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recurve boy

12-01-2007, 02:25 PM

the other day i had to format my laptop because i got over 147 viruses. does anyone know any good free to download virus protections?

All the good ones require subscriptions as they are always updating their virus libraries.

Make sure you are behind 2 firewalls (one software, one hardware), don't use IE, and never go to a dodgy website. That should reduce the amount of malware you get.

James Hirth

12-01-2007, 02:28 PM

you could try AVG, we had that before we got Norton 2006
yea i have AVG and Nortan 06, and i also have bitdefender and spybot search and destroy

James Hirth

12-01-2007, 02:28 PM

primal

12-01-2007, 02:43 PM

All the good ones require subscriptions as they are always updating their virus libraries.

Make sure you are behind 2 firewalls (one software, one hardware), don't use IE, and never go to a dodgy website. That should reduce the amount of malware you get.

yep he's right, completely over react, and get as much protection software on your hardware as you can. :x

if you want an expensive solution, go buy a mac as marcus suggestes.

otherwise, get AVG free + the new afree anti-spyware from AVG. both are free and fully functional.

get rid of norton.... its sh!t, slows down your pc and layers itself between every transaction and mouse click. get rid of bit defender, and spybot.....

also get rid of your lime wire, kazaa media desktop, bear share, and other software that you use for "legal downloads".

then stop surfing porn and music warez sites

then to make sure your really safe........ disconnect your computer from the internet. ;)

2 firewalls.... humbug.

i run avg free, windows defender thats all, no virus's... no unexpected spyware. do i get virus's..... nope

i also run my own web and mail server @ home..... still no virus's

but dont expect your machine to stay virus free now thta you have a virus. your better off formating and starting from scratch.

Archangel

12-01-2007, 03:49 PM

the other day i had to format my laptop because i got over 147 viruses. does anyone know any good free to download virus protections?
http://www.ubuntu.com

katzgrin

12-01-2007, 05:21 PM

http://www.ubuntu.com
Amen brother. Spamasassin is bloody good too.

Archangel

12-01-2007, 05:33 PM

Amen brother. Spamasassin is bloody good too.
Haven't tried it personally, I manage with Thunderbird's built-in filter. I'm pretty careful about giving out my e-mail address though.

Ron

12-01-2007, 06:04 PM

most of the good virus scanners i know need to be bought... unless you want to download them illegally and have a risk of getting a virus for the virus scanner (would there be a risk of getting a virus from downloading virus scanners?)...

Archangel

12-01-2007, 06:14 PM

(would there be a risk of getting a virus from downloading virus scanners?)...
Probably, since Windows has no decent method of software installation.
AVG is a reasonably good scanner that doesn't cost money. Still doesn't compare to having a decent operating system in the first place though.

frommy

12-01-2007, 07:55 PM

As a McAfee user for over 15 years I have never had a virus. James, protect your investment with a little more capital for a good protection program.

Brian

Jason.P

12-01-2007, 08:14 PM

Try try this link for Avg

http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1

I've using for 4 yrs and had no trouble:thumb:

The One

12-01-2007, 08:23 PM

Haven't tried it personally, I manage with Thunderbird's built-in filter. I'm pretty careful about giving out my e-mail address though.

So you mean there's a market for me to sell it? ;)

mattg

12-01-2007, 08:30 PM

Avast is also fairly good and free for home use. Updates itself pretty regularly.

www.avast.com

GrahamT

13-01-2007, 10:44 AM

The analogy I use with my clients is this:
Its like human relationships
You are as prone (likely to be) infected as you are promiscuous
If you are only dealing with known safe sites and getting files from only trusted safe sites you have a low risk.
If however you are going to all sorts of unknown sites and have no control or knowledge of who else is going there you have a far greater risk of infection and should be well protected.

Liam

13-01-2007, 11:31 AM

Holy hell, nobody has mentioned ClamWin? Nod32? ClamWin is just as good as anything you could pay for, and nod32 is better. (But much harder to set up right.)

Oh, and james, what the hell were you doing with your computer to get 147 viruses? Christ! I ran my last computer for the last 2 years of it's life without any virus or spyware protection. Only the NAT firewall, and I wasn't exactly tight about not going into the back alleys of the internet, and I was fine. :D

Now I'm running ClamWin, because it came on the software for starving students (www.softwarefor.org) CD, and I thought "Hey, why not. As long as it isn't as crap as McAfee or Norton, I'll be set.

All the good ones require subscriptions as they are always updating their virus libraries.

Make sure you are behind 2 firewalls (one software, one hardware), don't use IE, and never go to a dodgy website. That should reduce the amount of malware you get.

Do you wear a space suit before going out into the dangerous germ carrying air? :silly:

Erica Nigol

13-01-2007, 09:19 PM

If you can afford to buy an antiviral proggy, you certainly can't go past Kaspersky. It has always, always found every threat, even the ones that Norton and the others have missed. It was recommended to me over 10 years ago as what hackers themselves trust and I cannot speak more highly of it.

If there is anyone out there even contemplating Norton, don't. I clean up computers that have had Norton installed on them. Trust me - it's no picnic.

primal

13-01-2007, 09:41 PM

Deez Nuts

14-01-2007, 08:31 AM

It was recommended to me over 10 years ago as what hackers themselves trust

LOL.

coach

14-01-2007, 11:31 AM

I clean up computers that have had Norton installed on them. Trust me - it's no picnic.
You mean you can actually get rid of it ?:o :mad:

James Hirth

14-01-2007, 01:42 PM

yep he's right, completely over react, and get as much protection software on your hardware as you can. :x

if you want an expensive solution, go buy a mac as marcus suggestes.

otherwise, get AVG free + the new afree anti-spyware from AVG. both are free and fully functional.

get rid of norton.... its sh!t, slows down your pc and layers itself between every transaction and mouse click. get rid of bit defender, and spybot.....

also get rid of your lime wire, kazaa media desktop, bear share, and other software that you use for "legal downloads".

then stop surfing porn and music warez sites

then to make sure your really safe........ disconnect your computer from the internet. ;)

2 firewalls.... humbug.

i run avg free, windows defender thats all, no virus's... no unexpected spyware. do i get virus's..... nope

i also run my own web and mail server @ home..... still no virus's

but dont expect your machine to stay virus free now thta you have a virus. your better off formating and starting from scratch.
yea i formatted it and thanks

James Hirth

14-01-2007, 01:47 PM

Holy hell, nobody has mentioned ClamWin? Nod32? ClamWin is just as good as anything you could pay for, and nod32 is better. (But much harder to set up right.)

Oh, and james, what the hell were you doing with your computer to get 147 viruses? Christ! I ran my last computer for the last 2 years of it's life without any virus or spyware protection. Only the NAT firewall, and I wasn't exactly tight about not going into the back alleys of the internet, and I was fine. :D

Now I'm running ClamWin, because it came on the software for starving students (www.softwarefor.org) CD, and I thought "Hey, why not. As long as it isn't as crap as McAfee or Norton, I'll be set.

Do you wear a space suit before going out into the dangerous germ carrying air? :silly:
i got a trojan dropper thats how i got over 147 viruses.

thanks for your help everyone

Erica Nigol

14-01-2007, 02:50 PM

You mean you can actually get rid of it ?:o :mad:

sure you can but it's fiddly, requiring manual removal of registry items etc. nasty stuff norton.

recurve boy

15-01-2007, 11:05 AM

Do you wear a space suit before going out into the dangerous germ carrying air? :silly:

Only in Windows Earth. But you need it since the entire world is composed of ****.

recurve boy

15-01-2007, 11:18 AM

yep he's right, completely over react, and get as much protection software on your hardware as you can. :x

lol. with broadband so prevailant these days, 2 firewalls is a pretty common config.

Also, I've taken a fresh install, put up my firewalls, went to some dodgy sites and in under a minute my entire PC was full of crap. Over a hundred bits of malware.

Some people may be lucky, others are not so much. Reformatting and reinstalling sucks arse, so I don't risk it. Also I do all my real work on a Mac. :P

Archangel

15-01-2007, 11:21 AM

Archangel

15-01-2007, 11:43 AM

lol. with broadband so prevailant these days, 2 firewalls is a pretty common config.
1 decent firewall is worth a lot more than 2 (or 3, or 4, or 542) crap ones...

Erica Nigol

07-05-2007, 04:41 PM

i've just cleaned up yet another machine with Trend Micro's PC-Cillin on it. this time it was the whole suite - firewall, antispyware, antivirus etc yet the machine was full of crapware, adware, spyware, trojans... that's 2 friends' machines in 6 months with fully paid up pc-cillin. i would not recommend this prog to anyone as it's not doing its job and is a blatant resource hog. (hubby's work ran the corporate version of trend micro and they still got infected).

Stryker

07-05-2007, 04:51 PM

I use TrendMicro on all of the machines here in my company and have never had an issue with any virus. Spyware and Malware are a different issue all together. Trend pops up saying System change and offeres 2 options 1) Allow Changes and 2) manage allerts. It does not seem to offer a "Dont allow the ****ing change"

Get rid of IE (All versions including the new and "improved" IE7 and use FireFox. Since i convinced all the people here at the office and then made it company policy to use FireFox we have had no IE hijaker spyware, malware or greyware. The only spyware or other that I have to worry about now is from "free" stuff that people install on their computer.

So tempted to change all of them over to None Admin useres but i cant be stuffed running around all day log-in and make changes.

Appart from that, as i said, I have not had a single virus on any of the machines at all.

Erica Nigol

07-05-2007, 04:56 PM

that's good to hear. but i still don't trust it if it's letting through what i've found on these machines. even the owners had had enough of the slowness and have removed the prog. mind you, surfing habits have a bit to do with what's found on machines too ;)

Stryker

07-05-2007, 04:59 PM

mind you, surfing habits have a bit to do with what's found on machines too ;)

Oh dont i know it :rofl:

System resorces have not been an issue at all. I have not seen any of the machines here slow down at all.. What type of machines do you have there?

Erica Nigol

07-05-2007, 05:04 PM

the 2 i cleaned were around 2.2ghz - not particularly fast but the lag was incredible with TM running.

Stryker

07-05-2007, 05:07 PM

the 2 i cleaned were around 2.2ghz - not particularly fast but the lag was incredible with TM running.

I will remeber that for future referance.. Our systems here are much quicker but my trusty old laptop is an old 1.6ghz and it runs normal.

Cheers bud:thumb:

Pat Mole

07-05-2007, 05:37 PM

people totally over-react with virus protection

Stryker

07-05-2007, 05:42 PM

people totally over-react with virus protection

Pat some do but when you have your own company that holds information (Personal, Financial and Other Information) on 1000's of people, that last thing you want is for:

1) It gets wiped out and lost
2) It gets stolen and missused

:thumb:

Pat Mole

07-05-2007, 05:52 PM

Pat some do but when you have your own company that holds information (Personal, Financial and Other Information) on 1000's of people, that last thing you want is for:

1) It gets wiped out and lost
2) It gets stolen and missused

:thumb:

I wasn't refering to your posts.
but when i have AVG and Nortan 06, and i also have bitdefender and spybot search and destroy
someone does that, that is over reacting. Especially when virus protection software is clearly not the issue, as 147 viruses still managed to infect the computer.

But in relation to your posts Stryker, i dont know anything about your business or how your computers are set up. But i would recommend you go with your temptation and get rid of the admin rights on your employee's computers. especially when you have the said information stored on your network. It leads to all sorts of security problems.

Stryker

07-05-2007, 05:56 PM

But in relation to your posts Stryker, i dont know anything about your business or how your computers are set up. But i would recommend you go with your temptation and get rid of the admin rights on your employee's computers. especially when you have the said information stored on your network. It leads to all sorts of security problems.

We run a standard network but behind a very nice set of hardware firewalls. But even with this, you cant be to careful.

I want to take admin rights away but i dont have the time to run around as I said.

Cheers mate :thumb:

Liam

07-05-2007, 06:03 PM

We run a standard network but behind a very nice set of hardware firewalls. But even with this, you cant be to careful.

I want to take admin rights away but i dont have the time to run around as I said.

Cheers mate :thumb:

VNC FTW.

Stryker

07-05-2007, 06:08 PM

VNC FTW.

I thought about using a VNC application but didnt get around to doing it. Will have to add that to the list....

But FTW? Please explain!!

Pat Mole

07-05-2007, 06:10 PM

"For the win"

Stryker

07-05-2007, 06:12 PM

VNC FTW.

For The Win? i hope you mean and not F*** The World

Pat Mole

07-05-2007, 06:16 PM

hmmm didnt think of that. but yea im pretty sure he means for the win. lol

i guess you could use the inbuilt remote desktop stuff that MS has... never used it myself, but my highschool used to use it (well they probably still do).

Stryker

07-05-2007, 06:19 PM

I use it to manage the server but i turn it off on all the PC's as MS has it turned on by default and its one of the first places that hackers try to access through..

But anyways, the stronger the firewall, software and other stuff the more determined the hacker!!

Liam

07-05-2007, 07:08 PM

Definitely for the win.. I like VNC. :)

Archangel

08-05-2007, 06:41 AM

Nah, SSH FTW I reckon.

Agh! Why can't I just write "SSH FTW!" without it getting decapitalised?

Oompa Loompa 3

09-05-2007, 10:34 PM

Agh! Why can't I just write "SSH FTW!" without it getting decapitalised?

WINDOWS ROOL MACS FOOL.

Archangel

10-05-2007, 05:57 AM

WINDOWS ROOL MACS FOOL.
What do they have to do with it?

Stryker

10-05-2007, 07:11 AM

WINDOWS ROOL MACS FOOL.

Who is stealing who's goods here http://www.archery-forum.com/showthread.php?p=249455&posted=1#post249455

whiz

10-05-2007, 07:12 AM

But anyways, the stronger the firewall, software and other stuff the more determined the hacker!!

I wouldn't say that.
I'd suggest that your biggest problem will always be people on the inside of your firewall.
If you have users with admin rights, that's your biggest threat right now.

"Hackers" and "Crackers" get far too much press. Authorised users are the ones that cause the problems.

Any network with Internet access will cause headaches.

Stryker

10-05-2007, 07:55 AM

I wouldn't say that.
I'd suggest that your biggest problem will always be people on the inside of your firewall.
If you have users with admin rights, that's your biggest threat right now.

"Hackers" and "Crackers" get far too much press. Authorised users are the ones that cause the problems.

Any network with Internet access will cause headaches.

I see your point whiz, but the people here and the type of work we do.. I have a group of very trust worth people.. But we all make mistakes..

The comment i made is that for the serious hackers, the greater the security, the greater the challange to them..

Aussierox

10-05-2007, 06:47 PM

WINDOWS ROOL MACS FOOL.
wait so first you critosize me for using that line and put my rep to like negative 1000000000000 then you steal the line????

Eberbachl

10-05-2007, 06:55 PM

wait so first you critosize me for using that line and put my rep to like negative 1000000000000 then you steal the line????

Go to google.com and look up a definition of sarcasm.

:silly:

whiz

11-05-2007, 05:57 AM

I see your point whiz, but the people here and the type of work we do.. I have a group of very trust worth people.. But we all make mistakes..

The comment i made is that for the serious hackers, the greater the security, the greater the challange to them..

The days of hackers doing something for the street cred is long gone. Now the more accomplished are doing things for financial gain because the risk is so much greater than it was ten years ago.

I am the security advisor for a classified network which covers Australia.

My users are all vetted before they can even get into the room which the system is in.
They attend security lectures every year.

They still do stuff which gets them prosecuted.

If you're relying on your users doing the right thing, your system is an accident waiting to happen.