DVA's 290+ Indoor shooters

[Marcus]

It's quite possible DVA has the most archers who have shot 290+ indoor in the last 2 years. Here is the list

Luke Eberbach: 300
Ray Morgan: 299
Alan Williamson: 299
Marcus Anear: 298
David Anear: 298
Colin Carter: 298
Alan Carter: 298
Jarrad Alston: 298
Sten Nigol: 298
Cameron Brewer: 297
Faye Waterman: 297
Erika Anear: 296
Michael Pless: 295
Mal Marshall: 294
Marilyn Taylor: 293
Greg Lander: 292
Hayley Eberbach: 291
Karina Marshall: 291

That's 18 shooters, plus at least 3 more on the cusp of shooting it soon.
Well done guys, keep up the good work.

[CMB50]

That there is damn impressive....... 8)

[Eberbachl]

Go Team DVA! :D

[James Park]

Sherbrooke could claim:
Jim Park, Leigh Cornish, Bryce Lee, Michael Robinson, Zoe Leviston, Bernie Andrews

[robbo]

But how many can claim 299+? :wink:

[2Dogs]

not bad for a bunch of Mexican inbreds :D

[James Park]

But how many can claim 299+? :wink:
From Sherbrooke: Jim Park, Bryce Lee, Leigh Cornish, Bernie Andrews

[Marcus]

At this point only three robbo, but we can claim 9 who have done 298. Not bad.

[mike]

But how many can claim 299+? :wink:
From Sherbrooke: Jim Park, Bryce Lee, Leigh Cornish, Bernie Andrews

I think it should be 298+, then you could include me as well. Bloody discrimination I say!!

I think Zoe's is 297.

[Marcus]

But how many can claim 299+? :wink:
From Sherbrooke: Jim Park, Bryce Lee, Leigh Cornish, Bernie Andrews

I think it should be 298+, then you could include me as well. Bloody discrimination I say!!

I think Zoe's is 297.
Man that's a nice score from Zoe, you guys are shooting some nice indoor at the moment!

[Zoe]

I think Zoe's is 297.
Man that's a nice score from Zoe, you guys are shooting some nice indoor at the moment!

Yes, 297 is a nice score. Unfortunately, Mike's talking absolute bollocks :lol:
I think I've only shot a 290. :o (297 in spirit shooter perhaps)

[robbo]

I think it should be 300+. :D

Even I've shot 453, and thats barebow. :roll:


Oh, you're talking about the Aussie round, only 30 arrows. :oops:

[Eberbachl]

Yep, we're talking about the Aust1 indoor round Robbo.

The X ring on the IFAA indoor round is about the size of the ten on the FITA indoor face, the X ring on the FITA indoor face is bloody small :D.

Most of the people in the lists above shoot 300 regularly on the IFAA indoor round. :bday:

[robbo]

I know, I'm just fooling around. :P

[robbo]

Accually I was talking about the FITA round, inner 10 scoring, but 60 arrows. :D

[Marcus]

Best on inner 10 round robbo is 576, and that was done despite being a skilless sighted shooter. ;)

[Eberbachl]

Ahh... OK - I see :D

Not sure what my PB for the indoor FITA 60 arrow inner ten round is. Shot 574 (or was it 572?) on Sunday for it - so I guess 'cause I can't remember my PB that's my new PB :D.

[robbo]

I see there is a barebow Tournament record on the AA site for a FITA 1 536.

[Marcus]

I think that's outter 10 as well. I think only sighted compound shoot inner 10.

[robbo]

My kids and myself had to shoot inner 10 at the state titles in Katoomba.

When I questioned one of the judges, and told him I was told that it was outer 10, he quickly told me that I and whoever told me that, was wrong. :-?

Outer 10, I might have cracked 500. :wink:

[Clare Barnes]

My kids and myself had to shoot inner 10 at the state titles in Katoomba.

When I questioned one of the judges, and told him I was told that it was outer 10, he quickly told me that I and whoever told me that, was wrong. :-?

Outer 10, I might have cracked 500. :wink:

Take an AA rule book to the next shoot with you I think robbo, and highlight the BBC rounds - Barebow Compound definitely shoot outer 10. Marcus is right - ONLY compound shoot Inner 10 according to AA rules and for AA records.

Don't let them (organisers or judges) tell you it is a FITA event and therefore you have to be treated as a sighted compound - if it worked that way longbows or crossbows couldn't shoot the event as FITA doesn't recognise them for Indoor at all! :D

However, if you want to claim FITA Target Awards (which start at 500 for Indoor) you must follow FITA Rules which means you are a Compound (as FITA does not recognise BBC) and therefore would shoot the Inner 10! :-?

It's unfair on you and your kids as AA records could have perhaps been set - by shooting the wrong field pegs at the State Field your U14 son shot an U16 record! :D Just think what he may have done to the U14 record had he shot white pegs! :-? :D

[robbo]

I guess I will just have to get hold of a rule book and read it. :roll:

I have 2 kids in the U14s, one will get another chance next year, from the right distance hopefully.

Daniel, who shot the record will turn 14 in December, so I think he goes up to the U16s as soon as he turns 14. Is that right?

[mike]

I have never shot an official FITA Indoor, but have worked out a score based on Xs for an Aus1. My best for 30 Arrows would be 289 and for 60 I think is about 575, so I've got a LONG WAY TO GO in the FITA side of things!!

[Eberbachl]

Yep, that FITA indoor round sure is tough isn't it Mike!

I think the AUST indoor round is a bit of a confidence booster - but you soon plummet back to earth when you start scoring inner 10 :lol:

My best double Aust indoor round = 598

My best FITA indoor = 574

...I suck :D

[mike]

Yep, my best double Aus1 was at the State Indoor this year and that was only a 591 (297 + 294) but because of the old 23s it came out as I think a 575 FITA. Just goes to show that with fat aluminium arrows most of your 10s turn out to be Xs anyway.

I find it hard to maintain my concentration in indoor because I get bored, particularly after more than 30 arrows (look at the above score 297 followed by a bummer 294 that incidentally put me from 1st place to 4th where I stayed for the rest of the weekend :cry: )

[Eberbachl]

Yeah, I enjoy drilling spots indoor - but I reckon it's one of the toughest rounds there is.

The expectation of accuracy is huge, and it's easy to be too hard on yourself when you don't get a ten. Alot like Zoe said in another thread.

....but still - we keep doing it to ourselves :D

[James Park]

I have a suspicion it would be better if we changed the Archery Victoria State Championship round to FITA rather than AA. That is: inner 10 for compounders.

[Marcus]

I believe that Geelong is putting in a motion to do just that for next year Jim.
BTW our state indoor is 2 weeks after the National indoor. kinda silly.

[2Dogs]

I think you guys in Vic are the only ones still shooting an AUS1 round and not a FITA round.

Yep inner 10 sucks :D.....mainly because I am no good at it D::D:D

My best was at our State indoor 575......all I got out of that was a Red Badge & 4th spot :wink:

......but I do love just popping those inners

[CMB50]

I'd imagine the way people approached the two rounds would differ also. Example, Aust1 indoor round we all know a 300 is attainable, so we put so much pressure on ourselves to shoot that 300 round and are dissapointed when we drop arrows out of the 10.
The Fita round, is similar to shooting outside. While we are still trying to shoot a perfect round (as we should be all the time) dropping the odd arrow out of the 10 isn't as big a deal because it is almost expected.
Mentally, i think they are two very different rounds.

[Marcus]

Well add 2 more to the list.

Forgot to mention Ian Gilchrist who has shot 290 quite a few times at the club (have not seen him much recently, so forgot. Sorry dude.)

And tonight Kenneth Pedersen, a new wheelchair archer at our club, shot his first 290 round. Well done.

That's 20!

(of course it helps having an indoor range 6 days a week)

[Eberbachl]

Well done guys! Great stuff :D

[Robert de Bondt]

Take an AA rule book to the next shoot with you I think robbo, and highlight the BBC rounds - Barebow Compound definitely shoot outer 10. Marcus is right - ONLY compound shoot Inner 10 according to AA rules and for AA records.

Don't let them (organisers or judges) tell you it is a FITA event and therefore you have to be treated as a sighted compound - if it worked that way longbows or crossbows couldn't shoot the event as FITA doesn't recognise them for Indoor at all! :D



You are right on there Clare and it is again a case of a Judge not knowing the rules. Unfortunately, it reflects then on all Judges. I will bring this to the attention of the NSW Judges Coordinator Ken Payne so it will not happen in future.
As you said FITA recognises only Recurve and Compound for Indoor and even the FITA Standard Bow is not recognised for Indoor. There were specific classes nominated for BB compound, which then comes under AA Rules, which states in part , "..with the inner 10 being the only area to score 10 when shooting compound equipment in FITA designated rounds."

[Zoe]

Well a sun-burnt and champagne-soaken Jim Park turned up (late) to our monthly indoor tonight, fresh from chatting up glamorous women in his corporate tent at Oaks day, and shot a 300...bloody typical :roll:

Dean Anderson (15y/o) shot a PB 292 - impressive. With one per month we have to make them count! So for 290+ we now stand at:

Jim Park
Leigh Cornish
Bryce Lee
Michael Robinson
Zoe Leviston
Bernie Andrews
Dean Anderson

(might be more I don't know about). We have a long way before we catch you though DVA :x

[Marcus]

Yeah Dean shot a 291 at the State Indoor, which was a U16 record, lucky too, Sten broke it the round earlier with a 290. ;)
Dean's shooting well at the moment, good to see.

Now the question is, did Jim use 3 different arrow sizes and one of the bare shaft? That's what we want him to use at the state indoor next year.

[James Park]

Well a sun-burnt and champagne-soaken Jim Park turned up (late) to our monthly indoor tonight, fresh from chatting up glamorous women in his corporate tent at Oaks day, and shot a 300...bloody typical

Someone had to do it (chat up glamorous women at Oaks Day, that is). I even got paid for the day.
I shot at DVA last night and continue to be impressed with their enthusiasm and determination to have fun and shoot well. Not sure how many were shooting their indoor last night but it was quite full.

[Marcus]

Only 15 last night Jim. :(
Top scores were
Myself: 296 + 292
Michael Pless: 295
Luke: 292+290
Mal Marshall: 291+290
Sten: 290

Off night for us.

BTW nice 300 23x last night.......you are now banned :lol:

[Eberbachl]

Yes, nice shooting indeed Jim.

I think banning Jim is a bit harsh though Marcus!

Perhaps, just ban him from shooting :lol:

Coaching is much appreciated :D

Just kidding!

:bday:

[James Park]

What amazes me is:
- pretty easy 300 on Thursday evening
- very easy 300 on Friday evening (none even near the line)
- really could not hit the thing today at all, quite hopeless, low 330's at 70M at best, shooting with Zoe and Mike (although we did not score - it would have been too depressing)
(actually it doesn't amaze me, been there before lots of times with good shooting one day, not so flash the next).

[Eberbachl]

What amazes me is:
- pretty easy 300 on Thursday evening
- very easy 300 on Friday evening (none even near the line)
- really could not hit the thing today at all, quite hopeless, low 330's at 70M at best, shooting with Zoe and Mike (although we did not score - it would have been too depressing)
(actually it doesn't amaze me, been there before lots of times with good shooting one day, not so flash the next).

Good to great shooting one day, not so flash the next is damn frustrating isn't it!

If only I could explain why that was it happens each time it happens, I'd be much happier :D

But, that's archery I guess. All part of the fun :lol:

[Marcus]

Well DVA aded another 290+ shooter to the ranks with 16 year old Nicole Pless shooting her first one on Monday night. (bang on 290)
Nicole shoots a Hoyt Ultratec, SureLoc Challnger, Zenith X-Cel release, Golden Key Premiere rest, Ron's Rod Stabilizer and Cartel X-Perts

[Eberbachl]

Well done Nicole!

290 indoor is a great milestone - you'll only grow from there :)

:bday:

[Flame]

wish I could shoot 290 :(

[Marcus]

It's something you learn dude, not born with (that's why DVA has 20+ shooters who have done it)

[Marcus]

Updated list

Luke Eberbach: 300
Ray Morgan: 299
Alan Williamson: 299
Marcus Anear: 299
David Anear: 298
Colin Carter: 298
Alan Carter: 298
Jarrad Alston: 298
Sten Nigol: 298
Faye Waterman: 297
Erika Anear: 296
Michael Pless: 295
Cameron Brewer: 294
Mal Marshall: 294
Marilyn Taylor: 293
Ian Gilcrist: 293
Greg Lander: 292
Hayley Eberbach: 291
Karina Marshall: 291
Kenneth Pedersen: 290
Nicole Pless: 290

[Flame]

is this inner or outer ten?

[Marcus]

Outer 10
To my knowledge the only ones who have done it on the inner 10 are

Marcus Anear: 295
Luke Eberbach: 293
Ray Morgan: 292
Alan Williamson: 291

[Marcus]

Updated list

Outter 10
Luke Eberbach: 300 (4)
Alan Williamson: 300 (2 in a row!)
Marcus Anear: 300 (1)
Ray Morgan: 299
David Anear: 298
Colin Carter: 298
Alan Carter: 298
Jarrad Alston: 298
Sten Nigol: 298
Cameron Brewer: 297
Faye Waterman: 297
Erika Anear: 296
Michael Pless: 295
Mal Marshall: 294
Marilyn Taylor: 293
Ian Gilcrist: 293
Greg Lander: 292
Hayley Eberbach: 291
Karina Marshall: 291
Kenneth Pedersen: 290
Nicole Pless: 290

Inner 10
Marcus Anear: 295
Luke Eberbach: 294
Ray Morgan: 292
Alan Williamson: 291

[Marcus]

Another to add to the list is Zoe Leviston who shot a 298 at DVA last night. She's technically not a DVA member, but for this one we claim the rights. Nice shooting Zoe.

[James Park]

Zoe's 298 is the highest by a Victorian lady, so far as I am aware. Beat her PB by 7.

[Eberbachl]

Well done Zoe, great shooting! :D

[Marcus]

Rita Evans has the National record with a 298 and she was a victorian then.
Seriously good shooting. Noticed she kept hitting the 10 for the rest of the night also.
Would have been good to see what Mike would have shot recurve. He was getting good bullet holes while 'steel testing' last night. ;)

[mike]

Would have been good to see what Mike would have shot recurve. He was getting good bullet holes while 'steel testing' last night. ;)

Hey, it takes skill to hit the exact center of a piece of steel tubing -- especially with a recurve bow! :)

[James Park]

Mike's "steel test" was indeed very impressive. It was a "steel tear" to compete with the best of all "paper tears". What was also impressive was that the Triple survived extremely well - not even a bent point.
As Mike noted, it was also quite impressive that he managed to conduct the test at all: he had to hit dead centre of a 19mm wide bar at 16M, and using a recurve bow he had never previously shot, with compound-size arrows.

[coach]

Excuse my ignorance but isn't indoor shot at 18 meters ? :oops:

[James Park]

Excuse my ignorance but isn't indoor shot at 18 meters ? :oops:
Absolutely, but the steel bar just happened to be at 16M.

[Rodger]

Mike's "steel test" was indeed very impressive. It was a "steel tear" to compete with the best of all "paper tears". What was also impressive was that the Triple survived extremely well - not even a bent point.
As Mike noted, it was also quite impressive that he managed to conduct the test at all: he had to hit dead centre of a 19mm wide bar at 16M, and using a recurve bow he had never previously shot, with compound-size arrows.

But why? :-?

[CMB50]

Sounds like an ill-timed release or a rather long and inaccurate paper tuning attempt

[Marcus]

Kane last night shot a 288 with his 60lb Supertec, short stabilizer and Copper John Pin sights. Pretty impressive shooting with a hunting rig. Over the 60 arrows only put 3 outside of the gold.

Nice shooting Kane, should hit the 290+ mark pretty soon.


Also Diane Carter fell just short also last week posting a 287.

[Eberbachl]

Nice work People.

288 with pins on Kane's SuperTec is a nice score :wink:

[CMB50]

I took the liberty of updating my indoor PB!

Shot a 297 16X tonight with the bowtech, which for me is a good indoor score....i don't like indoor much, but i dislike it less wihen i shoot PB's!

The bowtech was really putting the arrows exactly where i was aiming them.....nice.

[Eberbachl]

Now you really need those X7's :D

Nice shooting dude :wink:

[Marcus]

Yeah good shooting man, that Bowtech is really nice, impresive when you hear it go off.

[Flame]

Great stuff Cam :D

[Marcus]

Updated List

Outter 10
Luke Eberbach: 300
Alan Williamson: 300
Marcus Anear: 300
Michael Pless: 300
Sten Nigol: 300
Ray Morgan: 299
David Anear: 298
Colin Carter: 298
Alan Carter: 298
Jarrad Alston: 298
Faye Waterman: 297
Cameron Brewer: 297
Erika Anear: 296
Eric Nigol: 296
Mal Marshall: 294
Ron Rowe: 294
Marilyn Taylor: 293
Ian Gilcrist: 293
Greg Lander: 292
Hayley Eberbach: 291
Karina Marshall: 291
Kenneth Pedersen: 290
Nicole Pless: 290

Inner 10
Marcus Anear: 295
Luke Eberbach: 294
Ray Morgan: 292
Alan Williamson: 291

[Eberbachl]

Great shooting Ron and Eric :D

Well done!

[Flame]

Good stuff guys :D

[Marcus]

Well done to Mike Pless who shot his first 300 (17x) on Friday night and to Sten Nigol who shot a 299. Great shooting guys!

[Flame]

Great stuff :D

[Marcus]

Add Sten Nigol to the list of 300 shooters, still only 14 and already reached this milestone tonight, well done dude! :D

[Mike13]

Damnit why wasn't I told.

Well done Sten, that's freakin awesome shooting. :wink:

[Marcus]

Damnit why wasn't I told.

Well done Sten, that's freakin awesome shooting. :wink:He did it after you left, he drilled his last 3 shots, great to watch. I imagine he'll shoot plenty more of these.

[Mike13]

Bugger. Would have liked to have seen that. Oh well - you want to live in the best trailer park you have to travel.
At least there where no side trips this time so we got back around midnight. LOL
I imagine he'll shoot plenty more of these.
Damn straight.

[Kane]

Well done Sten! What was his innner 10 score Marcus?

[chopper]

Great shooting Sten :D

[Juggs]

as well good shooting.

but why do you guys shoot the aus-1 round, would practising on the fita round help more when attending the nats ,

[Marcus]

We shoot both rounds quite often. We are shooting the FITA for league at the moment and the Aust1 for other club shoots. Given Sten won the Indoor Nats this year I don't think it's held him back at all. :D

[Marcus]

Updated List

Outer 10
Luke Eberbach 300
Marcus Anear 300
Alan Williamson 300
Michael Pless 300
Sten Nigol 300
Leigh Cornish 300
Ray Morgan 299
David Anear 298
Colin Carter 298
Alan Carter 298
Jarrad Alston 298
Faye Waterman 297
Cameron Brewer 297
Erika Anear 296
Eric Nigol 296
Mal Marshall 294
Ron Rowe 294
Marilyn Taylor 293
Ian Gilcrist 293
Greg Lander 292
Hayley Eberbach 291
Karina Marshall 291
Kenneth Pedersen 290
Nicole Pless 290
David Reid 290

Inner 10
Marcus Anear 295
Leigh Cornish 295
Luke Eberbach 294
Alan Williamson 293
Ray Morgan 292
Erika Anear 290
Sten Nigol 290


275+ Recurve Indoor
Karina Marshall 289
Erika Anear 287
David Anear 286
Neil Turner 280

[CMB50]

Welcome to the list Chopper!!!!

[chopper]

Thanx Cam,
9 times at 289, then I shot 2 290s last night. :o

[Alan]

Well done chopper you tried hard.Now300 just round the corner!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chopper]

Thanx Alan, Might have to wait for the Ovation to get to 300 :D

[Marcus]

Well Leigh Cornish's first indoor shoot as a DVA member and he pops in
299 19x
300 25x :o

Nice shooting!!! Should make 2005 a tough competitive year at DVA.

[chopper]

Nice :o