SOUTHERN GRAMPIANS ARCHERS 2004 2 DAY ABA SHOOT

[bowhunter]

Here we go again SGA have the following shoot coming up in Feb, all that made the trip over here last November for our first ABA Shoot had a ball and enjoyed the challange of the 2 courses that we shot and said they would be back for our next. It was a bit disapointing on the lack of numbers so we are hoping for a better roll up to this the 1st ABA shoot for THE GREATER VICTORIAN BRANCH in the year of 2004. So if you are up to the challange and itching for a enjoyable week-end of archery come along.



2 Day ABA SHOOT 21st – 22nd Feb 2004
Hosted by
Southern Grampians Archers

G.V.BranchFirst 2 day shoot for the year of 2004

Saturday Bowcheck 9.00 am
Muster 9.30 am
Start 10.00 am
3 Arrow Round
Lunch
1 Arrow Round
Novelty Shoots in the evening
(BRING OLD ARROWS)
Evening meal will be available

Sunday Muster 9.00 am
Start 9.30 am
3 Arrow Round
Lunch
1 Arrow Round
Presentations

Facilities …. Showers, Camping, Toilets and Canteen. Fishing is also available in the Wannon River So bring rod and lures if you wish .

Pre-registrations to :
Frank Simko PO Box 706 Melton Vic 3337
E mail gvbscorer@bigpond.com.au
Fax 97470165
Phone 03 97435437

For More Info Contact … Geoff Haines on 0355279119
Or Email -- geoff.haines@alcoa.com.au

[Bruce]

See you there Bowhunter , Looking forward to sharing your hospitality again :D

And I am not going to shoot in that long shot again , bloody tree's are to low for the supertec :(

[bowhunter]

Bruce we will supply a cushion for you to kneel on OK. Accra tec up to 2 hares, 6 rabbits and 8 goats.,

[Brad]

Wayne,

I'll be there for sure this time (not leaving my camera with the samba again).

Will try to get some more from BMB to come over too.

Looking forward to it.

Brad

[Bruce]

Hey all , Who is making the trek up to Hamilton this weekend for the first 2 Day shoot of the year ?

I will be up there on Friday Evining , GOt the supertec humming with 2512 alloys , First time I will shoot alloys at a shoot out of my compound in 6 years , but these big suckers are flying really well and suprisingly flat .

Remember to take plenty of Water because it could get mighty warm up there


Bruce

[Brad]

Mara and I will be there. Can't wait.

[darthfik]

A little more notice next time please. :D

[Brad]

This thread was started on 10th Jan!!

Sorry if you missed it then.

BMB will be host a 2Day shoot on 20+21st march. With one ABA paper round and one modified IBO 3D round.

Be there or be.....................

[Bruce]

I think that you will enjoy there courses Brad , Looking forward to catching up with you .

Darth , if you are a member of gvb , let me have your email address and I will forward you a branch calender


Bruce

[bowhunter]

Bruce, Brad and Mara looking forward to seeing you all on the week end looks like the temps are going to be in the mid 20s . Hope to see a few more that use this site show up to support us, we have travelled to do so for other clubs and take on the challange of our course,s

[Bruce]

Bit dissapointing Bowhunter , but we will have a good time . Sometimes I don't think people like to travel out of there comfort zone .


I will see you Friday evening , after my traditional Pizza Stop on the way



BRuce

[Bruce]

Just got home from a great weekend of archery , Great venue , Great people (well most of them) Great weekend.

Many new people experienced the hills for the first time and it freaked a few out .

The courses were in very good nick and it is a credit to the members of the Southern Grampians Club.

See you all Soon


Bruce

[Brad]

Had a great time at SGA over the weekend.

REALLY good courses. The fellas down there have done a fantastic job.

Anyone who didn't make it certainly missed out on a top weekend. Especially the raffle!!!!

[Bruce]

THe Brad , Mara and Barb SHoww :D

Pretty good courses aren't they Brad .

[Brad]

Yeah great courses Bruce. Certainly fun to shoot. Can't wait to shoot 3D there. That will be fantastic!!!!!!

What did you end up shooting???

[Bruce]

I only shot around the 1500 mark . Long time since I looked at the targets , hadn't seen them since November Last year , also shot with a scope for the first time on them , used the wrong sight , I should have taken the Titan 3D off the ultratec and used that , with the bigger body it would have allowed me to see more of the target . I will catch up with Leigh and get another one .

Very happy with the way I shot , all the arrows went pretty much where I aimed them , If only I aimed them in the right place :D

THe 2512 went well, great arrow flight and reasonable speed , Might try and get the poundage up to 67 or 68 # see If I can close the gap up a little . I estimated the distances pretty well but just couldn't find the aiming points .
Looking forward to the BMB shoot


See you there


B

[CMB50]

Bruce. What length are the 2512's and what weight did they finish up at? Wondering wether a slightly heavier, larger alloy might help with line cutting. Did you notice any advantage there?

[Bruce]

they are about 30.5" long and weigh 444gn. they have a 108gn point in them . I did get some points with line cutters , but need to get used to the targets more to see if they really help. I will shoot them for the year and see how they go .

[CMB50]

444gn's? :o

Thats heavy. I imagine that would open your sight gap up considerably compared to say a lightweight carbon. What advantages do the alloys have compared to a carbon?

[James Park]

I have done the maths of large arrows versus small arrows in relation to line cutters.
While you might think that large diameter arrows will get you many more points, that is not the case except where the highest scoring ring is of very small diameter (for example in FITA indoor for compounds where we have to use the inner 10 ring).
Other than FITA indoor for compounds, the gain in line cutting is minimal, and is very much offset by the considerably increased drift if there is any wind. For FITA indoor for compounds I would very definitely use large diameters, for target X10's are clearly the best, for field light-weight arrows are the best (because of slopes and unknown distances).
Happy to share the results from the maths if it is of interest.

[Bruce]

Whilst I agree that a flatter arrow is better for field , the sight gaps for my set up at present coming out of the supertec are approximately 2.7mm for every 5 m. The arrows are coming out of the bow beautifully and as ABA is only shot out to 48 metres , and mainly on well treed field courses I am unconcerned with wind drift . At the weekend we had some quite steady winds in places and I found no real drift in the arrows . Bearing in mind that the targets are unmarked and the score zones are unidetifiable . If you were shooting say IFAA you would notice the wind drift more but I have no intentions of using the 2512 for IFAA only 3D and ABA >

I will try them out again at the next shoot at BMB and see how they go again.

[James Park]

Bruce,
I agree that the X7's will work well for a sheltered ABA course. Quite satisfactory and a reasonable choice.
However, for IFAA with the longer distances I think you would do better to use smaller diameter arrows.

[bowhunter]

Bruce and Brad Glad you enjoyed the week end it went off quite well I think and all seemed to enjoy theirselves . I will get the results off Pete and post them in the next couple of days. Bill and Michael just left , we ended up with one goat each (they gave us a bit of a hard time) Michael got his with that recurve of his.
Wayne

[Bruce]

Good going Bowhunter ,

James totally agree with you, at present I shoot cartels for IFAA , no wind drift with them , shooting with allan using lightspeeds you can see his arrows getting blown around compared to my cartels . I only intend to use the alloys for aba and 3d ,

[bowhunter]

RESULTS FROM SGA 2 DAY 21st & 22nd FEB 2004

The Southern Grampians Archers hosted GVB first 2day ABA shoot for 2004 on the weekend of the 21st – 22nd of Feb.
With the weather turning out good with the temps in the mid 20s made for an enjoyable shoot. Only 35 Archers made the effort to travel over to support us, which was a bit disappointing since the SGA members try to get to as many shoots as possible to support other clubs. The people that did show had a great week-end with some of the new faces that have only shot on flat courses, finding our courses on the slopes of the Wannon River a challenge with the variety of shots that we set up using the lay of the land and the natural flora to the most.
On the Saturday evening the novelty shoots kept every one amused with Mick Kairn taking off the running fox and Brad Murphy the long shot even with him leaving an arrow imbedded in a tree branch around 4 metres from the ground.
Thank you all for making the effort to travel and also for making it a great weekend.

SENIORS BARE BOWMasters
Mick Kairn 336 286 320 286 1228
Michael Conroy 312 248 318 270 1148
Conney Kairn 270 96 268 136 770
A Grade
Brain Duyhoven 326 290 350 318 1284
Peter Lehmann 326 278 296 252 1152
Lorraine Black 318 248 330 250 1146
Bill Clinton 322 250 322 252 1146
B Grade
Barb Kelly 228 274 262 160 924
Joy Hall 238 124 306 154 822
Jenny Trew 184 120 250 120 674
C Grade
Geoff Carter 150 160 218 118 646
Allan Fenny 228 162 164 84 638
SENIOR LONGBOW
C GradePeter Keiller 120 186 188 188 682
Geoff Mibus 142 200 130 136 608
D GradeSimon Kairn 66 132 86 96 380
Michael Clinton 16 128 32 74 250
SENIOR FLIGHTS
Freestyle Unlimited F1
Bruce Kelleher 380 370 370 370 1490
Keith Chiller 288 290 270 370 1218
Bowhunter Unlimited F1
Brad Murphy 378 388 386 394 1546
Bowhunter Unlimited F2Mara Murphy 332 348 318 322 1320
Allen Woodward 304 342 306 322 1274
Robert Carlton 254 322 228 332 1136
Bowhunter Limited F2
Gary Hollander 350 362 332 348 1392
Eric Hardy 356 324 344 362 1386
Wayne Rantall 330 340 348 362 1380

CUBS
A Grade
Sam Haines 276 292 294 318 1180
B Grade
Ryan Carlton 214 272 180 290 956
C Grade
Tim Meulendyks 198 174 178 304 854
D Grade
Eloise Haines 138 122 174 138 572