Archery Supplies has Nav FMJ's?

[DanceswithDingoes]

Looks like Canberra has the first stocks of Nav FMJ's....it will be interesting to see if they are worth the bucks.
http://www.archeryshop.com.au/p/301220/navigator-full-metal-jacket.html

[Marcus]

I'ld say you can order them, not that they have them. Easton isn't starting shipments till at least March 3rd, and as AS is not an Easton distributor they will have to wait for the distributors to get them.

[DanceswithDingoes]

did you notice the question mark on this threads title?

[Eberbachl]

If it were a question, you would have said:

"Does Archery Supplies have Nav FMJ's in stock?"

Instead of:

"Archery Supplies has Nav FMJ's?"

and

"Looks like Canberra has the first stocks of Nav FMJ's"

:p

[Ozzy]

Perhaps I've become too cynical about these new products, but why FMJ ?
What the sceaming F do these things offer that a regular Navigator doesn't ?

& no Easton hype either PLEASE

[Eberbachl]

I see a number of distinct advantages:

They're much easier to pull out than carbon outer shafts.

They are more durable.

They don't wear (ie there's no carbon to wear off) causing weight inconsistencies between shafts.

They're heavier (less drift).

I'm currently shooting the Axis FMJ's and they're by far the best target arrow I've shot. I expect the Nav FMJ's to be better due to more favourable drift characteristics (also more expensive though).

:thumb:

[Ozzy]

Surely some of the disadvantages of aluminium arrows surely are present in these shafts.
Namely dents in the shaft surface from all that contact. That would kill those critical points with compound.
Another gimmick ? New for the sake of new ?
Go for it. Let's see.

[Eberbachl]

Nope, no bending or dents.

I've been smashing my Axis FMJ's together heaps already. Because of the carbon core, they resist bending, and don't dent.

I'm not speculating. I'm speaking from experience. They're very tough.

;)

I don't very much like the stock X-nocks, but the Beiter nocks are working really nicely.

[DanceswithDingoes]

If it were a question, you would have said:

"Does Archery Supplies have Nav FMJ's in stock?"

Instead of:

"Archery Supplies has Nav FMJ's?"

and

"Looks like Canberra has the first stocks of Nav FMJ's"

:p
No I wouldn't?

[Progen]

I see a number of distinct advantages:

They're much easier to pull out than carbon outer shafts.

They are more durable.

They don't wear (ie there's no carbon to wear off) causing weight inconsistencies between shafts.

They're heavier (less drift).

I'm currently shooting the Axis FMJ's and they're by far the best target arrow I've shot. I expect the Nav FMJ's to be better due to more favourable drift characteristics (also more expensive though).

:thumb:

You forgot to add that they look way RADDER too. :cool:

[Owen]

Hi Just to let you know Archery Supplies have just recived our first shipment of Nav FMJ in 460 size other sizes will be added as needed.

Owen.

[DanceswithDingoes]

:p

[James Park]

Maverick has them in stock as well.

[NOCK HUNTER]

Great!.........That means Urban will have them soon, so i can try them :D

[Coghlan]

Dont get toooo excited, from what I hear there is only NAV FMJ 460's.

Hopefully the rest will be comin real soon

[Kite]

Dont get toooo excited, from what I hear there is only NAV FMJ 460's.

Hopefully the rest will be comin real soon

urgh:mad: ... I am busting my bum for a set of 400's.

Dam teasers:frusty: .

[dbjac]

Dont get toooo excited, from what I hear there is only NAV FMJ 460's.

Hopefully the rest will be comin real soon

GREAT! thats my spine :)

[Desert Archer]

I'm on the other side of the big pond (Pacific) but I have been shooting the Navigator FMJ 400s for about two months now. I am pleased with everything about them except they aren't quite stiff enough for my un-natural draw length (33").

Because of the weight they tune very similar to the 430 Navigator, which defeated the purpose I had in buying them. I finally got them to tune by going to the lightest point (100g) and loading up the back with vinyl wraps, Flex-Feltch vanes and pin nocks. I ended up with 440g arrows which I shoot from a 42# recurve. They carry as well or better than the original Navs did from the same weight bow, and those weighed 425g for me. I would rather have a higher FOC (it's 8.51% for the FMJs) but these trac well out to 80 yards (Field course) even in some wind.

My draw length causes no end of problems in finding arrows but for now these FMJ Navs are shooting as well as anything I've used. They do pull easier from targets and they seem to be holding up as well or better than the originals with the carbon on the outside.

Dave

[ReG_C]

How do the FMJ NAvigators compare in diameter to say, cartel triples?:confused:

[Marcus]

Slightly thicker, by about 0.3mm

[Kite]

I ended up getting some 460's to use for my Ultratec. After using them I can't wait for 400's for my Switchback.

As Marcus said they are a little thicker than triples, but they seem to drift less, possibly due to the heavier shaft weight.

I carried out a very unscientific test with 460 Nav FMJ and 500 Triples, both arrows had pin nocks, FFS187 vanes and 120grn points.

I shot alternant arrows at a 90 meter target for 5 full rounds (36 of each type of arrow) in winds gusting from 5 - 15 knots and compared scores. My 460's consistently scored higher. Highest difference was 15 points lowest was 5 points. Now I know this is not a perfect test and other variables (like spine consistency could effect the result but I do feel the Nav FMJ’s were less wind affected.