Points weights

[burt666]

Hi All,

Would anyone knows about a rule of thumbs / formulas to know which point weights to fit according to your arrows/poundage etc...?!?

There is my case: when i bought my new bow a year ago (aerotech + 70" G3 34 lbs), i was fitted with ACEs 570 spine with 100 grains break-offs....

I was happily shooting those with the pocket limbs adjustment midway through, then cranked up the thing to max to have a go.... but due to form problem, my coach made me wind down completely the whole thing, "to get the rhythm back",etc...

The "point" is, now with only 34lbs at my 29.5" draw length, my arrows just land at the feet of the butt at 90m, with the whole sight in.... so is was thinking of lighting up the arrows a bit, but i don't know:

1) is that a good idea?

2) if yes, by which amount?

Any suggestions/comments?!?

[Jay.G]

I think when you lighten it up your arrow would be tuned to stiffer and from the specs of everything (seems as if you should use 670s), 570 is already stiff, so both combine together... it would be stiffer in summary. Anyhow maybe only lighten it by 10gr wouldn't benefit you enough and remove more than that amount, it might result to be too stiff?

[recurve boy]

Would anyone knows about a rule of thumbs / formulas to know which point weights to fit according to your arrows/poundage etc...?!?


If you read the Easton selection chart carefully. It's all there.

Move your sight in.

[Jay.G]

If you read the Easton selection chart carefully. It's all there.

Move your sight in.

with the whole sight in....

the easton chart does have the point recommendation and I'am pretty sure the 570 is recommended to be like 90-100gr or somewhere alone that range.

[Flehrad]

If you can, you may have to invert your sight on the inside of the riser.

[burt666]

Move your sight in.


If you can, you may have to invert your sight on the inside of the riser.


done... i just don't want to reverse it.... got a 12mm beiter sight pin... wouldn't like to see 2 faces thought it at 90m you see...

[Sandy Hancock]

By the Easton chart, your arrows are probably a little heavy. I'm assuming the actual *shaft* length is about 28" and your actual draw weight is around 34 pounds.
670's and maybe even 620's would probably get you there. Otherwise get stronger and pull more bow.

[burt666]

i'm able to pull way more than that... it just that i'm through a target panic era (i was staying comfortably numb 10sec at full draw :confused: :silly: ...), so the coach did made me winded down my poundage....

Before i was happily pulling back the same limbs with the pockets setting to the max, i'll get back back there....

Not keen on buying new arrows for that temporary set up, i'm more looking for a quick fix, so i thought about the point's weight..

[Progen]

Your problem is in two parts.

1. Stiff spine at the moment.

2. Apparently insufficient poundage to shoot a full F.I.T.A. although that doesn't really make sense with your 29.5" drawlength because the assumed 38lbs is what I'm holding and I reach 90 metres fine with my Navigators and with the sight extension fully extended. Do you happen to have a really short face or something?

Don't reckon you can do much with your current arrows because increasing point weight to get them to tune better will result them in being even heavier so you're screwed. :D :D :D

[burt666]

Do you happen to have a really short face or something?



What do you mean? i'll try to get some pictures done of me shooting over the weekend, if it can help :thumb:

[Sandy Hancock]

What Progen is saying is the distance between your eye and your anchor point has a major impact on sight setting.
Putting an elevated shelf on your finger tab (or raisin gthe one you have) will give you more distance on your sight.

By the way, target panic is mental, how will pulling less weight fix it???

[burt666]

By the way, target panic is mental, how will pulling less weight fix it???

I was basically holding still at my face references... tensing up, starting to shake, etc... so the coach told me to wind my bow down the time to get the rhythm back, to get the correct muscle to work, to "power through" the shot, etc...

[Progen]

Assuming that you're not suffering from form problems or going through form changes, going down in poundage isn't going to cure your target panic. Going down's only going to enable you to hold steady longer through the panic but sure as hell isn't going to be the remedy. :D

By the way, you might want to get someone to take a look at your entire setup if you can't reach 90 metres with that drawlength and poundage. Plus you're using A/C/Es which is about close to 20 grains LIGHTER than my Navigators at that length and I even have arrow wraps on with FlexFletch 187s.

Just for the fun of it, I did a measure and the distance from my eye to my jaw (if I remember to close my jaw, that is :oops:) is 4.5 inches. Take a measure of yours and if it's longer, then either your bow or you deserve a spanking because something's robbing you of a lot of energy.