Social shooting

[gizzy]

We just had the East Coast Bay of Plenty indoor champs 41 archers shot it was competitive but very social everyone had a good time and it was a good chance to catch up with friends and meet new archers in the district, ANZ needs to encourage more of these kinds of shoots, it encourages more archers into the competitive side of the sport and there are more archers happy about there sport and wanting to learn more about it. Wouldnt it be a good idea to encourage more shoots like this, it gains alot more archers into the sport and gets them wanting to do more tournaments?

[The One]

Was this an ANZ-run event?

[burt666]

We just had the East Coast Bay of Plenty indoor champs 41 archers shot it was competitive but very social everyone had a good time and it was a good chance to catch up with friends and meet new archers in the district, ANZ needs to encourage more of these kinds of shoots, it encourages more archers into the competitive side of the sport and there are more archers happy about there sport and wanting to learn more about it. Wouldnt it be a good idea to encourage more shoots like this, it gains alot more archers into the sport and gets them wanting to do more tournaments?

Gizzy, what you are describing sounds a lot like what's happening during the Open Days of each Auckland's Club :thumb: tho i'm sure no one would protest if archer from other place are willing to come. I'm not even sure those qualify as minor tournament.

Club Champs as we run (three event: marked field, target and Clout) are a great way also to make the newest Club members discover new things, and a first taste of tournament i think.

Also, still as a Club, we are gettin' good attendance during the League shoot with our "BBQ+biers after shooting" policy.

One of our Club member tried to set up a winter league matchplay league sort of thing, and opened it to the Clubs around i think, but he never managed to have a miminum number of entries to make the whole thing worth it...

Speaking of worth, coming to our MatchPlay Champs later this year - a.k.a "The One Tree Hill Cup" hopefully gonna be really worth it by the sound of :thumb: but more on that latter...

So, yeah, they is plenty of things happening at Club level to get people interested! the more the better!

[Archangel]

We just had the East Coast Bay of Plenty indoor champs 41 archers shot it was competitive but very social everyone had a good time and it was a good chance to catch up with friends and meet new archers in the district, ANZ needs to encourage more of these kinds of shoots, it encourages more archers into the competitive side of the sport and there are more archers happy about there sport and wanting to learn more about it. Wouldnt it be a good idea to encourage more shoots like this, it gains alot more archers into the sport and gets them wanting to do more tournaments?
Okay, well as Vice-President, you are in the prime situation to encourage more of these kinds of shoots then, yes? :-)

[Archangel]

Whoops, I of course meant head JAMA person, you were vice-pres last year.
Wish we could edit posts in here...

[The One]

In which way do you propose that ANZ encourages such events?

[gizzy]

No this tournament was not registered, it is run to get all club members in the district shooting however this year all archers on the line were affiliated to ANZ, the club runs plenty of registered tournaments we have the North Island indoor JAMA champs next month, the world archery challange and the indoor nationals
Clubs need to get all there archers involved to allow the sport to grow right down to grass roots I thought Archangel as athletes convenor you would be trying to incourage as many as possible get involved, we have taken our club from no affiliated archers 12 years ago to over 70 now we must be doing something right.

[The One]

Ok, sounds good.

It seems to me that clubs should promote club shoots, districts should promote district shoots and ANZ should promote ANZ-registered shoots. But that's just my personal opinion.

I would still question how ANZ could encourage such an event though?

[Archangel]

Clubs need to get all there archers involved to allow the sport to grow right down to grass roots I thought Archangel as athletes convenor you would be trying to incourage as many as possible get involved, we have taken our club from no affiliated archers 12 years ago to over 70 now we must be doing something right.
Certainly, I'm keen to see as many archers as possible attend events, in whatever format they happen to be. I'm not quite clear though on exactly how you think Archery NZ should be going about encouraging this? You've obviously got some good ideas, so please share them!

[burt666]

i think the Clubs makes the Archers, possibly turn them into Athletes, then the Athlete's Convenor represents them and stuff, no?

Fine by me if ANZ wants to encourage "competitive but very social" shoots, but my personal opinion wouldn't you risk to makes the other Major Tournaments appear/sound "over-competitive and not very social - don't put your hand in there"?!? Maybe you undertake the risk of draining few archers from Major's, but i might be just plain wrong.

Competitive and very social sounds like every Tournmaments, Major or Minor i've to in NZ so far :thumb:

[Jim Reid]

Do you think you have sufficient archers and competitions to disseminate between 'social' and 'competitive' events. Surely all events can be both, and ivariably are in any case. :)

[hoyt for life 2]

The only difference I see between the social and competitive shoots is at social ones there is more catering to people who can't shoot the required distances. extra novice devisions are created, with easier rounds. Whereas at competitive shoots you are expected to shoot in the correct division. Also at scoial (ECBOPAA) shoots archers don't have to be associated to archerynz. I'm not sure if ANZ want to be spending time promoting shoots for non affiliated members.

[The One]

Do you think you have sufficient archers and competitions to disseminate between 'social' and 'competitive' events. Surely all events can be both, and ivariably are in any case. :)

Well, I suppose it is a matter of opinion as to how 'social' an event is. Every event I've been to in NZ has been a bit of both :)

[Archangel]

extra novice devisions are created, with easier rounds.
Yeah, because the one thing archery really needs is _more_ divisions... ;-)

[gizzy]

shoots need to be put on for what the archers want, going by numbers more archers want these kinds of shoots, if you get more archers happy about there shooting then they will want to enter the more competitive tournaments, I look at the numbers of archers competing at some of the Fita stars around the country, it is pretty sad and this is in the big centers where there are more than one club and there is a big population. I am not criticizing anyone here, I just feel if you can boost the number of archers wanting to shoot in tournaments they feel comfortable in then they will want more and want to enter the nationals or Fitas, this has to be good for everybody

[The One]

shoots need to be put on for what the archers want, going by numbers more archers want these kinds of shoots, if you get more archers happy about there shooting then they will want to enter the more competitive tournaments, I look at the numbers of archers competing at some of the Fita stars around the country, it is pretty sad and this is in the big centers where there are more than one club and there is a big population. I am not criticizing anyone here, I just feel if you can boost the number of archers wanting to shoot in tournaments they feel comfortable in then they will want more and want to enter the nationals or Fitas, this has to be good for everybody

Yeah, I'm all for more social shoots in the respctive regions. I believe that it is something the clubs should be driving.

[Quetzalcoatl]

I look at the numbers of archers competing at some of the Fita stars around the country, it is pretty sad and this is in the big centers where there are more than one club and there is a big population.

We had a full field for all three FITA tournaments our club hosted last season (well, one was FITA and matchplay), and waiting lists for two of them in case people pulled out. I believe Mt. Green ran out of spaces for their tournament too. I suppose this doesn't necessarily reflect the other big cities, but obviously Auckland is a big centre with a big population that likes FITAs.

In all honesty, I would expect to get less people showing up if I was to organise a social shoot up here. Maybe there are just different atmospheres in different clubs. Of course, when you have little fun shoots and BBQs with your FITAs the whole event is pretty social anyway ...

[wysper]

As a new archer, I would be far happier to make my first shoot one that was slightly more social than deadly serious.
Even if it was only to learn rules and ettiquette (sp?) etc.
Not to mention a bit of a confidence boost and everything too.

[Aint Your Daddys Bow!]

As a new archer, I would be far happier to make my first shoot one that was slightly more social than deadly serious.
Even if it was only to learn rules and ettiquette (sp?) etc.
Not to mention a bit of a confidence boost and everything too.

Hi Wysper we are going to put out a 3D coarse at our field coarse on sunday the 1st of July.It is on cemetary road on your way to Auckland.And yes it will be social.

[Quetzalcoatl]

As a new archer, I would be far happier to make my first shoot one that was slightly more social than deadly serious.
Even if it was only to learn rules and ettiquette (sp?) etc.
Not to mention a bit of a confidence boost and everything too.

I wouldn't call most of the FITAs held around the country deadly serious by any means ... obviously all the regulations have to be followed because they're registered to FITA and the tournament does need to mean something. Most club shoots run at target clubs round the country follow similar rules to how we run FITAs anyway, and usually the chief judge on the day reiterates the important ones. Besides, the other archers on your target are usually quite happy to explain things, and the organisers are usually happy to explain anything by email prior to the tournament. :)

Possibly the fact that the FITAs are quite social events means that social shooters are fairly well catered for anyway, and if you were to run a strictly social shoot, you'd just lose all the archers who are mainly there for competition and just have all the same social shooters turning up. (In Auckland, other places may be different).

But yeah - don't let FITA registered tournaments put you off as a new archer, there's nothing intimidating about them at all. Come up to Auckland next season for a few competitions ;)

[gizzy]

Hey Wysper aim for the E.C.B.O.P champs in October we shoot a clout, field and target shoot over 2 days your combined score decides the placings not always the top target shooter wins Riverglade archers are part of this, talk to Paul he always attends

[wysper]

Possibly the fact that the FITAs are quite social events means that social shooters are fairly well catered for anyway, and if you were to run a strictly social shoot, you'd just lose all the archers who are mainly there for competition and just have all the same social shooters turning up. (In Auckland, other places may be different).

But yeah - don't let FITA registered tournaments put you off as a new archer, there's nothing intimidating about them at all. Come up to Auckland next season for a few competitions ;)


Sounds good, that definately makes it sound less daunting.

Gizzy - I will try to attend that shoot, sounds like a lot of fun!

Aint My Daddys Bow - Not sure I will be out to the field course too soon, we just had our second child arrive last week. So we are a bit busy at the moment. Havent even been down to the range in the last two weeks!!

[Aint Your Daddys Bow!]

Sounds good, that definately makes it sound less daunting.

Gizzy - I will try to attend that shoot, sounds like a lot of fun!

Aint My Daddys Bow - Not sure I will be out to the field course too soon, we just had our second child arrive last week. So we are a bit busy at the moment. Havent even been down to the range in the last two weeks!!
congratulations*Wysper!!Hope to see you soon again!!!!!
:thumb:

[The One]

we just had our second child arrive last week. So we are a bit busy at the moment. Havent even been down to the range in the last two weeks!!

Congratulations mate, all the best :)

[Quetzalcoatl]

Congrats :)

Now you can raise two mini-archers ... :archer:

[gizzy]

congratulations wysper

[wysper]

Thanks Guys

Holly - our eldest - 3 years old, is already running round shooting her arrows into "bills eye" or the gold! (at this stage the bow and arrow are make believe :) )

So thats a good start.
Can't wait to get back in to it though.

The new bub is a boy
Weighed in at 9lb 13oz - so glad I am a guy!!!!:o :hail: