New Tricks banned...?

[Glenn Ryan]

I heard this rumour that he was banned...is this true and if so, why????

[StevenB]

yes he is it seems

[Glenn Ryan]

Ok, that's the first part of the question answered. The second part - why?

[Marcus]

NT was in a dispute with another admin and wouldn't drop it. The administrator suspended him for 2 weeks. He will be allowed back on soon I would think.

[Glenn Ryan]

If he was in dispute with another Admin (admin's should be above all things else they shouldn't be an admin and should not respond to personal issues with a personal response), that's between the 2 - nothing to do with the board, ergo should not be banned.........

[wareagle]

His names not on the list ?

[Glenn Ryan]

Also, it still leaves the second part begging...why?????

[Marcus]

Why are admin the only ones suppose to be above argueing with others when admin are the ones attacked the most?
The administrator told him to drop it, he didn't, he was suspended.
We have suspended people before for getting into disputes with other members and not dropping it, it isn't being a double standard.

The issue is between NT and that administrator. I won't be giving details, as I don't in other similar situations.

[Progen]

Also, it still leaves the second part begging...why?????

I think they got sick of the head banging girls he used as his avatar. :D

And you did have a point earlier. If it was personal and not something of a publicly offensive nature, then it wouldn't be fair, would it?

Then again, it's also their prerogative and Tricksie would just have to grin and bear it. :(

[Cartz]

NT is gooooooooooone!






For now...

[Glenn Ryan]

Marcus, I wouldn't expect you too either (ethics) - the question was towards the Admin in question.

However, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce the following:

1. Admin - CMB50
2. Animosity started with the "un-sportsman like" comment in relation to the field walkup thread as far as memory serves.
3. Assuming the above, it proves the point...someone who knows tell me I'm wrong..............

[Marcus]

The ban list is at the bottom of this page
http://www.archery-forum.com/showgroups.php

it's also their prerogative and Tricksie would just have to grin and bear it.
No it was the perogative of that administrator and the rest of the admin team support his decision.

Some people may not think it's fair, but mess with admin and that's the risk you take. It's like driving around with a sticker on your car saying 'Cops are Pigs' and then complaining if they pick on you.

We still ban less people than most forums and regular contributors get plenty of warnings.

[ninevalleys]

yup!

the admin are fairly lenient, i myslef have argued with them more than once, and have been given a few warnings. it does take a hell of a lot to get kicked, casue i thought i would have been banned by now.. so yeah, if you do hassle peopel enough to get kicked then you have deserved it!

cheersNV

[Cartz]

The rules are there for a reason, this forum is a privilege and it can be taken away if the rules aren't followed. Just deal with it and get on, it's not like they're asking much of you. I think before anyone argues with them, they should step back and have a look at what the admins HAVE done for you. If you continue to argue, you deserve to be slapped with a big fish...

[BeefeaterBBQ]

the admin are fairly lenient, i myslef have argued with them more than once, and have been given a few warnings. it does take a hell of a lot to get kicked, casue i thought i would have been banned by now.. so yeah, if you do hassle peopel enough to get kicked then you have deserved it!

Can you PLEASE try harassing them one more time?

[Progen]

That'd be pushing it too far, Beefie. :p

[Glenn Ryan]

NV, when you grow up and learn correct grammar, punctuation, sentence contruction techniques and provide intelligent discourse, by all means, converse with us - until then shhhhhh - the adults are talking.

but mess with admin and that's the risk you take

Dictatorial to say the least. I fervently hope no admin here owns a bookstore, otherwise, we will see a repeat of the 1930's and 40's and the book burning nazis. Also this reflects on what I said earlier - if it's personal, then admin people should ignore it as part of their professional ethics.

It's like driving around with a sticker on your car saying 'Cops are Pigs' and then complaining if they pick on you

Totally different - the law is on the car drivers side as he hasn't broken the law - it's a point of view. It may not be agreed with, but....


Hypothetically, let's say I was Dave Cousins and had a major personal issue with an admin on this forum...would you ban me taking into consideration the information I could impart onto the forum.....begs the question doesn't it?

[Hannah]

The rules are there for a reason, this forum is a privilege and it can be taken away if the rules aren't followed. Just deal with it and get on, it's not like they're asking much of you. I think before anyone argues with them, they should step back and have a look at what the admins HAVE done for you. If you continue to argue, you deserve to be slapped with a big fish...

I vote more big fish!!! :rofl:

[Glenn Ryan]

this forum is a privilege

What a load of bollocks - forums DO NOT EXIST without their MEMBERS.

[2Dogs]

Hypothetically, let's say I was Dave Cousins and had a major personal issue with an admin on this forum...would you ban me taking into consideration the information I could impart onto the forum....

Faster then you can say "Primal" :D

[2Dogs]

10..

[OldDog]

NV, when you grow up and learn correct grammar, punctuation, sentence contruction techniques and provide intelligent discourse, by all means, converse with us - until then shhhhhh - the adults are talking.



Dictatorial to say the least. I fervently hope no admin here owns a bookstore, otherwise, we will see a repeat of the 1930's and 40's and the book burning nazis. Also this reflects on what I said earlier - if it's personal, then admin people should ignore it as part of their professional ethics.



Totally different - the law is on the car drivers side as he hasn't broken the law - it's a point of view. It may not be agreed with, but....


Hypothetically, let's say I was Dave Cousins and had a major personal issue with an admin on this forum...would you ban me taking into consideration the information I could impart onto the forum.....begs the question doesn't it?
Ryan you toassa. reputation holds no credence here. We threw cuz out years ago.:rofl:

[Cartz]

What a load of bollocks - forums DO NOT EXIST without their MEMBERS.

You wanna leave? Go ahead :)

[Glenn Ryan]

Took your time ;)

[2Dogs]

9..

[Glenn Ryan]

You wanna leave? Go ahead

Totally misread and misunderstood fool.

[OldDog]

8...

[Cartz]

Totally misread and misunderstood fool.

:thumb:

[Glenn Ryan]

Counting down by fingers or toes lads? :D

[OldDog]

yawn

[2Dogs]

OD's counting Rollies per minute :D

[Glenn Ryan]

Ryan you toassa

Porch mutt - blow me :fist: :)

[Hannah]

Dictatorial to say the least. I fervently hope no admin here owns a bookstore, otherwise, we will see a repeat of the 1930's and 40's and the book burning nazis. Also this reflects on what I said earlier - if it's personal, then admin people should ignore it as part of their professional ethics.

I HATE to break in on an 'adult' conversation (personally I feel that NV's contribution was accurate...) but honestly, do you really believe that anyone in this day and age has ethics? Have you not been reading/watching the news recently? Besides ethics are a matter of opinion and as such are not objective but completely subjective...bringing them into a matter like this is irrelevant and unnecessary...and with a little luck we will have MORE BIG FISH!!!

[Glenn Ryan]

Damn! I've been yawned! :rofl:

[2Dogs]

Ryan lives in a cupboard under the stairs ;)

[Cartz]

So does Harry Potter!!!

[2Dogs]

No ****! :D

[StevenB]

burn the forum

[Cartz]

No ****! :D

:rofl:

[2Dogs]

Burn Olddog :D

[OldDog]

7...

[Glenn Ryan]

but honestly, do you really believe that anyone in this day and age has ethics

I certainly hope so because I do.

Besides ethics are a matter of opinion and as such are not objective but completely subjective

Disagree - ethics are a matter of standard.

[Cartz]

:pirate:

[StevenB]

and then?

[Progen]

So does Harry Potter!!!

And see where that got Harry? We'd best be on our guard then. :o

Anyway, both sides have made valid arguments.

If it's personal, it's personal and should be kept private and personal (Hat trick!!! :D ). Unless of course some bitching was done in public.

Then again, this is their turf, they offered it to us for free and it's their right to take that errr, privilege away.

[OldDog]

6...and then?

[Marcus]

I certainly hope so because I do.



Disagree - ethics are a matter of standard.
My ethics standards are different to yours making your ethics non-valid in my opinion making you wrong.
Oh well.

[StevenB]

:pirate:


not quite enough


http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/obese_hacker.jpg

[Progen]

That really threw things off track! Yucks, StevenB!

[StevenB]

now was that ethical of me to post that pic? Discuss.

[Jason.P]

not quite enough


http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/obese_hacker.jpg

:puke:

[Marcus]

Your ethics suck StevenB, I suspect you are a Nazi.

[Progen]

Ethics, be they negative or positive, ARE and WILL always be subjective to oneself. Subjective to one's upbringing, race, nationality, society's conventions, friends, etc. The list goes on.

ps. That was VERY unethical of you, StevenB and it sure was a thread hijack. Perhaps the most abrupt one in Archery Forum history.

[Nathan]

Steven i think that was REALLY unnecessary

also could offend/disgust members

[OldDog]

Neat pic bman. did you use a tripod or did your mrs take it for you.:p

[Marcus]

Neat pic bman. did you use a tripod or did your mrs take it for you.:p
:rofl:

[StevenB]

Your ethics suck StevenB, I suspect you are a Nazi.


I only burn books to heat the house, I promise

[Liam]

Oh.

My.

God.

*closes window*

[Marcus]

Yeah that's the excuse I use for burning :censored:

[StevenB]

Neat pic bman. did you use a tripod or did your mrs take it for you.:p


had to open the door and use the long range lense to get me all in the pic, but I have shaved since then

[OldDog]

Your face or your arse.:o :o :p

[Hannah]

now was that ethical of me to post that pic? Discuss.

Man, we could be here for days if you need a discussion on your (lack of) ethics in posting that pic!

[StevenB]

face, I get my arse waxed

[Glenn Ryan]

Ethics - A set of principles of right conduct

In the context of my post.

My ethics standards are different to yours making your ethics non-valid in my opinion making you wrong.
Oh well.

Door swings both ways.

Back to point 3 - somebody tell me I'm wrong in my assumptions at the start of this thread.....

[OldDog]

In the context of my post.



Door swings both ways.

Back to point 3 - somebody tell me I'm wrong in my assumptions at the start of this thread.....
OK. You're wrong

[Marcus]

Back to point 3 - somebody tell me I'm wrong in my assumptions at the start of this thread.....

I heard this rumour that he was banned...is this true and if so, why????
Yes you assumption was correct

[Hannah]

Back to point 3 - somebody tell me I'm wrong in my assumptions at the start of this thread.....

I really have to ask why it matters? I mean, when he returns I am sure there will be an 'archery-forum welcome party' etc...he will be back soon...it will all be okay...

[Progen]

Ethics - A set of principles of right conduct


In the context of my post.

You're painting yourself into a corner there. Next thing thrown will be 'Who's to decide what is right conduct and what is not? Wouldn't the deciding parties make their decision subjective to events and both private and public opinion?

Anyway, I'm sure New Tricks will be touched that he's been missed and that there was a little discussion over it. Perhaps he's out now, shooting his way to that score he claimed he would shoot? :D

[2Dogs]

I certainly hope so because I do.

:rofl: :rofl:

Your nose just grew so much you can't turn right down the hallway!

NT's will NEVER get near that score............... it takes talent :).....and his is <>0 :)

[Zoe]

Next thing thrown will be 'Who's to decide what is right conduct and what is not?

POLL!!

[OldDog]

What are the poll options Zoe.:confused:

[Glenn Ryan]

I really have to ask why it matters?

Start at the beginning of the thread - I'm sure you'll get it...

I really have to ask why it matters? I mean, when he returns


You're kidding right?

[Zoe]

What are the poll options Zoe.:confused:

pick some random AF members, a couple of admins and off ya go OD

[Glenn Ryan]

You're painting yourself into a corner there.

Somebody has to take the moral highground because none around here seem capable of it.

[Marcus]

I think the question of forum ethics is important, and I propose a Ethics sub-committee be established to set the ground rules for such a thing.
I will appoint Mike13 as chair with CMB50 and 2Dogs as committee members and possibly bring andrewc in as an outside consultant.

[OldDog]

pick some random AF members, a couple of admins and off ya go OD
You want MEEEEE to do a poll.:rolleyes:
Heck Zoe it took me 3 years to work out what TTT meant.:p

[recurve boy]

Dictatorial to say the least. I fervently hope no admin here owns a bookstore, otherwise, we will see a repeat of the 1930's and 40's and the book burning nazis. Also this reflects on what I said earlier - if it's personal, then admin people should ignore it as part of their professional ethics.

reductio ad nazium

[Marcus]

"Toss The Turkey"

[2Dogs]

I will appoint Mike13 as chair with CMB50 and 2Dogs as committee members and possibly bring andrewc in as an outside consultant.

the Feng Shui on the Forum just disembowelled itself :rofl:

[Jason.P]

"Toss The Turkey"

We don't need to know what you do inyour spare time

[Marcus]

You should come around for Xmas dinner! :lol:

[Hannah]

Somebody has to take the moral highground because none around here seem capable of it.

Morals and ethics are different, and to take moral high ground would presume that morals were present. As it stands you can't even take the ethical high-ground because ethics are irrelevant. As Progen has so eloquently said on a number of occasions it is entirely up to the admins at to what they do and don't allow to be said and what they do and don't tolerate. Hell ethics do not even come into the UN anymore...because no-one listens! This is the admins' playground...you decide you want to join, you join by their rules.

As to whether or not I was serious, yes I was entirely. I have read this thread from the beginning and in my opinion you have gotten about as much info as you are going to and any more would only be up to whether the admin involved decided to divulge that info...but here's one for ya...wouldn't telling stories about others' misfortune (in this case NT's) be unethical??? I ask again, why does it matter?

[Jason.P]

Thanks. i'll pass on the stuffing

[Liam]

Marcus, I think perhaps you should hand control of the forum over to Glenn - he could obviously do a much better job with his superior morals, and ethics, and all the really important things like that.

[2Dogs]

http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_pictures/grail/large/HolyGrail000.jpg

Hark!....it be the Great White Knight! (Ryan Guy :) ).... Saviour of our Ethics.... the Bastion of good 1280 shooters the world over.

:D

[Progen]

Somebody has to take the moral highground because none around here seem capable of it.

Why don't we just wait for the ban to pass and for Tricksie to come back? He's a young man, he can take a little banning.

This is fast becoming like that Italy vs. Australia thread where things got all out of context. Ironically, Tricksie was pretty involved there too. :D

[Progen]

Marcus, I think perhaps you should hand control of the forum over to Glenn - he could obviously do a much better job with his superior morals, and ethics, and all the really important things like that.

Now that was unethical, Liam. Oops, the E word again. :rolleyes:

[OldDog]

It matters hannah because Glen has paid handsomely via the rentabuddy scheme for the services of New Tricks and is merely protecting his investment.:rofl:

[Marcus]

Thanks. i'll pass on the stuffing
but it's so rich and creamy!

[OldDog]

http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_pictures/grail/large/HolyGrail000.jpg

Hark!....it be the Great White Knight! (Ryan Guy :) ).... Saviour of our Ethics.... the Bastion of good 1280 shooters the world over.

:D
Which one is Glen and which one is tricksy.:o :D

[Jason.P]

but it's so rich and creamy!

:puke:

[Liam]

Now that was unethical, Liam. Oops, the E word again. :rolleyes:

WHY DO YOU GET TO DECIDE WHAT'S ETHICAL AND WHAT'S NOT?! :rolleyes:

[OldDog]

WHY DO YOU GET TO DECIDE WHAT'S ETHICAL AND WHAT'S NOT?! :rolleyes:
Because he has no ethics and therefore can be completely impartial.:rolleyes:

[2Dogs]

He's a young man, he can take a little banning.

Actually NT's is Plazbot on another forum......67,000 posts :o I saw :D

and he's been banned about 20+ times....... Old Hat for him.

The the reason he was banned........... go read the "Start a Game Thread'.... tis all there for public viewing :):)

[Hannah]

Which one is Glen and which one is tricksy.:o :D

According to your previous entry, Glen would have to be the one in the skirt without the bags...otherwise he could not have paid for the rentabuddy :lol:

[Liam]

Actually NT's is Plazbot on another forum......67,000 posts :o I saw :D

and he's been banned about 20+ times....... Old Hat for him.

The the reason he was banned........... go read the "Start a Game Thread'.... tis all there for public viewing :):)

Link Please.

[OldDog]

According to your previous entry, Glen would have to be the one in the skirt without the bags...otherwise he could not have paid for the rentabuddy :lol:
Maybe he is the one in the bags, New tricks dont come cheap ya know.:-D

[Zoe]

Maybe he is the one in the bags, New tricks dont come cheap ya know.:-D
So you're suggesting Glenn's banging his 'nuts together OD?

[2Dogs]

:rofl:

He's a Programmer!....... Nut Banging is a prerequisite

[OldDog]

So you're suggesting Glenn's banging his 'nuts together OD?
:rofl: got me like a roo in the headlights there Zoe.

[Progen]

Because he has no ethics and therefore can be completely impartial.:rolleyes:

;) You know best, OldDog.

[2Dogs]

Link Please.

Plazbot..... Tribes2 Warrior :)

http://www.bittah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=294852J


Jerricho is NT's brother.... check out No of posts :)

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=139165

[Progen]

1,100,666 posts in 3 years!!!!

The administrators are going to be ashamed of themselves. :grin:

[2Dogs]

Now back to ethics

this plazbot master piece

http://www.bittah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14121

Now how come NT's & Andrewc didn't get along???

:rofl:

Too alike? :D

[2Dogs]

One for Primal and Marcus

http://hwpr0n.se/

Unethical of course, but within the bounds of 2Dogs Morality :D

[Marcus]

Nothing like routing a hot chick. :lol:

[Eddie C]

So when will the first line of " Bring Back New Tricks " T Shirts be available for purchase?

[Marcus]

Already at the stores with plenty of these still for sale

[Marcus]

This line however sold out in 2 minutes
:lol:

[Eberbachl]

I heard this rumour that he was banned...is this true and if so, why????

Glenn,

NT was not banned. He was suspended from the forum for two weeks.

He was suspended from the forum due to an issue he had with an admin.

If that issue remained private - in PM's I doubt he would have been suspended.

But, it didn't stay private. NT kept on bringing it up, and up again in public threads, and despite being asked to drop it, he persisted.

As a result he was suspended in the hope that he'll drop it when he gets back.

That's the way it was.

Now you know, I hope you can get over it.

...and if Dave Cousins did the same thing, as per your hypothetical, the same action would be taken.

[Eddie C]

Ill take 3 in xx large thanks.

[Eberbachl]

Ill take 3 in xx large thanks.

Sorry, the KNTB T-Shirts are all sold out.

[Eddie C]

Will there also be a " EVERYONE GET A LIFE " T shirt coming out soon?

[Eberbachl]

Will there also be a " EVERYONE GET A LIFE " T shirt coming out soon?

Yes...we will have one in your size shortly.

;)

[Marcus]

We also have a "I can't think of a retort so I'll just tell everyone to get a life" design in printing as well.

[Eddie C]

Sorry im not really good at talking crap all day long so im not really good at making up something straight away. You understand right? But I will practice just for you guys.

[Marcus]

Hey, practise makes perfect right?
Start small, pick on kids from a pre-school and work your way up.
I now pick on 14 year olds, hoping to start on 16-18 yeear old's soon. (plenty of bad moustache jokes lined up)

[Eddie C]

Is there any pre schoolers on this forum you know of I can practice on?

[Marcus]

Yep.....but we banned him. :(

[Eddie C]

Lol. Nice one! No offence New Tricks your a good bloke, this threads just's getting out of hand. You must have alot of fans out there.

[Eddie C]

" your a good bloke ",Listen to me im talking like I know him. Ive only met the man once. Damm Archery Forum! Now im starting to talk CRAP.

[Marcus]

Don't blame us that you are easily influenced.

[Eddie C]

Got me there! I am also really gullable. And cant spell real good either.

[Marcus]

When it comes to spelling I always turn to the bible.
"let he who be without typos cast the first stone"

Sorry, teh

[dbjac]

i think this thread has grown quicker than that "random crap" game thread. :o

[Eberbachl]

Lol. Nice one! No offence New Tricks your a good bloke, this threads just's getting out of hand. You must have alot of fans out there.

In this thread thus far, he has one fan.

In fact, the amount of messages the Admins received congratulating us on the suspension of NT was inundating.

:rofl:

[Mervwho]

Get over it people, it has happened for a reason so leave it at that. Move on please.

[2Dogs]

5...4...3...2...1.... FIRE

Now Marcus NOW! :D:D

[shannonhearse]

Where will i get my daily quota of "rad" from ?

I used to rely on some of his radness to rub off on me just by reading his posts !

Without new tricks around, im afraid i may become "un-rad" and wither and die.

Who is the second most "rad" person on this forum ?

[Betty-Anne]

This is probably a dumb question but I am practising to be blonde. If someone is suspended can they still read posts?

And I'm woman enough to admit that I miss NT and am looking forward to him being back. :)

[StevenB]

no they can't read posts, so you can call him a twat

[Betty-Anne]

no they can't read posts, so you can call him a twat

I actually prefer to name-call using names of pieces of male anatomy.

[Progen]

This is probably a dumb question but I am practising to be blonde. If someone is suspended can they still read posts?

And I'm woman enough to admit that I miss NT and am looking forward to him being back. :)

Of course they can read posts. I have no idea no idea whether a suspended user can read posts although I know that he doesn't appear in the Members List but he can simply not log in and read as a guest, can't he? Or perhaps do it at Glenn's place. :D

[OldDog]

I actually prefer to name-call using names of pieces of male anatomy.
So you call him :brains: instead.:D

[DanceswithDingoes]

So you call him :brains: instead.:D
No "vas deferens" :)

[katzgrin]

I actually prefer to name-call using names of pieces of male anatomy.

Do you think he's prostate with remorse?

[Betty-Anne]

No "vas deferens" :)

Seminal vesical has always been a personal favourite :)

[2Dogs]

I love it when you talk dirty ;)

[Betty-Anne]

I love it when you talk dirty ;)

I know

[2Dogs]

:rofl:............... Dam has Shermo been telling stories again

[Betty-Anne]

No. Do you think I should?

[2Dogs]

No. Do you think I should?

What?... tell everyone Shermo's Gay? ;)

[Betty-Anne]

What?... tell everyone Shermo's Gay? ;)

He's always been very cheerful the times I've talked to him :)

[Mike13]

Wow, I don't log on for a coupla days and see what I miss.....nothing.
I think the question of forum ethics is important, and I propose a Ethics sub-committee be established to set the ground rules for such a thing.
I will appoint Mike13 as chair with CMB50 and 2Dogs as committee members and possibly bring andrewc in as an outside consultant.
I accept.

[coach]

What?... tell everyone Shermo's Gay? ;)
Old news :rolleyes: :cool:

[wareagle]

Old news :rolleyes: :cool:

I got old just reading it

[Cartz]

What?... tell everyone Shermo's Gay? ;)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/N0nAbsolute/loled.jpg

[dbjac]

Cartz, thats the second one of those pictures.
Just thought i'd warn you marcus doesnt like them. Or, he at least doesnt like brokenarrow posting them. so be prepared for neg rep :lol:

[andrewf87]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/N0nAbsolute/loled.jpg
That is a quality pic though :)

[Cartz]

Cartz, thats the second one of those pictures.
Just thought i'd warn you marcus doesnt like them. Or, he at least doesnt like brokenarrow posting them. so be prepared for neg rep :lol:

Haha kk cheers mate

PS: Actually, it's the third ;)

[dbjac]

:lol: my bad.

[BrokenArr0w]

i have about 150 of them waiting for forum use on a photobucket.. ill have my day :D





then ill be banned.. :(

[CMB50]

Wow, you go away for a few days and look what you miss out on! :o



NewTricks knows why he was suspended and it'll stay that way, I've got no reason, will or obligation to raise it publicly despite what some people may wish.


I was on the Gold Coast the last three days, should have called in for a beer. :beer_drink:

[2Dogs]

You should have you slack bastard!.... I was on the Coast all day yesterday :D.

[CMB50]

:-x
Doh!