Sydney Uni's Australian Universities Archery Competition

[Flehrad]

Just a preliminary heads up to all you Uni archers.

Sydney Uni has stepped up a gear in our organisation.

When: 17th & 18th July (Yet to book the field though)

Where: The University of Sydney, Sydney (Field location in limbo)

What: 17th - Geelong (15 ends of 6 arrows, 30m, 122cm faces)
18th - A Adelaide if we can get a large field (30, 40, 50, 60m, 80cm & 122cm faces, 20 ends of 6 arrows) or a Short Canberra if we can't get a large field (30,40,50m, 122cm faces, 15 ends of 6 arrows).

Cost: Yet to be worked out.

We will endevour to send a package with rules and registration forms by the week starting 2nd July to university clubs. If you do not have a club at your uni, but you would still like to register and represent your uni at this event, private message me with your address, and we will send you, or a group of you a package also.

Please be patient with us :lol:

Hopefully we can pull this off for the better good of uni archery
Thanks
Don Chiou
SUAC
Tournament Committee

[Marcus]

Good luck guys. Erika won't be going as she will be at the Worlds then, however if there is anything you guys need let me know.

[compound boy]

nice work don.......i guess we have to send our folks over then.

[Bobby Yeoh]

The main thing is to spread the word about the tournament. There are still a lot of uni's which don't have an archery club but have student's who are archers at outside clubs.

So if anyone in any archery club knows of some members who are uni students, let them know about it. You don't need to have a uni archery club to represent your uni.

Besides, this might prompt more universities to give a lot more attention to archery when in the past, we have been unrepresented in university games and generally in the public (ask any non archer who Simon Fairweather is and they won't have a clue, but ask then who Ian Thorpe is and everyone knows (probably not the best example but you get my drift))

Anyway, the take home message is to let people know about the tournament.

[Pete]

Still trying to con my parents into paying for a trip to Sydney. Any suggestions how?

[Aarleks]

Still trying to con my parents into paying for a trip to Sydney. Any suggestions how?

Tell them that someone is Sydney is willing to buy one of your kidneys, thereby allowing you to pay off your HECS debt?? :D :D

[Flehrad]

Still trying to con my parents into paying for a trip to Sydney. Any suggestions how?

Quite easy.
Tell them that you have been selected to represent South Australian University Archery, and you have to go, and unless they don't love you, they should pay for it and feel proud to do so. :P

And technically, it's true. Just you selected yourself to represent SA Uni archery.
Or if you want, we can even post you a letter saying you've been selected :lol:

[StevenB]

:o :D :lol: :lol:


I'll be up for it

[Pete]

Im not as deceptive as you guys. I just told them the truth and they are considering it.

But i need to know what accomodation options are available. Preferably cheap.

[Bobby Yeoh]

Im not as deceptive as you guys. I just told them the truth and they are considering it.

But i need to know what accomodation options are available. Preferably cheap.

Deceptive? Us uni students? Surely you jest! :P

Besides, it is "true" as you are representing your uni. It's not the absolute truth but then again, the truth can often be stretched and bent to suit your purposes (as I learnt in Law school)

Accomodation shouldn't be too much of a problem as there will probably be a generous soul out there who'll offer a spare room or bed. I know that it happens with a lot of other interuni competitions. I'd offer if my room (or rather shoebox) was larger.

[recurve boy]

Pete, can't you askl your sports association? they may be willing to put up some of the cash to get a representative ... long shot but ...

If you need any stuff UNSW might provide, give us a yell.

[Pete]

If you need any stuff UNSW might provide, give us a yell.

Define stuff. Will UNSW provide me with $1,000,000?

[recurve boy]

Define stuff. Will UNSW provide me with $1,000,000?

That was for USYD with regards to organizing the comp. You're still on your own :p

[Flehrad]

Actually, I just thought of an idea.
We have been trying to seek sponsorship etc, but without much success.

Marcus. Would Archery-Forum like to sponsor this competition?
Perhaps offer a Titan Scope as first place Compound Divisions, and maybe a copy of Jim's book as 2nd place? :)
Don't know what could be suggested for Recurve division prizes though.....
A Ron's Rod?? Copy of Accurate Sights?? A AF Shirt??

We are going to get medals/ribbons, but it would be nice to have a something to go with it. :D

And it might bring more newbies and archers to join and read the forum, etc.

What does everyone think?

[Juggs]

i dont think marcus makes much money outof this site guys.
unless you are getting serious advertising revenue most people run these sites for love

[Eberbachl]

i dont think marcus makes much money outof this site guys

I don't think Marcus makes any money out of this site....I think in fact you'll find that it costs him money to run :wink:

[Marcus]

Yeah AF isn't in a position to donate prizes at the moment. I'll see how we go closer to the event though.

[Flehrad]

Thanks ok, just as per usual my wishful thinking :lol: ~dreamy sigh~

It was quite funny last week actually, I got a letter back from Virgin Management in London because I had written to them about sponsorship, five pages worth actually.

I figured it wouldn't get to Sir Richard Branson because of letter screeners etc, but to my surprise, I got a letter back, saying that unfortunately due to the SARS breakout, they have decided to have a 18 month "hold" on all sponsorship, and thanked me for my very detailed letter.
And it was "dictated by Sir Richard and signed in his absence"

:o :P

WOW. Not only did it get to him, but he actually dictated a letter back.....
The wonders never cease in comparison to some other companies out there....

[StevenB]

he recieved a letter from some guy cause his wife was complaing about the shape of the sinks in the toilets on the planes was uncomfortable, so he had the shape redesigned

[frommy]

Get real you guys. If you believe that crap that Branson did this and replied to that, you will believe anything when you get out into the real world.

I sometimes dictate letters on behalf of the senior person in the business for which I work, and he signs them personally without reading them, but my daughter always does the same for her employer in the PR game.

It is called "bullsh*t", and you guys fell for it.

I should get a gig at uni lecturing on anti-bullsh*t protection from my 30 years in the workforce.

Brian

[StevenB]

but it is good bull**** :D

[Mich]

Hey everyone, its been a while since ive shot, so hi to everyone...
just wondering is anyone from victoria thinking of going to the uni champs in sydney??/
:D

[Flehrad]

The event details have been "finalised"

17th July will be a Geelong
18th July will be a Short Canberra

$30/entry for each day
Sorry but no discounts for entering both events (as it is, we may lose money on the Short Canberra if we don't have people shooting both).

A registration pack will be mailed out on Monday or Tuesday next week.

I have 4 addresses, one from Monash, one from Wollongong, one from UNSW and one for Newcastle.

If you would like to have one sent to you please pm or post the address here.

Thanks
Don Chiou
SUAC
Committee

[recurve boy]

$30 a day? You're ****ting me. What's the justification for that?

[Flehrad]

The justification is based on the lack of people who want to compete.

Targets, Medals, Target Faces, Truck hire, Judge.

According to my records, the last 3 years of EAUG's were $35/event.
In which this case, $30 is cheaper than that.

Had there been more people who said they were coming, then it would have been cheaper.

Right now, the figure was based upon 20 people coming, because apparently only 1 person from UNSW is coming, in which we would have expected more. The lack of response from the archers meant we had no choice but to make it base price. There is no actual profit in the $30/event price.

If you think it is too expensive, then don't enter. It's fairly simple I would have thought. :)

[recurve boy]

According to my records, the last 3 years of EAUG's were $35/event. In which this case, $30 is cheaper than that.

Yes, where event=2 days.

I suspect the lack of intersest is simply due to people not planning their lives 3 months in advance. We expected to be able to just send an entry form a month or less before the event. I know that's what Newcastle expected. A few of us at UNSW were in fact planning to go.

[Flehrad]

Actually
It was $35/event, or $55 for both days.
I know because I was the treasurer for the club, and a lot of our team didn't shoot the Adelaide cos it cost too much for going both days, even with the club subsidising our members.

You guys will get a form to register later in the week.
I asked for expressions of interest, to work out a price. It wasn't exactly a definite.
A wonderful example is Mich from Monash. She said she was interested, but she also said she might be going to the snow during the holidays.
However, I used her reply into the count.
I only got one response, Mark Lewin, from UNSW who actually said he was interested.
John told me there was about 7 from NU who were interested.
We are hoping for more people from Usyd once they know their exam timetables (as many don't want to participate if they don't get time to practice).

But, as all organisations for events, deadlines had to be made, and that one has passed.

[StevenB]

$60 for 2 days shooting, thats a bit rich :o

[compound boy]

my uni days are numbered, i'm out.....not sure if i told you......

-j

newcastle shooters must seek subsidies from the club........do it now

[Marcus]

Gotta tell ya Flehrad, but at $30 a day I wouldn't shoot it, even if it was my own State Target.
$30 for 20 people is $600, which is alot for a tournament. I personally would do this.

Shoot Geelong in the morning and Sht Canberra in the afternoon
Charge $10 per person
Use the same faces for both rounds
Go cheap on medals
Hope to break even

This is your first tournament, it's very easy to try and over run a shoot. Go to basics and say "What would indivate a success?" The answer is everyone having a good time. Not the medlas, or the faces or a fat profit.
I'm Tournament Director for my club and I never try to make a profit. Just try to get as many people as I can.

[mike]

sorry, have to agree with Marcus, Flehrad. I wouldn't pay that much for a tournament either.

That is way way too expensive and if you can't run it cheaper then you may as well cancel it because it will never get a big turnout...people, especially uni students, won't pay that much!

[Ferret]

Skip the medals and make a cheapo certificate perhaps...

[Ferret]

BTW, I may turn up since yer just down the street but have yet to cough up $90 or whatever Union membership...how late can I leave it?

[Bobby Yeoh]

Unfortunately, I have to agree as well. $30 a day is a lot of money. I'd personally be hesitant to pay that much to compete. I'll still be competing as it's for the club, but a lot of archers will see $60 for 2 days a lot, especially since the first shoot will only be a Geelong which if run efficiently, will take a morning to finish.

I remember shooting State tournaments in Vic (full FITA or L FITA) for somewhere around the $20 mark (Marcus can probably confirm this. And the bulk of that went to the trophies which were quite fancy.

Remember that this tournament is aimed (no pun intended) at Uni students. Not all will work and $60 is quite steep for a lot of people. Especially on top of the cost if some are coming from interstate.

[Flehrad]

Well, I am not the only one in making decisions on this front.
So far nothing is actually "definite" except I have posted the registration details to those who gave me addresses.
I will talk to the others, and if it is agreed, then we will change the price.
As for shooting two events on the same day, I don't know.
I don't know what the major complaint is, because as I have said in my previous posts, the EAUG's and AUSEasts in the past were at the same cost, in fact more per day, but yet we still had high turn outs. For both days. And travel to Erina and Newcastle. As for recipricating when something is in Sydney.....

And the $30/entry cos involves no profit...

However, if the event was made into 1 day, with no new faces, and no judge, and no medals, then it would be considerably cheaper.
However, it means the gold ring will not exist as on the 122cm faces, having 4 guys on a target at 30m will chew it up quite a bit. Especially if they are actually good shooters (not that we will be having that many from our club).
Ah, the joys of stickytape

[Flehrad]

A descision has been made on the competition.

It will now be 1 day event with the Geelong and Short Canberra Shot on the same day.

Without medals or Judges, and to accomodate 1 face for Geelong and 1 face for Short Canberra (because I seriously doubt the faces would survive both events) the cost will be $25/entry.

Most of the cost is splitting the cost per lane between 4 archers (when SIAP recommends 3 archers per lane which would make it even more expensive, but less arrow damage) and the truck hire required to transport the targets from SIAP to Uni and back.

So.
To repeat

$25/entry
1 day event
17th July
Geelong & Short Canberra on the same day.

No Medals
No Judges

I will make a pdf file with the new amendments and email them to the people I have posted registration packs to.

Don Chiou
SUAC
Tournament Committee

[recurve boy]

I don't know what the major complaint is, because as I have said in my previous posts, the EAUG's and AUSEasts in the past were at the same cost, in fact more per day, but yet we still had high turn outs. For both days. And travel to Erina and Newcastle. As for recipricating when something is in Sydney.....

I never remembered dishing out that much money for the EUGs. I too was treasurer and I don't even recall signing a cheque for something like that. Maybe we only subsidised the cost ... And us travelling to NC isn't NC's fault. The clubs don't run these tournements. The various sport associations do. If you want to stop travelling get your Uni to bid for the next AUS games.

[mike]

I'm just trying to figure out where the cost comes from for this???

Is SIAP charging you?

Can't you hold it at a club?

[Flehrad]

$25/target hire from SIAP
$12/122cm face
and a estimate of $90 for truck hire to transport targets from/to SIAP, which may be higher or lower.
Plus field hire which is yet undetermined.

We definitely will be applying for to host AUS next year.

[mike]

that's insanely expensive, I feel sorry for you lot in Sydney. I'm amazed that you couldn't get a club to host it for a lot less than that. And those target faces sound too expensive.

You'll all just have to come down to Melbourne to hold it next year, and hassle Marcus for the use of the DVA grounds.

For example, they're holding a National Ranking Round FITA this Saturday. The cost of that will only be their normal visitors fees (I think about $5 per archer isn't it Marcus!! Less for friends too, yeah?? :lol: ). Pretty good for a shoot that could get you into a national team.

I'll be shooting it and I'm a uni student too! I certainly wouldn't shoot it if it cost $25.

People down here complain about $35 for a 2-day State Championship event, so you could imagine the frosty response you'd get for a university competition costing $25 for a day.

[Flehrad]

Yes, I can imagine the frost, considering how much was expressed here.
Unfortunately for us, we are not very well connected in the archery world, and it would seem that a lot of things in Sydney are expensive.
The target faces are expensive, but we are sourcing cheaper ones, however postage to sydney brings them to similar prices unless we can buy in bulk, which our financial situation does not allow at the current point in time.

The main cost is actually the truck hire.
If we had have more people express intent of coming, then it would have been cheaper.

Cos, at $25/target, with 4 a target => $6.25
$12/face, with 2 faces (one Geelong, one short canberra) =>$24/4 => $6

So it would be $12.65
But because the truck cost is high, and the expressed numbers were low it has brought the price up.
As well as field costs.(since our Sports Union isn't the most supportive to us by comparison to the major sports like Rugby, Rowing, Cricket and Soccer)

Had we tried to book the event at SIAP, it probably would have cost us even more probably.

[Marcus]

Yep $5 Mike, for you $8 :wink: :P

Will be interesting to see how things go. I wouldn't run a shoot unless I could cover the projected costs froma club view point. For example if the tournament was costing me $500 to run I would only run it if the club had $500. If we made $200 on the shoot we make a loss, but it still goes ahead. If we make $1000 then bonza!!

Our Ranking round we keep the cost right down by:
No trophies
Judges are from the club, so we don't pay them
old target faces with new centres
reinforce our targets so we use them later
use our targets

Plus it gives our members the chance to shoot a FITA with some of the best shooters in the state. That's priceless.

Good luck with the shoot, I hope it goes well. It will be a learning experiance for you all and hopefully you can get your costs down in future and make some money off it.

[recurve boy]

Had we tried to book the event at SIAP, it probably would have cost us even more probably.

Did you guys even try? Do you know that a _whole days_ shooting there costs you $10?

[Flehrad]

If we wanted to book the entire archery park to ourselves, I'm sure it would cost more, and yes I am aware that it is only $10 for the entire day per person.
However, as we are hosting, it would have been at least a nice idea to have it on our campus, as the hosting university.

The only reason why we have to hire targets is because we just don't have enough ourselves as it is.

We have 2 foam targets (80cm size) and a whitetail (122cm size) on order awaiting delivery, but that wouldn't be enough to use fairly, especially if we are using 122cm faces for the events. We have stramit, but it is our last few boards, and we want to save them to last until our budget clears next year when we can purchase more targets.

I am sure that we will learn from this experience, and maybe next year when we have affiliated, and get hosting rights for the AUS event, our Sports Union might help us out with costs.

As it is, we're selling chocolates starting this week Friday, to raise funds so we can get more targets and equipment. So it's not like we're not doing anything about it, it is just a difficult task to start from a scratch level.

On a seperate note, Marcus, what is the points system for a Team Matchplay, similar to the one you posted about in the othe forum?
As in, you allocated extra points for teams with recurve shooters, and points for teams with less shooters etc, as since we have the field location booked on the second day, we're going to hold a informal team matchplay for Sydney Uni members using club targets. If enough of our members are interested.

[recurve boy]

If we wanted to book the entire archery park to ourselves, I'm sure it would cost more, and yes I am aware that it is only $10 for the entire day per person.
However, as we are hosting, it would have been at least a nice idea to have it on our campus, as the hosting university.

Well I asked Mike. 2 day event $15. But he assumed that we would need equipment hire (no, not the targets)?? I don't know, said he's over sees so maybe he's jet lagged. So that would be a ballpark estimate. AND we get to use the BBQ free of charge! Just bring the meat!


I am sure that we will learn from this experience, and maybe next year when we have affiliated, and get hosting rights for the AUS event, our Sports Union might help us out with costs.


Well if I were you I would check who has hosting rights next year. Likely they are already decided. Also likely they will have decided whose organising what and you'll have to start now to try and convince them to give hand over archery.

[Aarleks]

See the thread I started in the "Website questions..." section called "Out of curiosity...". Listed there are all the requirements for holding and hosting an AUC. I did quite a bit of research on it. There is no way it can be done without serious cooperation and help from both the Sports Union and AA.

I'm really looking forward to the team matchplay. Should be cool. :D :D Nice idea Don.

[Aarleks]

Woo hoo!! :bday: :bday: 8) :D

300 posts for me!! Now I only need to bring my scores up to Master Bowman level. 8)

[Marcus]

Team Matchplay

Teams of three archers with teams being mixed of recurve, compound, men and women.
If you are shooting close range then you don't need to add points for women shooters. You may also want to adjust the handicap for recurvers too.

Basically we did it this way
If a 3 man team has 1 recurver shooter that team gets 5 points added to their final score. So if the team shoots

67
78
80
they score
225
plus 5 =
230

We had one team that had 2 recurver shooters only (no compound) so it was decided they get 10 points bonus, which worked well and made them competitive.
The format was that each team shoots against each other. If your team wins you get 2 points towards the final ladder.
Once everyone has shot against each other at least once then the ladder is sorted and teams seeded.
How they match up depends on how many teams

2 teams
Team 1 vs team 2 for gold

3 teams
Team 1 bye
2 vs 3 for entry to gold medal match

4 teams
1 vs 4
2 vs 3
winners to gold medal, losers shoot for bronze

5 teams
4 vs 5, loser out, winner becomes team 4 in 4 team matchup

6 teams
3 vs 6
4 vs 5
losers out winners move to 4 team format

7 teams
round one
6 vs 7 loser out
round 2
3 vs r1 winner
4 vs 5
losers out

8 teams
1 vs 8
2 vs 7
3 vs 6
4 vs 5

you get the picture

good luck

[recurve boy]

I remember the thread Alex, but not the details :D But I believe starting the organization for 2004 AUS games is best done now. I remember checking out what the go was for this year and arrangements had already been settled by Nov/Dec 2002. If you try end of this year or begginning of next, you're not going to get it. You may not even get it now.

[Flehrad]

:o
I'm tired enough with my Masters project due in a week and 2 days, so I'm not going to change any more details with this competition.
It's going to stay at Sydney Uni, and yes, it would be more expensive, but if you don't like it, you're welcome not to come. :)

As it is, I'm battling the Sports Union about the shoot location on campus, and it might have to be moved to a different field on campus, so that is enough of a headache without making it to SIAP.

Thanks for that info on the Team Matchplay Marcus.
And as for other uni's coming to play the team matchplay on the Friday, you're welcome, but you'd have to chip in something small for shooting, since we will be charging range fees starting July. But since it's informal, we can even have mixed teams from different unis.
Maybe a Team PSE vs Team HoytUSA, though with John shooting a Hoyt.... we'd probably get kicked with our PSE shooters :P

[Aarleks]

Yes starting now is the best idea. However, the deadline for submission of applications (have to be someway through the organising to even apply) is November. This would be for an AUC. AUS Games (AUGs) require even more time. IIRC the sport has to be an AUC status sport before it can be accepted to an AUG. Could be wrong.

[compound boy]

John doesn't shoot Hoyt compound anymore. Maybe just send Sharon OBrien on her lonesome, with that ancient hoyt meridian she has.

Matchplay would be the go. From now on, I hope you guys make plans for team and indiv matchplay.

the uni's in singapore have done this successfully. 70% of student shooters using club equipment and a grading system.

I've been in their comps and seen it up close, seems to be quite a nice twist. And exciting for everyone.

[recurve boy]

:o
I'm tired enough with my Masters project due in a week and 2 days, so I'm not going to change any more details with this competition.
It's going to stay at Sydney Uni, and yes, it would be more expensive, but if you don't like it, you're welcome not to come. :)
I realise its too late to change the details. I'm a bit disappointed because it might be hard to get more people to go. We're going to have to do some subsidising on my end.

Does archery loose its AUS status since its not in this year :o ? I think there are also rules on how often you can submit a sport for AUG consideration. It was attempted to get archery in last year.

[Aarleks]

I think there are also rules on how often you can submit a sport for AUG consideration.

Yes I think you're right Marc. Something like two or three times in a row. Can't remember.

The best thing to do (in my humble opinion) is to hold an AUC. That would generate competition, interest (from potential AUG hosts with an archery club/archers), and possibly extra funding from Sports Unions and the like.

FITA (Star) + Matchplay would be my vote for such an event.

[recurve boy]

[quote]The best thing to do (in my humble opinion) is to hold an AUC. That would generate competition, interest (from potential AUG hosts with an archery club/archers), and possibly extra funding from Sports Unions and the like.

FITA (Star) + Matchplay would be my vote for such an event.

Perhaps a comp to coincide with the AUG? My feeling would be to go with the Olympic format though. It will be more familiar to non-archers :-? and more interesting to watch. I think that is important if we are to get more funding.

[Aarleks]

That's a good point. Especially relevant for next year. Could really boost the profile of the sport at Uni level if it was held sometime close to the Olympics. AA would ultimately decide it though and they would probably go for the same format as the Nationals.

[recurve boy]

The Olympics! I totally forgot about that! I hope they have coverage. Fingers crossed.

Why would the round be up to the AA?

[Aarleks]

One of the requirements for an AUC to be held is that it is done with the approval, and cooperation of the NGB, and that it must resemble (read be the same as) the Nationals format.

I would argue that in Olympic years it should be the Olympic format, in other years the National/FITA format.

[Flehrad]

So what are you shooting with John? Or are you not shooting at all anymore these days?......

I have applied for a Nescafe Big Break (as seen in the Leader Newspaper last week) with the aim to promote University Archery.

If I win any form of prize money ($1000 - $20 000) then it would go straight into purchasing long term targets and equipment in bulk such as target faces etc, so that in the future, we can hold competitions with extremely low costs such as a base range fee ~$3 plus judges and awards. In which I am sure people would be very happy with.

I may not be around a university setting next month, let along next year as my studies finish in three weeks, but I am deliberately not accepting full time work until after the competition 8) That I worked my butt off trying to get happening. But if I can, I will definitely help out with regards to any organisation and persuasion of people in relation to holding other events.

What I would be interested is, to hold an indoor competition later in the year, and hosted at UNSW, where we would be of course happy to pay entries since I know you guys have very high facility fees also (I read the 2002 Finacial report on your website). Especially since Alex and Dan are going to go to the Blue Mountains Indoor in a few weeks, and I wouldn't mind giving a shot at indoors too.

What is the difference with a FITA and a FITA(star)?

[Aarleks]

What is the difference with a FITA and a FITA(star)?

They put little stars all over the field. :D :lol: Looks pretty. :D

No seriously, a FITA Star is a FITA round from which Stars may be claimed. Ranking shoots for example are not Star events, even though it is the FITA round with judges etc. So one cannot claim FITA Stars for any eligible scores.

The Archery Victoria website has some nice pictures of the Stars we can win.

[Bobby Yeoh]

I've got an old FITA star as well if you want to have a look at it. It's and 1100 star from a State tournament quite a while ago. I'll bring it down on Friday if you want?

[recurve boy]

So what are you shooting with John? Or are you not shooting at all anymore these days?......


He has seen the light and shoots recurve. But has rather substandard equipment considering what he's spent. An aerotec, winacts, Cartel K-sight, Shibuya button, Elan, Samick Universal carbons, W&W sight. Still shoots those CT Sportsters.


If I win any form of prize money ($1000 - $20 000) then it would go straight into p........awards. In which I am sure people would be very happy with.

Foam targets. They last longer. Have the club shoot photocopied targets on regular days. That'll save cost.


What I would be interested is, to hold an indoor competition later in the year, and hosted at UNSW .... Especially since Alex and Dan are going to go to the Blue Mountains Indoor in a few weeks, and I wouldn't mind giving a shot at indoors too.


Perhaps I will hunt for a location. Don't hold your breath.

[Flehrad]

8)
So does that mean John has sold all his compound gear? Because I remember he was selling off arrows and stuff in another post.

I wouldn't mind shooting recurve again some day when I can afford it.

Yeah, we would be getting foam targets.
Right now we're still awaiting our first Whitetail target... the delivery details have been stuffed up and it's getting sorted.
But if that much money comes in, we'd be probably investing in some different types just to see which ones come out best, like the Danage, or the ones that Randell Wellings is displaying in the Classified forum, as well as Jim Larven mentioning a new target being developed with 2 different size replacement centers (eg, 1 ten ring insert and a 7 ring O shaped insert).

Printed faces, sure, but colour printing?..... most of our shooters are still beginners, and it helps them a lot to be able to shoot at a full sized target face.

Why wouldn't you be able to hold something where UNSW normally train indoors?

[Aarleks]

It's only 14m at UNSW and can only fit around 10 archers.

[Flehrad]

14m and only has about space for 10?!!!!
And how much do they charge you for that space?!
Sheesh...... property space is so wrong in Sydney. :o

[compound boy]

hello boychiks,

yeah, recurve boy is right, i have gone on procurement and now shoot recurve. but have **** arrows.

Hoyt AeroTec/Winact Setup

Hoyt Elan setup

recent news: i took my ACC 3-18s (the only quality arrows i ever bought) which come out of the 50-60 compound, and shot them out of a 38 pound aerotec. They come out very well. Will shoot them at 30m to boost the scores. haha.

compound is sold, but stevej is tempting me to buy the defiant he has.......for a change, it has the correct draw length i require..........

[recurve boy]

It's only 14m at UNSW and can only fit around 10 archers.

We actually measured this. 16m. 18 if you shoot up against the wall. We have tried to relocate many times but always met opposition. Too much public liability bull****.

[frommy]

I have not gone back over this thread in detail, but can report that, from my perspective, the UNSW Unisearch House provided a near perfect venue for several State Indoor champs a few years ago. I shot them both.

The lighting accross the target area was brilliant, but the back lighting from the shooting line, for compound shooters, provided difficulty for those using micro-peeps, or power-peeps. There was not enough light to get the peep working.

It is an old bowling alley and all the lighting is directed toward the wall where the pins used to sit. That is the only place the targets could be set up.

But an otherwise brilliant facility for Indoor for a largish event. Maybe too many holes were poked through the back (fibro) wall for the Uni to be again interested? :-?

Brian

[recurve boy]

frommy, the official word is that Unisearch house is CATS and so no sporting events are to be held there. Also they told us that they wanted to demolish it. This was a couple years ago. They have only now knocked it down.

Its all just public liability.

CATS: centrally allocated teaching space

[frommy]

Recurve boy,

Bugger. That was a good venue.

[StevenB]

it was very good venue, but the canteen service was a little slow :(