Shooting arrows into eachother

[Stewie]

hello everyone

Last week at a friendly match during a training session (indoor, 25m, 3 arrows) I shot an arrow ( big X7 eclipse) onto another one, the bushing took the blow and the arrow bounced back to land on the ground. Both arrows were mine. Is this officially considered a miss :confused: ( I wrote it down as miss anyway, as it did not hit the target face.)

[Marcus]

No you get the same value as the arrow yours buried into.

[Stewie]

Okay, thanks for the answer.

[James Park]

In the FITA yesterday at 30M I hit one of Chris Grosvener's arrows in the X ring (severely dented the pin) and deflected into the 9 - score of 9 instead of the deserved 10.
Next end Chris did the same to one of Peter King's arrows - score of 9 instead of the deserved 10.
I was then waiting for Peter to do it to me in the next end.

[tropicalshot]

In the FITA yesterday at 30M I hit one of Chris Grosvener's arrows in the X ring (severely dented the pin) and deflected into the 9 - score of 9 instead of the deserved 10.
Next end Chris did the same to one of Peter King's arrows - score of 9 instead of the deserved 10.
I was then waiting for Peter to do it to me in the next end.

i think this is one of the unfairer rules, where you have to score the arrow where it lies in the target face, unless like as previously mentioned if the arrow bounces out off another arrow you get the score of the arrow you hit, being deflected into a nine or even eight sucks. (not that i am good enough to hit another arrow):rofl:

[whiz]

I think it's a good rule actually, otherwise it leads to conjecture about "what I should actually have got"

And without high speed photography, you'll never be able to prove anything, thus leading to more judgement calls...

[Stewie]

Hitting someone's arrows is one thing, at my club the beginners used to hang their bows at the distance they were shooting ( against the side wall ). They stopped doing that since someone's..guess who.. release went off early and shot an arrow through a carbon stabilizer.

I now started using tri spot targets for indoor training, my budget doesn't allow me killing a cartload of nocks and bushings every week :)

[Marcus]

i think this is one of the unfairer rules, where you have to score the arrow where it lies in the target face, unless like as previously mentioned if the arrow bounces out off another arrow you get the score of the arrow you hit, being deflected into a nine or even eight sucks. (not that i am good enough to hit another arrow):rofl:
Apparently some in the 3D circles have been claiming 10's for arrows deflecting off 10's and into the 8. Even touching a fletch and they have been claiming it.
At another 3D shoot I saw a guy clip a tree, the arrow broke into about 4 pieces and the point end landed in the animal, he scored 5 points for it.
Sometimes the rules works for you, sometimes against you. But it is the correct rule.

[2Dogs]

Yes that is one of the Stupid rules of 3D.

If you hit another arrow & cause enough damage to not be able to shoot that arrow, then you may claim the score of that arrow.

It's crap!

ie: 5 archers on a target, all shooting at a turkey at say 35m. Arrows are slapping into each other.

You get to the target and 2 arrows have broken nocks. One is in the 10 & the other is an 8. The other arrows are 10,8,5.

The guy who shot the 5 reckons he bounced off the 10..... or did he :D

It's a very very subjective rule which should be removed.

Everything may be nicey nicey at Club level, but if your shooting the Nats in the top group fighting it out for a Plane ticket to the USA........well there's going to be a blue! :thumb:

I remember having a Blue with OldDog after he tried to cliam just that :D

[Freeman]

How do those guys live with themselves.... thats nuckin futs

[rachel]

My dad did that at the Australia Day shoot a few years ago (he's a Veteran so it doesn't matter). One of his points stayed in the target when he pulled the arrow out, and he forgot about it and shot the arrow again without the point. Of course the arrow went sailing over the target, but he argued that he should score where the point lied (pity it was a 6 or 7). Didn't change the outcome of the results, nobody got hurt and the guys he was shooting with took it all in good fun.

[GuyDawg9]

i heard the story that tim cuddiy did it once. his arrow actually went through the side of a arrow that was in the ten and his arrow ended up on an agle pointing towards the eigth ring

[rachel]

My dad's was shooting clout many, many moons ago, and someone else hit the clout and turned it sideways and dad managed to hit the arrow that was in the clout. His arrow ended up out in the 2. He wasn't happy but he accepted it. The arrow in the clout was stuffed tho and the owner wasn't happy.

[rachel]

Mike, Mike, are you there Mike? You'd know about hitting arrows in the target.

[Dr Phil]

Yes that is one of the Stupid rules of 3D.


LOL. That is friggn stupid. Is that for real? Is that just OZ or in the US as well?

[2Dogs]

I believe that's an IBO rule.

I'd have to check if it's still effective, as the rules have been modified lately.

[STRINGWALKER]

everyone should have their own animal target.....4 shooters = 4 targets.. no arguments then!
As i am the local foam animal distributor please direct all enquiries to........1800 eat sht.
Although here in lies the dilema..at the Nats you shoot last and nail the shot all the way, except for the last 18 inches where you hit a nock and deflect into the 8...this could happen.... is this "sa la vie" or is there a case??

[2Dogs]

If the arrow you hit is damaged so that the archer cannot shoot it....... you get a 10

YAY! for you :D

[DKW]

Last weekend at a club 3D shoot I shot an arrow that hit another arrow in the
10 ring and deflected into the 8 ring. Everyone in my group saw it and it was
very clear upon closer inspection what had happened. (cracked nock, angled arrow etc, stc)
I was pretty pissed off because this 8 denied me a round of 100!
At this point in time I was unaware of the 'deflection' rule so I took it on the
chin and continued. Now that I know of this rule, I honestly can't make up
my mind as to whether or not I would claim it, at any event.