Jnr Nats 2007 Not Just For Jnrs

[Tegs]

What do you all think about the snrs and jnrs at thge same time, because som eof the snrs donbt like little annoying shooters as they call it, but i heard and soem one from wa say that If the jnrs cant have a nats why shou;ld we because they are the star of tomorrow,. I AGREE

[Marcus]

I would much rather the Jr Nats were seperate so that they get the attention they deserve.
I'm disappointed that AA gave the Nats to WA instead of addressing the problems that were preventing other states holding the event. :mad:
At least 3 states expressed interest in running it with a modified format.

[Tegs]

i TOTALY agree with you Marcus:D

[Brocky]

I'm wondering what will happen with accommodation/ flights and how that will effect archers attending.

[Tegs]

What do you mean Brocky by the flights an stuff?

[Brocky]

I can understand that question with you being from WA, the wright brothers have just been discovered by you lot;)

[Ja]

id prefer if the jnrs and snrs were seperate but its better than not having a jnrs at all

[Cartz]

Yeah, wasn't too happy with it when it first got decided that Jnrs and Snrs would be on at the same time. However, WA does have the facilities for it and it would be great to see them utilised. I didn't like the fact that they took out the clout day in the middle though...now those Jnrs who are competing in both must do four Fitas in four days...could be worse, not complaining, just stating....

I agree totally with Marcus that the Snrs will take more recognition than the Jnrs...but what would be good to see is the length of the medal presentations. How many divisions will there be all up?

In all, it did save money for those doing both in terms of travel...but in truth, what will be talked about more at the time? Snrs or Jnrs? Ja is very correct in saying that it is better than NOT having a Jnr Nats. However, other states did agree to running it i believe.

[Sandy Hancock]

I think holding the Nationals together is fantastic. I can go away with my Under 14 (sorry "Intermediate" - who decided to use stupid names like Cub and Veteran rather than age groups which actually tell you what was going on?) daughter and share the experience of a Nationals without booking two big trips in the same year. I hope it goes really well.

Under 18's (and over 50's for that matter) who believe they need their own category should question why they compete at all. Two thirds of our mens team at Athens were juniors. At least two juniors (and probably a Master or two) outscored me at the recent state indoor, and yet I am supposedly the open mens champion, despite shooting very poorly. What a joke.

The more I think about it, perhaps the juniors who outscored me only shot as juniors because they thought Barnzy was turning up....

[Pinky]

I can understand that question with you being from WA, the wright brothers have just been discovered by you lot;)

Actually Brocky we WAites are far more familiar with air travel to the nationals than many Eastern States shooters. We almost always have to pay high air fares to attend nationals in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane (to name the most recent holders) but the minute it is held in WA, *some* people start screaming about low attendance due to having to travel too far. Well diddums :p

[Cartz]

Pinky has a point...however, what would be the estimate of people in attendance with both the Juniors and the Seniors combined? Would there be enough accomodation?

[Archangel]

Pinky has a point...however, what would be the estimate of people in attendance with both the Juniors and the Seniors combined? Would there be enough accomodation?
Of course Perth won't be able to cope with the huge numbers attending the event ;-)

[ULTRAPROELITE]

I would much rather the Jr Nats were seperate so that they get the attention they deserve.
I'm disappointed that AA gave the Nats to WA instead of addressing the problems that were preventing other states holding the event. :mad:
At least 3 states expressed interest in running it with a modified format.

with all due respect, im completely aware you run the show on this forum and im aware you run the Urban Archery show as well and im not disrespecting in any way, .....but really how dissapointed were you that the Nats was being held in WA? and would it really help Erika Anear shoot better than she did if the 3 states did run it with a modified format........."modified format"..hmmm
not being a smart-ass at all...but what does that mean?

[ULTRAPROELITE]

i TOTALY agree with you Marcus:D

i see a pattern here :confused:

[archerybob]

ok i dont really care so much about them being at the same time, i think the real issue is the format. we need to get in line with the rest of the world when it comes to national championships, here the matchplay is a second thought. a single fita over two days, and give the matchplay the bulk of our attention just like it recieves in the rest of the world. field should have unmarked, get rid of that stupid clout..................now thats all i have to say about that (says in stupid voice)

[Marcus]

I wasn't disappointed at all tht the Sr Nats are being run in WA They bid and won it. Erika will be there and will have as much chance of winning as any other shooter competing. That location won't make much difference to her.

I am disappointed that AA just gave the JUNIOR NATIONALS event to WA when they know that the event needs fixing. WA hosting the Juniors is a short term band aid to a major problem and delays the addressing of it yet again.

The Junior Nationals format is a disaster and needs fixing ASAP.


with all due respect, im completely aware you run the show on this forum and im aware you run the Urban Archery show as well and im not disrespecting in any way, .....but really how dissapointed were you that the Nats was being held in WA? and would it really help Erika Anear shoot better than she did if the 3 states did run it with a modified format........."modified format"..hmmm
not being a smart-ass at all...but what does that mean?

[ULTRAPROELITE]

thanks for explaining, i understand that now......

[Tegs]

Sandy Hancook i can understand you there booking two large archerey holidays could be quite annoying not to talk aboyut the cost.

[Ja]

the snrs will be used to determine world championship teams next year wont they?

[The One]

I reckon it's too big an event to run together...

[Cartz]

we could run the target the same way as the indoor... :p

[Tegs]

What do you mean by "i see a pattern here"? ULTRAPROELITE

Jnrs might be shooting field while the elders shoot target thats how it's ran, becasue there just isn't enough space evern if we do details.

[Cartz]

why not eliminate field all together? have a separate nationals for it? I know the lack of attendance would be a problem...but it would save some time and organisation

[Brocky]

By jingers PINKY DID I MENTION THE COST OF AIR TRAVEL, NO WHO'S WORRIED ABOUT the cost of TRAVEL you and Tegs should get together and once together both of you acting as one may understand the question.

Like everyone else out side WA Cartz has hit the nail on the head.:thumb: Which is lucky he is hitting a nail and not your head as it would demage the hammer.

Let me spell it out for you is there going to be a problem with flights to WA and accommodation.:rolleyes:

If there is a problem with accommodation can I stay at your place, come to think of it everyone who cant get accommodation contact Pinky.

[Cartz]

Hmmm how many flights are there to Perth in a day from the more populated cities in Australia around the same time as the Nats (easter holidays) ? Max 5 to 6...thats filled with other passengers as well...

I'd say that it'd be a bit of a bullrush for tickets around that time. Just hope that i won't have to be paying for accommodation any more days than i have to.

[Ja]

depends how many days before the nats you leave, there should be enough space, if not you can drive :D

as for accomadation, im pretty sure you'd be able to find somewhere to stay in perth.

[Cartz]

depends how many days before the nats you leave

Like i said, paying for accommodation more than i need is kinda useless....

[Brocky]

We are starting to get the picture hey Cartz you have to repeat yourself twice for them to understand :rolleyes:

[Tegs]

I'm sure not to many archery people will be satying at the Bussword (only the most coolest and expensive hotel in WA).
But Brocky if i had a spare room in my house i would let you stay rofl

[Pinky]

By jingers PINKY DID I MENTION THE COST OF AIR TRAVEL, NO WHO'S WORRIED ABOUT the cost of TRAVEL you and Tegs should get together and once together both of you acting as one may understand the question.

Like everyone else out side WA Cartz has hit the nail on the head.:thumb: Which is lucky he is hitting a nail and not your head as it would demage the hammer.

Let me spell it out for you is there going to be a problem with flights to WA and accommodation.:rolleyes:

If there is a problem with accommodation can I stay at your place, come to think of it everyone who cant get accommodation contact Pinky.

Brocky, if you're not complaining about the cost then I fail to see your point. Are you suggesting that we don't know what a hotel, motel or caravan park is(are)? Are you suggesting we don't get aeroplanes here in WA? Please explain your position clearly.

If you notice, I have responded to your post without personal insults. Perhaps if you adopt the same approach, I would accept Gumby's contention that you're an alright bloke.

[Chris Madeley]

Pinky and my other fellow west aussies,

Nobody asks us to travel over east every year and questions us if we don't, so why should we question them if they choose not to go? I don't see how it should matter to us whether they choose to come or not. I really don't see this being worth an arguement.

[Zoe]

Hmmm how many flights are there to Perth in a day from the more populated cities in Australia around the same time as the Nats (easter holidays) ? Max 5 to 6...thats filled with other passengers as well...

I'd say that it'd be a bit of a bullrush for tickets around that time. Just hope that i won't have to be paying for accommodation any more days than i have to.

The day before the Nationals there are 20 Qantas flights and 13 Virgin Blue flights from Brisbane to Perth, none of which are full as yet. I think you'll be right.
However, the two motels in town are filling up fast.

[Betty-Anne]

Its great that the Juniors are on at the same time as the Seniors. 2 Dogs will have loads of juniors to pick on :)

[Brocky]

Pinky with the way Perth is set out I'm sure that accomodation close to the venue with be taken up pretty quickly with both the juniors and seniors combined. Cost seems to be an issue with you as I said before lucky its a nail.

Chris not an arguement just pionting something out. Maybe a suggestion list of appropiate cabbin parks/ caravan parks close to the venue would help people out as the Victorians done last year Allowing plans to be made.

[Cartz]

But Brocky if i had a spare room in my house i would let you stay rofl

Trust me...you DON'T want Brocky staying at your place :p

Oh yeah, pretty good for me Brocky, usually people need to repeat themselves for us...SLOOOOOOW queenslanders ;)

Oh yeah, by flights i meant, the majority will be booked out via other passengers...plus, i only counted those within 'reasonable' waking up times...no rest for the wicked these days. There may be 20 Qantas flights, yes, but they aren't all during the day. But that aside, i stand corrected....

Either way, i've voiced my opinion, no need to agree with it. Still think there won't be much emphasis from the senior's behalf on the junior competition. Due to the fact that some of our juniors are thrashing the seniors, they might even purposely not place any attention on the junior side of the nats. Which is sad seeing as it's where the future of the sport lies...

[Zoe]

Chris not an arguement just pionting something out. Maybe a suggestion list of appropiate cabbin parks/ caravan parks close to the venue would help people out as the Victorians done last year Allowing plans to be made.

http://www.2007opennationals.archerywa.com.au/ under "Traveller's Information"

[Tegs]

Unlike every other club, WA's Whitemen Park archery grounds can fit clout.

[Clare Barnes]

It could still be okay despite such problems... :D