet against Australia at any time. You should all be ashamed. Some of the names on the list do not surprise me however.

Now lets get back to decent sport. Ashes coming up and Wimbeldon started last night. Sweet.

Bull**** you stupid Bogan.

I love Australia, and I'm an extremely patriotic individual.

But I'm smart enough to realise Australia was likely gonna get beaten by the Italians.

If you want a great example of how stupid blind patriotism can be, head on over to AT.

Don't tell me I'm unAustralian, you Dr Rad

By the way......woohoo! I won 200 vCash :p

[New Tricks]

I hope you enjoy those 200 vCash. Lets not hope you ever need to stand up for your Country in the face of seemigly impossible odds some time. Most likely you will take the easy road. Carry on.

[Eberbachl]

Lets not hope you ever need to stand up for your Country in the face of seemigly impossible odds some time

:rofl:

You idiot!:rolleyes:

Oh no everybody - I threw down 50 vCash on Italy (as well as my 50 vCash on the Aussies), so it seems I won't be able to stand up for my country in the face of seemingly impossible odds.

Dr Rad

[primal]

Carry on.

yes you do a bit dont you.

[Marcus]

I'm a Patriotic ex-Pat Broady Boy living in Mill Park. Nowhere is as good as Broady! :p

[New Tricks]

I threw down 50 vCash on Italy ............. so it seems I won't be able to stand up for my country in the face of seemingly impossible odds.



True colours are often shown in the most unlikely places.

[Eberbachl]

True colours are often shown in the most unlikely places.

You know what...I don't often bring this little guy out, but for you....WTF. Here he is:

:fist:

Don't pretend like you know me tool. You don't know who I am, or what I'm about, so don't go making assumptions based on a fun little vCash game on an Archery forum.

What a Dr Rad

:rolleyes:

BTW...Attention all users:

The following AF members have been hereby declared by our resident tosser New Tricks as being Un Australian:

Eolla
Stace
Geek Girl
mrlogan
Eberbachl
PaulM
CMB50
Zoe
mike
Ja
coxxie
Hobanger
Nathan
Clare Barnes
goldie
frommy
BrokenArr0w
hoyt for life

Please prepare to be deported.

[New Tricks]

But you would be surprised at how well certain actions and reactions let us know you......

[primal]

yo Eber, leave him to his rednecked,xenaphobic, scared little northerner ways. remember he's just showing us in the little ways who he really is.

But you would be surprised at how well certain actions and reactions let us know you......

[Eberbachl]

But you would be surprised at how well certain actions and reactions let us know you......

Indeed, being called UnAustralian by someone who doesn't know me pisses me off.

So if your ignorant intarweb expert comments piss me off because I love and am very proud of my country then so be it.

[New Tricks]

You love your country yet bet against them at the allegedly biggest sporting moment ever?

[New Tricks]

Primal, shush, the grownups are talking.

[Eberbachl]

allegedly biggest sporting moment ever

Now lets get back to decent sport

So, what is it - less than decent, or the biggest sporting moment ever?

I think it's great that Australia got into the world cup, and I think they've done very well in it. I'm proud of our team, and they've won alot of respect in the Soccer world. In subsequent world cups I hope they do better, and as our nation matures as a soccer country I'm sure that we have a real future in the sport.

So, whilst it was a great effort, I think calling it the "biggest sporting moment ever" is taking it a bit far, and makes a mockery of the countless sporting achievements by our fantastic athletes representing Australia in years gone by.

Get over it NT.

[Marcus]

Indeed, being called UnAustralian by someone who doesn't know me pisses me off.
Bloody Germans.



:lol:


ppsssttt am I helping?

[Hannah]

I would just like to say that just because I voted for Australia does not make me a true Australian...especially because I was taking the authority of someone else. I would have quite happily voted for Italy if that authority had have said so ;)

[Marcus]

does not make me a true Australian
Bloody Dutch!

[Eberbachl]

Bloody Germans

Bloody Broady Boy!

[Hannah]

HRH

:rofl:

[New Tricks]

If you read your very quotes, you will note I said allegedly. I personally think it is far from the greatest event/result that a sporting team from this country has every achieved. Did you know that in the entire tournament, Australia was only winning for a total of 3 minutes and tha was Japan in game 1, round 1? That said, I liken it to the Americas cup victory witn Australia 2. Never won it before but everyone got on board for that one. Personally I dislike soccer and the culture that goes with it and apart from at the highest level, will not watch it.

Now we have another event that Australia has traditionally done very poorly in and we have a sniff. How anybody could support the other team is beyond me. I find it interesting that it is soccer that brings this out in people. There is something in that for everybody.

[primal]

Primal, shush, the grownups are talking.

ohhhh comeback :roll: If thats the best you got i think i'll stay.

now get back to carrying on about "Unaustralian" please define what makes someone australian then you can slearly define what is unaustralian.

[Eberbachl]

and we have a sniff.

If you honestly think we ever had a sniff at taking out the World Cup this year dude, you are more deluded than I ever imagined.

I think we have a future in soccer, but we have a way to go before we're really playing with the big boys at their level.

[Hannah]

How anybody could support the other team is beyond me. I find it interesting that it is soccer that brings this out in people. There is something in that for everybody.

Oh C'mon NT - you have no idea who was sitting at home barracking for whoever! Personally I was in bed asleep because I think it is a waste of time. That said, I do not think that just because you voted for either team that it means anything and absolutely nothing can be deduced from it - it just makes you a smart gambler (is this an oxymoron???). Quit whining - stop trying to read things into events that just are not there!

[New Tricks]

If you honestly think we ever had a sniff at taking out the World Cup this year dude, you are more deluded than I ever imagined.



We are not talking of the entire event but in particular the Italy game as is obvious. Beaten by a penalty goal in the last seconds. That is indeed a sniff.

I think we have a future in soccer, but we have a way to go before we're really playing with the big boys at their level.

I do not. Most people will not stand for the rubbish that goes along with the sport in general. Most Australians are reasonable on the sporting field and Soccer is full of those who are not. I would find it interesting to look at the votes of those who backed Italy and the'Would you tell someone to walk up' thread. I think I already know the answer on this one.

[Hannah]

Most Australians are reasonable on the sporting field and Soccer is full of those who are not.

Seems to me that it is actually the fans that are out of control when it comes to Soccer...and that is including 'Australians' - in Melbourne on the night of the first match, a total of seven 7/11's just in the CBD were broken into and stolen from. I don't beleive this assertion is accurate in the least.

[Eberbachl]

We are not talking of the entire event but in particular the Italy game as is obvious. Beaten by a penalty goal in the last seconds. That is indeed a sniff.



I do not. Most people will not stand for the rubbish that goes along with the sport in general. Most Australians are reasonable on the sporting field and Soccer is full of those who are not. I would find it interesting to look at the votes of those who backed Italy and the'Would you tell someone to walk up' thread. I think I already know the answer on this one.

You go and do that. ;)

Go and look up what I said in the would you tell someone to walk up thread.

Please report back here when you have done so.

[Cartz]

I still believe that the integration of the video ref would fix all problems with decision making. The video from the game last night shows that it wasn't a penalty and that the ref shouldn't have awarded it. There is talk about incorporating vid refs in the next world cup. I think that after this world cup is over, there is going to be much controversy surrounding the refs decision-making. Although Fifa warned everyone that they would be coming down hard on the players, it doesn't give the ref the right to make incorrect decisions. Although, the ref might not know any better...

Not a case of sour grapes, i think that Australia had one of the worst runs with referees right from the first match against Japan. Harry Kewell's reaction demonstrated the frustration of the Australian team clearly. One must ask though, if the introduction of the video ref does happen, will Fifa be happy with the loss of control over the sport? When a foul or penalty occurs, there is no missing it, no more 'actors' among the players, and it definately slims the chance of any 'corrupt' refs...

[Hannah]

One must ask though, if the introduction of the video ref does happen, will Fifa be happy with the loss of control over the sport? When a foul or penalty occurs, there is no missing it, no more 'actors' among the players, and it definately slims the chance of any 'corrupt' refs...

Nah, it will just mean that to buy out a ref (aka someone watching the vid) they will just have to pay more :)

[New Tricks]

Interestingly, I just had a look. Of the overall votes in that thread, only 19% chose the 'Not tell' option. Of people who were both thread posters and Italy voters, 66% were a part of the 'Not tell' brigade and this was only from posters and not the voters as it seems that show all voters does not work. Very very telling stat that one.

[Eberbachl]

Interestingly, I just had a look. Of the overall votes in that thread, only 19% chose the 'Not tell' option. Of people who were both thread posters and Italy voters, 66% were a part of the 'Not tell' brigade and this was only from posters and not the voters as it seems that show all voters does not work. Very very telling stat that one.

No no no...you've just been slinging **** at me here, and implying that I'd be in the not tell camp and that I'm not only unAustralian but a bad sport as well.

I asked you to go look up what I said in that thread.

For the record, I would alert any of my competitors if I noticed they were about to make a mistake. Even at a world title. Even if it was Cam!:p

[Mike13]

NT you're confusing sporting competitions with real life.

[2Dogs]

New Tricks 1 Luke 0 :rofl: :rofl:

Well done NT your mission here is accomplished..... only took 4 months

:rofl:

[New Tricks]

Shush. I don't start work for another 2 hours. What am I supposed to do?!?!?!?! :) :) :) I was just getting another handful of whiting nibbling on the line. I must say, Luke was not the person i thought would bite.

It always interests me how people's morals are easily changed or distorted when there is a prize involved.

No no no...you've just been slinging **** at me here, and implying that I'd be in the not tell camp

Never did I say or imply such a thing. Guilty conscience?

and that I'm not only unAustralian

Guilty conscience? ForzaLuke!

, I do not think that just because you voted for either team that it means anything and absolutely nothing can be deduced from it - it
Except that an Individual is prepared to forsake their own National side for a monetary(virtual) reward.


NT you're confusing sporting competitions with real life.

And in which life do these competitions acyually take place then? All real word actions I am afraid including who and how you choose to support them.


please define what makes someone australian then you can slearly define what is unaustralian.


Lets just start and say that supporting the opposition would NOT be included in the definition of Australian. I will let you have this as your own little project, you can pm me for inspiration whenever you get bogged down.

[Eberbachl]

Never did I say or imply such a thing. Guilty conscience

Oh no, I beg to differ. The implication was most certainly there, and you know it.

Guilty conscience? I think not :rolleyes: Try harder.

...and 2Dogs...piss off :p :rofl:

[andrewf87]

I still believe that the integration of the video ref would fix all problems with decision making. The video from the game last night shows that it wasn't a penalty and that the ref shouldn't have awarded it. There is talk about incorporating vid refs in the next world cup. I think that after this world cup is over, there is going to be much controversy surrounding the refs decision-making. Although Fifa warned everyone that they would be coming down hard on the players, it doesn't give the ref the right to make incorrect decisions. Although, the ref might not know any better...

Not a case of sour grapes, i think that Australia had one of the worst runs with referees right from the first match against Japan. Harry Kewell's reaction demonstrated the frustration of the Australian team clearly. One must ask though, if the introduction of the video ref does happen, will Fifa be happy with the loss of control over the sport? When a foul or penalty occurs, there is no missing it, no more 'actors' among the players, and it definately slims the chance of any 'corrupt' refs...

I totally agree with that, to make the game more fair, it needs to be done. As some much is riding on the results of some of those calls like last nights one which really handed Italy the game, you have to make sure that the calls are correct and not rely on refs who in Australia matches have been pathetic in giving us a fair go.

[New Tricks]

The implication was most certainly there, and you know it.



Here it is

I would find it interesting to look at the votes of those who backed Italy and the'Would you tell someone to walk up' thread. I think I already know the answer on this one.

Never. It proved exactly what I stated and suspected. The numbers are above for you to reread. Deflecting your own personality faults by attempting to state something was said when it was not? You are giving us an excellent profile into your real self here. Do carry on.

[Mike13]

And in which life do these competitions acyually take place then? All real word actions I am afraid including who and how you choose to support them.
Baiting a hook with an over-literal interpretation lol. Try harder.

[primal]

Lets just start and say that supporting the opposition would NOT be included in the definition of Australian. I will let you have this as your own little project, you can pm me for inspiration whenever you get bogged down.

i would beg to differ. however i do not want to quantify what is "Australian" as the notion of "Australian" is about as vague as ...well.. you really.

so rather then let you handball this work off to me. I asked YOU a question. YOU have no answer. yet YOU seem to know what is "Australian".
So as you are the only one carrying on like a pork chop and calling every one else "UnAustralian" you can answer me and tell me what is Australian. Don't give me a bull**** answer like

"well betting on the other team is UnAustralian"


Give me a real answer, or are you incapable of using that so called grey matter in between your ears called a brain. Don't bother answering that question it was rhetorical

[Hannah]

Lets just start and say that supporting the opposition would NOT be included in the definition of Australian.

Actually, if we are talking in terms of actual traditional popular notions of Australian then Australians would vote for the under-dog rather than going for nationalistic dogmatism. Admittedly in this case, depending on who you ask, those two coincided but nevertheless, a highly inaccurate statement.

[New Tricks]

i would beg to differ.


Are you telling me that it is Australian to support the opposition?

[New Tricks]

Actually, if we are talking in terms of actual traditional popular notions of Australian then Australians would vote for the under-dog rather than going for nationalistic dogmatism.

So by your definition, those who supported Italy are UnAustralian. Your words, not mine. Do we see a trend forming here?

[primal]

Are you telling me that it is Australian to support the opposition?

No. I beg to differ that its UnAustralian. Now run along little one and write up your essay on what constitutes australian.

When your done submit it here, or perhaps submit it to our government.

They have the same problem as you. Its a condition called "waving-the-finger-of-unaustralianism-at-anything-you-personally-feel-you-dont-agree-with-without-understanding-what-the-term-australian-is"

So sharpen you 2b and get out your note pad NT. time to do something new.... thinking.

[Hannah]

So by your definition, those who supported Italy are UnAustralian. Your words, not mine. Do we see a trend forming here?

As I said previously, these two factors were coincidence, hypothetical, transitory whatever you would like to say. Yes, I see your point, but your point is flawed because you were making it on a completely incorrect premise. You suck at logic, your argument has failed in a number of very incredible ways. All you are showing is a fantastic aptitude for dogmatism - something which someone may assert is very 'Nazi-like'. Also, as logic does not appear to be your strong point, some-one might be able to assert that you are not very masculine.

The point I am making here is that anyone can make irrelevant and incorrect assertions (by which I am making it clear that I am neither calling you a Nazi nor un-masculine as that would be, in itself, ridiculous as I do not have any reason to believe that either of these are true). Unfortunately for you, your points are both irrelevant and nothing more than incorrect assertions. Give up.

[Eberbachl]

Here it is



Never. It proved exactly what I stated and suspected. The numbers are above for you to reread. Deflecting your own personality faults by attempting to state something was said when it was not? You are giving us an excellent profile into your real self here. Do carry on.

Mmmm... Like I said. Try Harder.

[Eberbachl]

No. I beg to differ that its UnAustralian. Now run along little one and write up your essay on what constitutes australian.

When your done submit it here, or perhaps submit it to our government.

They have the same problem as you. Its a condition called "waving-the-finger-of-unaustralianism-at-anything-you-personally-feel-you-dont-agree-with-without-understanding-what-the-term-australian-is"

So sharpen you 2b and get out your note pad NT. time to do something new.... thinking.

Damn it Primal!

That was downright UnAustralian of you!

:rofl:

I'm going to report this to Ray Martin so he can show everybody what a tough little Aussie Battler NT really is.

[Zoe]

I really object to being labelled Unaustralian. I bet against the Socceroos because I thought the team had too many wogs in it. I now have reason to believe from a very reliable source that the Italian team was, in fact, full of wogs. I don

[Hannah]

I really object to being labelled Unaustralian. I bet against the Socceroos because I thought the team had too many wogs in it. I now have reason to believe from a very reliable source that the Italian team was, in fact, full of wogs. I don’t know how this escaped my attention, but had I known earlier, I would’ve changed my bet. Yes I may have made a mistake, but my heart was in the right place.

:rofl: I think that just about sums things up ;)

[New Tricks]

haha. Zoe.

The rest of you have a very unfortunate case of the 'I said it is so so it is so' bug. You make me laugh. Hah Hah Hah.


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What has been gathered here is that things are often not what they seem until mouths are opened. Well we knew one thing prior to this but I'll let you work that one out.

Off to work.

[primal]

:roll:

[Eberbachl]

The rest of you have a very unfortunate case of the 'I said it is so so it is so' bug.

:rofl:

...who has that bug again?

Open your eyes dufus.

:rofl:

[The One]

It's times like these I must wonder how much money the betting agencies earn of people like New Tricks...

I really don't see how betting on your team in a virtual bet on an archery-based forum is going to affect your team, and somehow derail their chances...

Would it be very Australian of you to bet your entire property and belongings on the sucess of one of your national teams?

[Eberbachl]

Would it be very Australian of you to bet your entire property and belongings on the sucess of one of your national teams?

Yes, then you would be very Australian indeed!

More Australian, than even ... well ... a very Australian thing!

:D

[Hannah]

Well we knew one thing prior to this but I'll let you work that one out.

Ooh, ooh, I've got it - that there would be some winners and some losers (pun was unintended ;))

[primal]

Ooh, ooh, I've got it - that there would be some winners and some losers (pun was unintended ;))
:rofl:

[Ed]

Stayed up until 3.00 a.m. and lost everything!

[Hannah]

Stayed up until 3.00 a.m. and lost everything!

DAMN - :morning:

I only lost my previous winnings ... puts me square back where I started *sigh*

[Liam]

Stayed up until 3.00 a.m. and lost everything!

me too!

I'm extremely unaustralian, I mean, sport is absolutely, postively, everything there is in life right? Where I bet my play money is clearly the defining characteristics of my personality...

[Cartz]

I think how 'Australian' we are really affects the way that we see and react to the game. The Australian way truly surrounds a concept of egalitarianism. This sense of a 'fair go' that the Australian team brought into the world cup was clearly and definately not shared throughout the European and South American nations that have dominated the sport since the beginning of competition. Could it be that the sport or the players themselves have become so big of themselves as to not let in any more foreign competition in?

Not that Australia's notions of egalitarianism are negative in any way, it just seems that many of the Australian spectators brought this aspect into the sport expecting to recieve it in return, which, didn't occur. Could this be the root of the reason why Soccer (football) isn't seen as the world's largest sport in Australia, even though facts state that it is? Are the Australian people ignoring other aspects of their international identity, such as putting up a fight?

Take a look at our team, it's composed of pretty much NO pure born and bred Australians. They play for overseas clubs. Why? Because there is absolutely no room for growth of the sport in the Australian culture. Yes, we dominate many other sports, rugby, cricket, swimming etc. But not the biggest sport... if we really want to demonstrate our international ability in sport, we must be the best of the best...the 'Top Guns' of the sporting world, one could say. I believe that this world cup will only bring about good things in Australian Soccer and might possibly spark the growth that is needed to skyrocket this country into it's peak of sporting ability.

[Hannah]

I think how 'Australian' we are really affects the way that we see and react to the game. The Australian way truly surrounds a concept of egalitarianism. This sense of a 'fair go' that the Australian team brought into the world cup was clearly and definately not shared throughout the European and South American nations that have dominated the sport since the beginning of competition. Could it be that the sport or the players themselves have become so big of themselves as to not let in any more foreign competition in?

Not that Australia's notions of egalitarianism are negative in any way, it just seems that many of the Australian spectators brought this aspect into the sport expecting to recieve it in return, which, didn't occur. Could this be the root of the reason why Soccer (football) isn't seen as the world's largest sport in Australia, even though facts state that it is? Are the Australian people ignoring other aspects of their international identity, such as putting up a fight?

Take a look at our team, it's composed of pretty much NO pure born and bred Australians. They play for overseas clubs. Why? Because there is absolutely no room for growth of the sport in the Australian culture. Yes, we dominate many other sports, rugby, cricket, swimming etc. But not the biggest sport... if we really want to demonstrate our international ability in sport, we must be the best of the best...the 'Top Guns' of the sporting world, one could say. I believe that this world cup will only bring about good things in Australian Soccer and might possibly spark the growth that is needed to skyrocket this country into it's peak of sporting ability.

Why is it that most of us 'Australians' cling to 'our' sport so much? Why does it become the be all and end all of most of our existences whether we reach a "peak of sporting ability"? Why does it matter to most of us so much? These, I feel, are the more pertinent questions. I think it has to do less with egalitarianism and more a general sense of inferiority to the rest of the world because 'us' being 'convicts' gets constantly rubbed in 'our' faces. Maybe it is the only area we feel we cannot be told what to do...let's face it, nearly every other aspect is governed externally to Australia anyway.

Having said that, I agree that Australia making it as far as they did, certainly may increase interest and players in this sport - which can only be good.

[Marcus]

Take a look at our team, it's composed of pretty much NO pure born and bred Australians. They play for overseas clubs. Why?
Cause soccer is gay!

Which is also my answer to every post in this thread.

[StevenB]

Cause soccer is gay!

Which is also my answer to every post in this thread.

and then?

[Cartz]

Cause soccer is gay!

Which is also my answer to every post in this thread.


Cheers for being a prime example for my post ;)

[Progen]

Stayed up until 3.00 a.m. and lost everything!

Don't feel bad about it, Liam's in the same boat as you.

Let me use some of my ill gotten gains to buy you two a few beers.

I ain't Australian (although I've been there twice) so I hope New Tricks ain't going to jump on me for betting on Italy. :-D

As many others have pointed out, Australia is not ready to hold the World Cup yet. It's already an honour to qualify. Lots of folks from other countries (including some Australians), have taken digs at me and asked how's Malaysia faring in the World Cup. I told them we can't lose ;) (because we're not in it). :-D

Anyway, if supporting Australia DESPITE having a BAD FEELING that Italy stands a better chance of winning, means one is a patriotic Australian, then you guys need to find another little island to place all these patriots. They're not going to get past one generation. :-)

People bet to win, New Tricks, not to show their patriotism. Simple, isn't it?

[The One]

Yes, we dominate many other sports, rugby...

Like hell you do! ;)

[Nathan]

what happens if you run out of vCash. Do we get more every month or what?

[Progen]

what happens if you run out of vCash....

My application to be a licensed vCash lender is still being processed. :p

[CMB50]

My application to be a licensed vCash lender is still being processed. :p


Application denied. :cool:

[CMB50]

:deadhorse:

This pony was well and truly flogged 4 pages ago but since I haven't given it a lashing yet it's still fair game.


I would find it interesting to look at the votes of those who backed Italy and the'Would you tell someone to walk up' thread. I think I already know the answer on this one.

I don't want anyone casting vague assumptions about where I stand, so here are the facts:

I bet on Italy and I won.
I bet on a Draw and i lost.
I bet on Australia and I lost.
I voted 'no. i wouldn't tell someone to walk up' and i stand by it.
I voted Liberal and i lost.
This is a game and i won.


This is a game, on an archery forum. Despite what some are suggesting it is not a test of ones patriotism or character.

I'm looking forward to continuing to play with the vbookie feature on Archery-Forum and using common sense and reason to decide what I will bet on rather that throwing my vcash on patriotic or idealistic option that will yield no result.

I'm also looking forward to spreading my Reputation points around. Both + and -

[StevenB]

doesn't matter who you bet on, hell I only put my money down cause I'm Australian and will back us in any sport we compete in, like when we hand NZ there arse in bowls

And I also wouldn't tell someone to walk up, especially if it meant I would win the shoot.

[frommy]

I have been following this crap on this thread all day.

I bet on Italy to win by 1 goal. I won.

My heart and my patriotism will always remain with Australia, but my wallet and brain are disconnected from that process. Emotions and realistic expectations need to be well seperated when betting, even in eMoney.

The Socceroos did BLOODY well, and let nobody forget it. Congratulations to them all. Well done indeed.

Brian

[StevenB]

I intend to do the only thing that is left in this world cup to be Australian,

get pissed and back Ukraine to beat the Wogs :D

[Progen]

Application denied. :cool:


I'll share half of what I have with you? ;)


I intend to do the only thing that is left in this world cup to be Australian, ...

Different continent? Or is this something only folks from Down Under would know? :confused: :grin:

[StevenB]

mmmm abuse of power :D

[Clare Barnes]

I don't want anyone casting vague assumptions about where I stand, so here are the facts:

I bet on Italy and I won.
Me too :D

I bet on a Draw and i lost.
Nup

I bet on Australia and I lost.
Yep :(

I voted 'no. i wouldn't tell someone to walk up' and i stand by it..
Yep 100%

I voted Liberal and i lost.
Nup, invalid was preferred over Liberal.;)

This is a game and i won.
Yep :D

I'm also looking forward to spreading my Reputation points around. Both + and -
Bugger, why can't we all be allowed to add -ve ones! :(

[StevenB]

Bugger, why can't we all be allowed to add -ve ones! :(


Cause every one on here knows New Tricks is a tool already, the -ve rep you would give him would thus be redundant;)

[Eberbachl]

I'll share half of what I have with you? ;)






Dude...you just don't get it.

Us Administrators can top up our vCash accounts at will.

:rofl:

:p

[Progen]

:( :( Dude...you just don't get it.

Us Administrators can top up our vCash accounts at will.

:rofl:

:p

That's not fair, ain't it? :mad: :confused: :eek: :(

[The One]

like when we hand NZ there arse in bowls

Bowls you can have :p

[Eberbachl]

:( :(

That's not fair, ain't it? :mad: :confused: :eek: :(

:rofl:

Sucked in :p

:D

[Hannah]

I'm also looking forward to spreading my Reputation points around. Both + and -

Could you 'spread' some positive ones my way? I am considering starting a post to give me more points...figure that is the only (far from ethical) way ;)

[Milkovitsch]

I intend to do the only thing that is left in this world cup to be Australian,

get pissed and back Ukraine to beat the Wogs :D

I find your term offensive, just as I am dismayed that the Admin has not edited it. Perhaps it was not noticed?

Australia lost because the Italian soccer team is better than the Australian soccer team.

[Marcus]

Perhaps Admin and Mods have no idea what offends you and what doesn't. :rolleyes:
Please write letters of complaints to all the comedy shows out there first and then we'll delete it.

[Hannah]

I find your term offensive, just as I am dismayed that the Admin has not edited it. Perhaps it was not noticed?

Australia lost because the Italian soccer team is better than the Australian soccer team.

Milkovitsch, in an already heated thread, perhaps PM'ing an admin might have been better? I understand your point of view, but given the nature of the thread could it be possible that StevenB was being slightly sarcastic? Further, as I understand it (and I am not taking sides) but the decision in the Italy v Australia match was highly contentious...I don't believe the outcome of the game is as clear-cut as that - this post is likely (but hopefully not) to start up another rant by someone else on here...

(maybe I have just proved that last point :lol:)

[Hannah]

Perhaps Admin and Mods have no idea what offends you and what doesn't. :rolleyes:
Please write letters of complaints to all the comedy shows out there first and then we'll delete it.

Damn getting distracted by work half-way through a post and getting beaten by someone else!!!!! :)

[New Tricks]

http://users.on.net/~billt/italianjob.gif

[Milkovitsch]

Hannah,

Thank you for your comments and I agree with you regarding the outcome of the match, not clear cut, that's the way these things go. I am sure StevenB was not being malicious, however anyone in Australia shoudl know better.

Regarding using Private Messages, may I remind Marcus that a while ago there was a controversy re some cartoons that certain people found highly offensive - a cartoon that a a Forum member was using as an Avatar? I sent you a PM about it, but you did nothing. So I expect sending you PMs is pretty useless.

The comment by StevenB was public, so it is not inappropriate that I comment publicly. And Marcus, you can play word games all you like but you know full well which part of the comment is offensive. If you take your cue from comedy shows then you're a goose. Perhaps a letter from the anti-discimination council will point you in the right direction.

[Progen]

:behindsofa: War is imminent.

[Hannah]

:behindsofa: War is imminent.

:beer_drink: Here's to backing away slowly

[Marcus]

Perhaps a letter from the anti-discimination council will point you in the right direction.
I consider that a threat. Goodbye.

[StevenB]

Perhaps a letter from the anti-discimination council will point you in the right direction.


what would those "skippy poofs" know, also not to be sexsist, but you might want to send one to Zoe as well.

[QUOTE=Zoe]I really object to being labelled Unaustralian. I bet against the Socceroos because I thought the team had too many wogs in it. I now have reason to believe from a very reliable source that the Italian team was, in fact, full of wogs. I don

[2Dogs]

:rofl:

Goodbye....

2Dogs Sympathy (http://users.on.net/~pmalynn/images/Archery/haha.wav)

[Flex]

I miss the pound never used it much .But seems a few great pound moments have been missed;)

[Stace]

This thread has turned into something far more exciting than the actual game now!!

As a non-Australian, I voted Italy to win because I wanted to win vCash maybe those that have been tagged 'UnAustralian" did the same. Not an entirely UnAustralian thing to want to win is it? Lol.

As for the term 'wog', you'd be in jail for using such a term over here! Brilliant.

I want to move to Australia, I think.

[The One]

From Wikipedia:

"Wog is also a slang term in Australian English, denoting non-Anglo-Celtic Australians, usually people of Southern European Mediterranean ancestries....Wog is a word with definite and widespread currency in contemporary Australian English, and for the most part it is rarely considered to be the sort of slur or insult that it remains in other parts of the Anglosphere."

[Stace]

From Wikipedia:

"Wog is also a slang term in Australian English, denoting non-Anglo-Celtic Australians, usually people of Southern European Mediterranean ancestries....Wog is a word with definite and widespread currency in contemporary Australian English, and for the most part it is rarely considered to be the sort of slur or insult that it remains in other parts of the Anglosphere."

Nice selective copy and pasting there, the British English meaning means something quite different.

[StevenB]

no one cares about the british meaning :p

[The One]

Nice selective copy and pasting there, the British English meaning means something quite different.

I know, but it amuses me sometimes that people automatically assume that an ambiguous word is used in the worst of two possible ways, and attack the use of it, even if it wasn't intended to be used in a certain way. :cool:

[Brocky]

You must remember that he is a Kiwi so the British english meaning means nothing ;)

[Stace]

I wasn't attacking the use of it in the slightest, just amused to see it being used is all.

Unfortunately, the absence of smilies prevent me showing the nature of my post :D