CC+ Cams

[robbo]

Would the CC+ be classed as medium or hard cams for the purpose arrow selection according to the Easton?

Also what does the R after the arrow size in the Easton arrow selector, mean. ie, ACE 430 - 470R?

[Kuru]

Robbo, asked Marcus this a while ago and he said they are a hard cam, so any problems blame Marcus ! ;)

[Marcus]

I said 'Allegedly' a Hard Cam. ;)

Not sure what the R means.

[Kuru]

Of course you said that ! ;) Maybe R stands for recurve ? I think if you ask James chances are he'd know. He seems to be the expert on most things :)

[James Park]

Yes, the "R" is the recurve recommendation.

[jm]

The last Easton arrow chart I saw categorized the various types of cams in terms of bow speed (IBO).

This makes sense as the same cam in various types of handle design (reflex, deflex or straight) will impart different velocities to the bow.

jm

[Shirt]

R is indeed for recurve. The ACE and X10 "perform differently" [1] from recurve and compound, and recurve requires a slightly weaker spine.

[1] No-one's got a bloody clue why they can't get the shafts to work like they should, so let's just stick a fiddle factor into the table. :D

[robbo]

Thanks for the replies.

I thought the R stood for recurve but I wasn't sure.

I am trying to work out which ACE's would suit, 49lb & fingers & " alledgedly a hard cam". Arrow length probably 28 1/2"

The arrow selector on the Easton site comes up with ACE 430 - 470 R.

Can anyone tell me why ACE's and X10's react diferently to ACC's, X7's & other arrows?

[Nasorean]

Robbo,

What is your draw length? I'll run the info through a program I have and see what comes out for ACEs. I assume you have a 2002 Ultratec, XT3000?

[Marcus]

I wou;d perhgas wait a touch Robbo and see what the Easton Lightspeeds are about. ACE's are nice arrows, but geez they are pricey. They react differently to ACC's due to the barrelling, I think it may move the node point of something, or make their whippier for finger shooters.

[robbo]

Robbo,

What is your draw length? I'll run the info through a program I have and see what comes out for ACEs. I assume you have a 2002 Ultratec, XT3000?

Yeah it's a 2002 Ultratec, XT3000 limbs, No3 CC+.

Draw length, around 28" - 28 1/2". I am still playing with it. I shoot with fingers.

Thanks
Robbo

[robbo]

I wou;d perhgas wait a touch Robbo and see what the Easton Lightspeeds are about. ACE's are nice arrows, but geez they are pricey. They react differently to ACC's due to the barrelling, I think it may move the node point of something, or make their whippier for finger shooters.

I'm not looking at new ones! :o

I'm looking for some cheap secondhand ones. :D

What are the lightspeeds? Are they alloy/carbon? I am looking for something a bit lighter than my goldtips, at 345grns. At 49lbs they are not real fast.

[Nasorean]

The program I am using (The Archery Program) shows that an ACE 430 with a 110 gr. glue/in point would work well.

This is for an Ultratec XT3000 CC+, draw weight 49#, draw length of 28, AMO arrow length of 28.5 using fingers.

Jim

[robbo]

Thanks Jim

sorry I haven't replied earlier Iv'e been away. So 470's would be too soft?

How many pounds would I have to drop to make them work? Or would say 90 grn points help?

[Nasorean]

Hi Robbo,

Yes, according to the program, 470's with 90 grn points would work just as well.

Jim

[robbo]

Thanks
It gives me a few options. I can get onto some 470's secondhand.