What is best budget bow setup?

[compound boy]

Someone think they can provide a list of things to get, for a starting beginner (student) archer.

Must provide details and prices.

International fitting as the base model option.

[StevenB]

this something that is hard to say exactly, cause it will come down to brand loyalty and that every archer is different

but for a beginner

for a riser i would recoment the hoyt GM+
and limbs the hoyt edge limbs. (about 700 - 800)

sight spigarelli grand prix II (about $200)

rest hoyt super rest 2 (the white ones, $4)

stabilizers about 30 - 36 inches in total length (with or with out vbars) (spend about 100 - 300)

arrows ACC or triples

For some one who is serious and going to stick with it ($3000 - $4000)

riser: Hoyt Aerotec
limbs: Hoyt edge limbs (use these until you are strong enough to step up in weight) then get a set of FX limbs or Win & Win Synerzy

rest: some from of flipper. I'm a fan of the cavalier free flyte elite, but the stick on flippers are good and the beiter looks interesting

sight: Sureloc Guest-X recurve sight with Beiter sight pin

stabillizers: ACE VRS long rod (30") VRS extension(4") spigarelli vbar VRS side rods (12") target doinkers on all rods cartel KL damper for top rod

arrows: Tripples or ACE's or X10's

but this is just what I would want

[Flehrad]

I agree that it depends on the level of seriousness that the starting beginner is intending to shoot at.

I would disagree about spending money on getting a Aerotec straight off with that second kit.

For a good decent beginner's kit, I would say

Samick Agulla with Samick Agulla Glass limbs ($4xx total approx)
Using a Win & Win Magnetic flipper rest ($? 9-14 I think)
A Cartel Button ($35 approx)
Cartel K-Sight ($115)
Dacron string is fine ($20)
Cartel Carbon Stabilizer ($95)
And probably Jazz or Platinum Plus shafts ($60-$95 for shafts plus components)

So all up, it would be about $800 odd for a decent beginner's kit.
Then you can just upgrade once they get serious.

As for a compound beginner's

Hmmm.
PSE Nova (400)
GKF TM Hunter rest (65)
Archers Choice Release Aid (85)
Cartel K-Sight (115)
Cartel Carbon Stabilizer (95)
And Redlines (160 plus components)

So, it'd be about $1000 total for the kit.

[StevenB]

I would disagree about spending money on getting a Aerotec straight off with that second kit.


Why?

Why not start with what is possibly the best riser on the market, this riser will last you for years as will a cheaper riser but with the cheaper riser you'll wish you had bought an aerotec in the first place

[grantwomack]

I certainly wouldn't wanted to have started with an Aerotec. My EX is only just getting to the point that I can see how technology has surpassed its ability. A lighter riser would be something useful, my shoulders couldn't have held an Aerotec at an arms length for hours on end. Plus, the best riser on the market is the one that shoots the best for the archer. I only know that recent world records weren't shot strictly on Hoyt products. But that's just my opinion.

[Marcus]

This is uch a hard question to answer, especially as I personally don't look too much at that end of the market. However consider:

Buck Bows ($380 i think)

Bernadini sight ($295)

Cartel long rod ($95)

Bernadini drop away rest ($99)

Truball TruTension release ($99)

Beiter Sight tunnel with bubble ($42)

Finger sling ($6.50)

Peep ($10)

Vectors (about $250 i think)

$1276 and you have gear that will go the distance

With that combo you have gear that will win a Nationals without spending big bucks.

[Shirt]

A) Aerotecs are heavy.
B) If you buy a cheaper, lighter bow, you can flog it to someone else in the club when you eventually upgrade.
C) This means that after a while, there will be lots of basic level bows floating around for people to use...

[StevenB]

A guy at Warringah went through the beginners program and shot with the club wooden bows. He loved the sport so for his first bow he bought an Axis with a set of cheap wooden limbs at 36lbs shot this with aluminium arrows.

[compound boy]

agree with steve......... Why spend $300 on a GM, or $500 on a Winact, when you could have bought Aerotec.

well, maybe not aerotec. matrix?

[Shirt]

I went from a GM to an Aerotec and could tell the difference. If you'd sold me an Aerotec when I'd just started shooting, I wouldn't have known it from Adam. (Not that there was an Aerotec about when I started, but...)

I don't think I'd have been in the position I am now - I can pick up my AT and shoot it, and tell if something's wrong because of the general bow characteristics I learnt on a GM - like a vibration coming from above the grip = loose sight. However, if I'd started on my AT, there are more things that can be loose. (Record is four waves of vibration - sight, top doinker, detente pin in limb and tiller _all_ loose.) And I might not have...

I don't know how to finish this. I just think with my GM I learnt how to appreciate my Aerotec, and it's something worth doing. As well as the "charitable (yeah, right)" aspect of flogging all your dead or duff kit onto other club members.

[recurve boy]

You guys are thinking what you would have wanted when you were begginers now that you've been in the sport so long. Most beginners I've talked to who pick up my bow go "**** that's heavy" and I shoot an Elan. People get discouraged when they can't even pick up their bow. AeroTecs are 0.5kgs heavier plus stabs. Not something most beginners should be using.

[Flehrad]

I agree with Recurve boy on that point, and that is why I think, that you shouldn't go for the upper edge of competition grade equipment like a Aerotec etc.

For beginners, - KISS, Keep It Simple Silly.
You feed them too much too quickly, or give them things that are so technologyically advanced, they'll end up relying on Technology and equipment to shoot well instead of actual shooting itself.

I sort of learnt that myself a little while back, and now I have bettered my shooting before I have gone the step to purchase my own equipment, and I am now attempting to discourage one of our shooters from using more things than the basics because in my opinion he won't shoot any better with it, in fact it will probably add more problems until he can shoot properly without it.

[Mezza]

I agree with KISS...

Wood laminate bow $120
XX75's 120
Hoyt rest $4
Basic button $6.


Shoot bare bow for 8-12 months. Learn the basics well. And ask all the silly question you want here.... This board has provided me with so much help.

[Marcus]

Forget the wood bow, check out the Rolan Bows. Much sexier looking and about the same price! About $130-$150 as well.

[Flehrad]

Or for the same kind of price range, you can get Win & Win quality with their Lavita or Evolution bows too.

Or if you are thinking a little distance, you could got for a Mizar, or WinTech for that little bit more, but they are beginning to become the GM range of prices

[compound boy]

Hoyt GM
Samick Universal Wooden Limbs / Carbon Univ
Cartel plunger
Cartel long rod
Cartel K-Sight

Cartel Junior Arrows

[Jolly Archer]

Rolan would be a great starter bow rather than a wooden one! Evolution would be my reccomendation but..... it's not international fitting (or is the Rolan). You can get something as good/maybe better than Hoyt for half the price. I would be careful (from experience of basic Samick limbs) I have seen many sets break and in a few cases cause injury.

I always regret not buying something when I get something not as good/cheaper! Why not get a good riser + basic limbs and arrows etc! it's a lot of money to pay out on two complete bows, atleast if you have the riser you want and not likely to change it then you will not have to replace it! i would get the one you want straight away, as long as you are going to stick with it! Things like limbs and arrows are going to be replaced even if you have been shooting for years.

[Richard_Stock]

A low price bow for someone to learn how to shoot. The best bow for that is the Gold Medelist. It is an awsome bow! :P I still shoot with it and i score around 275. I love it

[andy]

A low price bow for someone to learn how to shoot. The best bow for that is the Gold Medelist. It is an awsome bow! :P I still shoot with it and i score around 275. I love it

275 for what? Full FITA? :roll:

No doubt GM is a great riser but i do think there are equally as good bows for a fraction of the price!

[clever_guy]

Can't beat a GM, they are the workhorse of beginner/intermediate bows. Throw on some wood core limbs, and you are ready to go.

:)

-CG

[Avalon1]

agree with steve......... Why spend $300 on a GM, or $500 on a Winact, when you could have bought Aerotec.

well, maybe not aerotec. matrix?

I had shoot with Aerotec, and now I had chnage it for Matrix. Matrix is lighter tham Aerotec and with minimum vibratoins. Really if you have Aerotec you know how good it is. Realy, it is perfect riser, but I think thah Matrix is litle bit more vibration free as Aerotec and it is cheaper :-)

[Hoyt Matrix Archer1]

The best equipment for beginners.
It depends on money!
But i think thet the W&W Toutal is good for begining.But for a young archers ( 15-20years) is a goog choose the Matrix.
Limbs W&W Chalenger wood not carbon!
XX75 arrows.