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ec
17-11-2007, 03:34 PM
Earlier today a release aid was dropped while on the shooting line. It bounced off of his foot and spun end over end towards the target well beyond reach. But within the zone where an arrow could be shot again.

In a competition would this be the same as an arrow that was misfired? and would he have just had to wait till he could pick it up then shoot his remaining arrows?

Action Man
17-11-2007, 03:43 PM
Call an equipment failure and shoot the remaining arrows once it is retrieved.

ec
17-11-2007, 03:51 PM
okay, and that was the light hearted call so he could pick it up. (this was just recreational shooting so we paused and it was picked up straight away. it wasn't till now that i considered it)
However, no piece of mechanical equipment failed. Could we be mean and say too bad? No points for you that end.

Dr Phil
17-11-2007, 05:40 PM
Grab your scope and turn it 90 degrees then call equipment failure. Not that I have ever done it:thumb:

Ed
19-11-2007, 12:30 PM
Yep - best thing to do - judges would have no problem with that.

Call an equipment failure and shoot the remaining arrows once it is retrieved.

tropicalshot
19-11-2007, 01:00 PM
Yep - best thing to do - judges would have no problem with that.

or ask 2 dogs for one of his many escential spares lol

Ed
19-11-2007, 01:37 PM
or ask 2 dogs for one of his many escential spares lol

Nah - you'd waste too much time;)

2Dogs
19-11-2007, 02:05 PM
If you were beating me I'd have to say tought sh it ol Chap ;)

Jay Bowden
19-11-2007, 04:24 PM
Shoot the end with your fingers

GuyDawg9
26-11-2007, 05:16 PM
um i thought release aids are not covered in terms of equipment failure so you prob need to pull out a spare or break something so you can call an equipment failure..

Ed
26-11-2007, 06:31 PM
Is a release aid a piece of equipment? YES. Has it 'failed?' YES. I've allowed an EF for archers who have left their release aid at the target or mislaid their finger tab. Be reasonable! They are not trying to gain an advantage. Always look at the INTENT of a rule.

um i thought release aids are not covered in terms of equipment failure so you prob need to pull out a spare or break something so you can call an equipment failure..

Brocky
26-11-2007, 07:19 PM
:o wow thats a first is it not the compound bow which is meant to break at a comp, how much more time do you guys want at a comp.

Ed
26-11-2007, 08:12 PM
Brocky - I also alluded to a mislaid finger tab - RECURVE! Now how much time do you want?

:o wow thats a first is it not the compound bow which is meant to break at a comp, how much more time do you guys want at a comp.

KAJ
26-11-2007, 08:44 PM
Grab your scope and turn it 90 degrees then call equipment failure. Not that I have ever done it:thumb:
:rofl: and its safer too as you havent actually broken anything

Brocky
27-11-2007, 05:32 PM
Brocky - I also alluded to a mislaid finger tab - RECURVE! Now how much time do you want?
:rofl:

The One
27-11-2007, 08:27 PM
Is a release aid a piece of equipment?

One could argue that arrows are also items of equipment. Doesn't FITA also specify that you cannot call gear failures for arrows?

Ed
27-11-2007, 08:48 PM
One could argue that arrows are also items of equipment. Doesn't FITA also specify that you cannot call gear failures for arrows?

Which rule says that? Of course arrows are items of equipment but you don't have the advantage of the FITA Judge Guidebook. Under 7.5.2 in this book it states that "an equipment failure is to replace or repair items which the archer could not be expected to foresee a problem. Broken strings or nocks ..... and the like are equipment failures." As far as arrows are concerned you need to ensure that you have replacements readily available.

You need to also understand that essentially judges are there to protect the archer and not to penalise him/her for something which is not their fault. Unless it can be demonstrated that the archer is attempting to gain an unfair advantage then the benefit of the doubt should be applied.