Stabilizers

[Marcus]

What are people's opinions on Stabilizers? What have you shot and what do you prefer? Reasons for your preference?
I tend to like a long (30-36") rod with 1-2 weights max on the end. Not too heavy and still makes the bow tip. Usually shoot an Easton Aluminium rod.
Also anyone tried the Vibracheck rods?

[Kuru]

I've tried many different ones over the years and currently shoot a genesis 5 star multi rod. I prefure a longer one, don't know why just do. I have found the ACE to be the best of the lot, for compound anyway. For recurve I like the shibuya and spigarelli

[Bruce]

at present I am using a black max by easton around the 30 " mark . not much weight on the end .

I think the rod should be not much longer than your draw length . as it flattens out the triangle of force to much and causes the bow to float more . that is my opinion any way and remember most of my experience is unmarked Field.

[James Park]

I use a fairly old an ancient Easton carbon rod about 30 inches long (I think), with not much weight on it.
I aim to have the stabiliser achieve three things:
- Provide increased rotational inertia to the bow.
- Let me get the bow's centre of mass in the correct place.
- Provide an additional means of removing energy from the bow after the shot.

[McDoof]

Hi everyone...

I like beiter stabilizers. At the moment I'm shooting a 33"centralizer (mono stabilizer) with an 4"extension. At the centralizer there is only one weight on it.

If I could do so I would change over to a 37"centralizer without any weight on it.

In my opinion longer rods do make the bow softer and I like that...

[StevenB]

For my recurve I am shooting Win & Win Fomax long rod (30" with a medium doinker and 2 easton weights) and side rods (with 1 easton weight each) ,4" cartel carbon exstension. I also use an alloy top rod (about 6" with a TFC and 1 easton weight)

For my compound i currently have a cartel mutlistick long rod with one weight. It is 32" but i plan to get a set of the .24" AFC carbon shafts and experiment with the weight ,also considering a set of side rods.

1 member at my club is also experimenting with almost .25kg of weight on his long rod and side rods

Tenzone has some documents on stabilizers http://www.tenzone.u-net.com/Equipment/index.htm

[Marcus]

1 member at my club is also experimenting with almost .25kg of weight on his long rod and side rods


This has been tried by many and most find that it's great for a while, then you get very tired. By the time you are strong enough to shoot all day the advantages of the extra weight are gone, so add more.

[Bruce]

We have all forgotten the most important thing when selecting the length of stabilizer.


It must be comfortable to lean on whilst waiting to shoot . no good if you have to bend over to far to have a rest on your bow :P :wink: :lol:

I read an article by a u.s barebower Nancy Gordon and she stipulated that this was the most important thing when selecting a stabiliser

[mike]

Yes, I find it quite irritating that my stabilizer (a fairly short easton aluminium tube with a small weight at the front) does not provide a good leaning post between shots.

I've noticed that those long Beiter Centralizers are especially good in this regard, Bryce Lee can often be seen leaning against his bow at tournaments.

It might be worth buying a new one just for that purpose... :)

[Marcus]

Agree, unless I can lean on it I'm not interested.

Bruce, I use to shoot with Nancy, fantastic person, good shooter. Her and her husband shot at DVA for years. Shot barebow with long rods and did string walking. I think his name was Ralph. Good shooters.

[Bruce]

Yes Marcus both were extremely good archers . They were good friends with Laurie Bowman as well we all shot Barebow IFAA at the time but Nancy left us for dead shooting over 510 for a field round .

I have just recently got there email address and have spoke to them for the first time in years . Infact they had to email Helen at your club to try and remember me :-? How could somebody forget my face :wink:

[Marcus]

Yeah I don't know how they'ld forget you. Laurie was the guy with the 2 dogs right? How is he going?
Shot IFAA yesterday, love that round, will have to shoot teh GTB course again when it's running.

[Kuru]

Would be interested to know if anyone who has a multi rod has actually been able to change their arrow grouping like it's advertised. I know "if it's advertised it must be true" NOT but still, would like to know if anyone has been able to get them to work. Apart from that they are a fun "gadget" stabilizer !

[Marcus]

Many claim yes, and many claim no. The only one that I think was a good idea is one I'm hoping to sell online soon. It's a multirod that you can adjust the length of. Quite nice and well made by a guy at my club. Pictures soon.

[Kuru]

Marcus, you mean like a telescopic rod ? Either way it sounds interesting ! One thing I find really good on the genesis is the ability to adjust the weight bias away or closer to the bow, you can get the balance really nice after only a few mins of playing around. Let me know when you have some pics and results of this new stabilizer

[StevenB]

I am confused at the moment by multistick stabilisers ,I have been told that you should use weights on them ,that you shouldnt use weights ,they only work if their really long (eg 35" to 45") ,that you losen all the modules (except the ends) and shoot a few ends to allow the modules to find the node points. :-?

Can anyone help me or is my confusion going to get worse?

[Marcus]

Gareth
Results are good so far. I'm not shooting one as I prefer a alloy rod and my bow doesn't need shock removal. However quite a few others are using them and quite happy. I believe that Alan Williamson and Alan Carter are bothusing them and my Dad is as well. Yes it's telescopic.

Steve
The truth with multirods are that they are cheaper for companies to produce. With the exception of companies with the ability to make alloy rods. 30-36" light weight alloys tubes are expensive unless you make them while carbon rods are cheap, then you have the bits that hold them together which are also easy to make.
As for designed to produce optimim resonance when the weight is set at the major node point, sounds like untestable rubbish to me.

[StevenB]

So just marketing hype.

I think that I will give them a go on my recurve soon to see if I can feel any difference.

[GaryH]

Mr Dude,
Some good info here!!

[Kuru]

Steven let me know how the multi rods work on the recurve. I'm just using an old easton stabilizer until I decide on what to get. The cartel AC ones look quite nice and you can get stabilizer, v bars, extender for less then an ACE long rod. The beiter centralizer looks the goods

[foo]

It's times like this you wish you lived in Europe or could afford the plane trip to visit the Werner & Iris centre.. Test out all the different combinations of beiter centralizers on their 70m indoor range... mmmmm.. :o

[Pete]

I use a cartel/doosung stabaliser system on my recurve. Including long rod and v bar. It works quite nicely.

[marty]

I make my own multi-rod stabilizers. The rods are kite sticks, so can be bought in long lengths. I start out with 48 inch rods. I make the disks out of plastic backgammon pieces.

I use roughly the same spacing that Beiter uses. Beiter says that most people who experiment with the spacing go back to their spacing. You can adjust the overal stiffness of the rod by more disks or placing them closer together.

I did a little experimenting with length and decided that I like longer lengths without an end weight.

I found that on follow through that the top of the bow went to the right (I'm right handed). I added a short rod to the left so that the balance is straight up and down on follow through.

For about 80 USD I made two long rods, three short rods (one for the compound, two for the recurve) and a very short rod on top for the recurve.