Arrows collide in mid air [Archive] - Archery Forum - Australia's archery related forum

James Park

25-09-2007, 10:33 AM

What if two archers shoot simultaneously, their arrows hit on the way to the target, and both miss?

johnske

25-09-2007, 10:40 AM

there's no scoring arrows so it's a miss each ... that's really touuugh luck - in nearly 50 years i haven't seen it happen once - how often have you seen it? :silly:

Marcus

25-09-2007, 10:45 AM

Me and Jim came close recently at 90m.
We both shot at the exact same time and you could see the arrows converging. Looked through the scope and they were touching in the middle of the X. (on the previous end Jim had a 60 and I had a 56 with 4 9's just out)

Dr Phil

25-09-2007, 10:55 AM

For the arrows to collide mid air and miss they were both going to miss anyway (or one dude is trying to shoot a target about 5 over)

ReG_C

25-09-2007, 11:04 AM

shooting at 10m (large Face) with a new beginner I've managed to have a collision, it bent the juniors arrow and barely moved mine into the ten, it as the funniest thing to see, his was actually going to miss (according to him) and it went into the blue, but the arrow was useless afterwards :thumb:

ReG_C

25-09-2007, 11:05 AM

Marcus

25-09-2007, 11:23 AM

no in practice at DVA.

The One

25-09-2007, 03:08 PM

For the arrows to collide mid air and miss they were both going to miss anyway (or one dude is trying to shoot a target about 5 over)

True :)

grantwomack

25-09-2007, 05:50 PM

I had it happen earlier this year. I heard the arrows hit in the air, probably 25-30m out. Mine ended up in the 6 on the left (my only arrow below an 8 all day) and hers ended up in the 7 on the right. I'm RH, she's LH, we shot at the same time. Me, high poundage recurve, her, low poundage compound.

Someone else mentioned it happening in Scotland about 12 years ago. One archer missed completely and the other hit the 10-ring. Both were top compounders. Tough luck.

26-09-2007, 04:21 AM

Had it happen once, at 50M, in the 1988 US Nationals. The other shooter and I just looked at each other and went "wtf"? Both arrows went into the 7 ring at the 9 and 3 O'clock positions respectively.

Then as now, no "do-overs" in FITA.

Same as if you were to transfix a bird in flight- which very nearly happened to me in Tokyo last week, at 70M. Never saw a bird swerve that fast before... we were both lucky.

Freeman

26-09-2007, 09:45 AM

I have seen it happen at 90mtrs. It was a coaching weekend when I first started shooting. A couple of senior compound guys were shooting alloys...arrows kissed at about the 60mtr mark and then hit at 3 and 9 o'clock in the 6.

Eberbachl

26-09-2007, 12:18 PM

For the arrows to collide mid air and miss they were both going to miss anyway (or one dude is trying to shoot a target about 5 over)

Not at all - they could well be destined for the target, and divert away to a miss - especially if one hits the other near the rear of the arrow.

;)

rabbitz

26-09-2007, 02:30 PM

Archangel

26-09-2007, 02:53 PM

I am confused... (So what is new you say)
Does this mean that more than one archer can shoot at a face at the same time?
Yep. Typically there will be 2 or 3 shooting at once on one target. Or even more for really serious competitive shoots like the Iron Turkey ;-)

burt666

26-09-2007, 03:07 PM

I am confused... (So what is new you say)
Does this mean that more than one archer can shoot at a face at the same time?

Obviously I have never shot at a "proper" tournament, only ABA & 3d where you take turns...

Rabz

Yes Rabb, for a Full FITA, you'll have typically 3-up to 4 archers on the same face for 90m/70m (or 70m/60m for the Ladies and Cadets) and 50m. And (hopefully) the Organizing Committee will put individual spot for 30m, I've shot a double FITA with two compounder on my target, and the OG didn't put individual spots for 30m.... was an expensive weekend....

Hannah

26-09-2007, 03:09 PM

Yes Rabb, for a Full FITA, you'll have typically 3-up to 4 archers on the same face for 90m/70m (or 70m/60m for the Ladies and Cadets) and 50m. And (hopefully) the Organizing Committee will put individual spot for 30m, I've shot a double FITA with two compounder on my target, and the OG didn't put individual spots for 30m.... was an expensive weekend....
I don't think I have ever been to a tournament where they have put up a single spot at 30m - damn it!

26-09-2007, 08:16 PM

I don't think I have ever been to a tournament where they have put up a single spot at 30m - damn it!

The NZ Nats always use the triple faces at 30m like the World Champs but I've never seen them used here.

Liam

26-09-2007, 08:29 PM

I've used single spots for club rounds but nothing more than that.

The One

27-09-2007, 04:11 PM

Or even more for really serious competitive shoots like the Iron Turkey ;-)

mmm... Turkey Turkey Turkey... :p

The One

27-09-2007, 04:15 PM

Not at all - they could well be destined for the target, and divert away to a miss - especially if one hits the other near the rear of the arrow.

;)

Tis possible I suppose, but they certainly would not have both been tens. Try drawing a triangle between the two archers, 80cm apart, and the X of the target. For the arrows to hit each other on the way down, either at least one was a bad shot, or the arrows were flying sideways.

Archangel

27-09-2007, 04:21 PM

Tis possible I suppose, but they certainly would not have both been tens. Try drawing a triangle between the two archers, 80cm apart, and the X of the target. For the arrows to hit each other on the way down, either at least one was a bad shot, or the arrows were flying sideways.
What if there's wind, but one arrow is more affected than the other? ;-)

The One

27-09-2007, 04:55 PM

What if there's wind, but one arrow is more affected than the other? ;-)

I suppose.

Now shut up, you smartass ;)

rabbitz

28-09-2007, 10:26 AM

Yep. Typically there will be 2 or 3 shooting at once on one target. Or even more for really serious competitive shoots like the Iron Turkey ;-)

Well that does surprise me, I guess I've led a sheltered life!
Thanks