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Custard
04-02-2008, 10:40 AM
If you shoot a FITA70mtr round in the morning, break for lunch, and then one in the afternoon, you can only claim performance awards from the morning round because there is no practice allowed before the round, and the morning would count as practice for the afternoon.
What if you shot compound morning and recurve afternoon?
Or even longbow then flatbow?
Would the rules allow for this? or is there nothing to cover it in the rule book and it is still a morning practice?
The One
04-02-2008, 03:34 PM
If you shoot a FITA70mtr round in the morning, break for lunch, and then one in the afternoon, you can only claim performance awards from the morning round because there is no practice allowed before the round, and the morning would count as practice for the afternoon.
Balls!
I'm sure you could register two in one day. What's the difference between an hour break at lunch and a 20 hour break til the next morning? As long as you have a separate practice/sighting session, it should be fine.
flyboy_su27
04-02-2008, 03:37 PM
If you shoot a FITA70mtr round in the morning, break for lunch, and then one in the afternoon, you can only claim performance awards from the morning round because there is no practice allowed before the round, and the morning would count as practice for the afternoon.
What if you shot compound morning and recurve afternoon?
Or even longbow then flatbow?
Would the rules allow for this? or is there nothing to cover it in the rule book and it is still a morning practice?
hmm yeah, I was wondering that with my Postal shoots. I'll do my quarter FITA and then if I feel like it I'll shoot again and take the bests core out of the two. But technically you're only supposed to have one sighting/practice end. Never really cared but I always wondered.
Clare Barnes
04-02-2008, 04:00 PM
If you shoot a FITA70mtr round in the morning, break for lunch, and then one in the afternoon, you can only claim performance awards from the morning round because there is no practice allowed before the round, and the morning would count as practice for the afternoon.
Really? :-?
Clare Barnes
04-02-2008, 04:03 PM
hmm yeah, I was wondering that with my Postal shoots. I'll do my quarter FITA and then if I feel like it I'll shoot again and take the bests core out of the two. But technically you're only supposed to have one sighting/practice end. Never really cared but I always wondered.
The FITA rule book (NZ version) must be an interesting read...
flyboy_su27
04-02-2008, 04:17 PM
The FITA rule book (NZ version) must be an interesting read...
Yeah it probably is. I was just wondering the same thing that was in the OP really.
gizzy
04-02-2008, 05:35 PM
hmm yeah, I was wondering that with my Postal shoots. I'll do my quarter FITA and then if I feel like it I'll shoot again and take the bests core out of the two. But technically you're only supposed to have one sighting/practice end. Never really cared but I always wondered.
If you do that in postal shoots then it is cheating, the archers who follow the rules are disadvantaged
flyboy_su27
04-02-2008, 05:43 PM
If you do that in postal shoots then it is cheating, the archers who follow the rules are disadvantaged
Perhaps. But, lets say if it was just a club day and we were just practicing etc. If I did a few ends at a different distance (say for an upcoming comp), and then decided to shoot my postal. That could also be seen as an advantage as you have had time to warm up and get relaxed into your shooting and get used to conditions etc. So one would have to shoot his postal once and once only and by itself.
Yeah it seems fair, normally I only do it once but the last one I did I shot twice because i felt I just wasn't shooting well the first time round. But if you consider it cheating (fair comment), I will re-shoot it once and use that score. It's interesting though..ah well.
Flame
04-02-2008, 06:05 PM
Balls!
I'm sure you could register two in one day. What's the difference between an hour break at lunch and a 20 hour break til the next morning? As long as you have a separate practice/sighting session, it should be fine.
I register 2 FITA 70mRR with FITA for clubs in Australia on the one day
They shoot one in the morning and one after lunch and are 2 seperate rounds
These are normally combined with compound archers shooting a full FITA
Custard
05-02-2008, 05:42 AM
FITA Rule 3.19.1.1
Maximum practice of 45 mins on the day.
What's the difference between an hour break at lunch and a 20 hour break til the next morning?
The answer is that is is not on the same day.
If you are shooting more than 45 mins in the morning sesion, it is, and should be, regarded as practice for the afternoon.
The One
05-02-2008, 07:30 AM
If you are shooting more than 45 mins in the morning sesion, it is, and should be, regarded as practice for the afternoon.
Sorry, I disagree.
Hannah
05-02-2008, 09:00 AM
FITA Rule 3.19.1.1
Maximum practice of 45 mins on the day.
The answer is that is is not on the same day.
If you are shooting more than 45 mins in the morning sesion, it is, and should be, regarded as practice for the afternoon.
Where are you getting this from? Quoting rules would be helpful...I thought that FITA rulebooks were the generic irrespective of which country, particularly in the same region!
Hannah
05-02-2008, 09:02 AM
Is this not just an interpretation...and how about if you have a five hour break? Where is the line drawn? And what about if you are shooting two different types of bows, or two different categories? Why, then, at World Level tournaments can you do this?
Custard
05-02-2008, 09:39 AM
I am getting this from FITA - BOOK 1 - Constitution and Administrative Rules.
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Hannah
05-02-2008, 09:58 AM
As far as different bow types are concerned, that was the question I was originally asking.
I know of people who have done this at world level FITA events.
I know of people who have shot with the same bow in different divisions on the same day as well, and both were fine as far as the judges were concerned.
Erika
05-02-2008, 10:00 AM
I know of people who have done this at world level FITA events.
I know of people who have shot with the same bow in different divisions on the same day as well, and both were fine as far as the judges were concerned.
Yeah... i heard that rumour too. Stoopid idea!
Hannah
05-02-2008, 10:03 AM
Yeah... i heard that rumour too. Stoopid idea!
:rofl:
If you shoot a FITA70mtr round in the morning, break for lunch, and then one in the afternoon, you can only claim performance awards from the morning round because there is no practice allowed before the round, and the morning would count as practice for the afternoon.
What if you shot compound morning and recurve afternoon?
Or even longbow then flatbow?
Would the rules allow for this? or is there nothing to cover it in the rule book and it is still a morning practice?
Clearly these are 2 separate rounds and I would treat them as such. I would allow a set time for practice (determined by the OC - but not less than 20 mins) for each round. I think that the FITA rules being quoted really only apply if one round is being shot on the day. You may also have archers shooting in the afternoon who did not shoot in the morning. Aren't they entitled to a practice session?
Erika
05-02-2008, 10:38 AM
I know of people who have done this at world level FITA events.
Given it was a fita over two days.... there was practice for each half.. lol so it ran compound long distances, recurve long distances, compound short distances, recurve short distances... or something to that effect. With practice for each stint.
I don't think they counted the arrows shot in the other division as being relevant. Well fita didn't have a problem with it at any rate... but maybe they just thought it was as funny as i did.
Simon Hendry
06-02-2008, 11:35 AM
Yeah... i heard that rumour too. Stoopid idea!
Thats funny:rofl:
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