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Marcus
11-08-2002, 10:10 PM
Well there are 3 weeks left in the winter league now with things really hotting up.
In the indoor league Erika has powered ahead with 13% higher than 2nd place. If she can keep around the 289-292 mark or the rest of the way she'll be tough to beat.
2nd place is a battle between Alan Carter and Marcus :), locked in at 7% each. Marcus is ahead on X's at this point 118 to 110.
However anything can happen indoor wise. Alan Williamson was looking like taking out the whole thing untill a 286 and a 280 sent him to 2nd last. Our last 2 leagues have seen similar last minute drops by a top placed shooter, who will it be this time?
Leaders are:
Handicap: Erika Anear, 20%
Outright score: Alan Carter, 4018
X Count: Alan Williamson, 119
Single round: Alan Williamson, 297 16x's
Outdoor league took a major turn when the top placed shooter failed to qualify (80% of rounds must be shot). In harsh winds Sten Nigol shot 11% of his handicap to move to first place. No 'Perth' senior shot a positive % score on the day allowing Sten to nudge forward. However he will have to work hard to keep it with only 7% seperating the top 9 places. For many shooters dropping 7% is dropping about 4 points under average. That's close competition. Should Sten take out this event it will be his second league win from 3 shot.
Leaders are:
Handicap: Sten Nigol, 7%
Outright score: Marcus Anear, 814 ave
X Count: Sten Nigol, 83
Single round: Marcus Anear, 838
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Robert Halley-Frame
12-08-2002, 07:56 AM
Marcus,
Would be interested in how you set up your league rounds, and the handicap system that you use. If we could get consistancy around the clubs with such a league maybe it could be expanded?
:D :D
Marcus
12-08-2002, 08:44 AM
We were going to run a joint indoor league with Yarra Valley, then they joined our club so that didn't happen.
Leagues are based on a system created by Colin Carter, and after 6 leagues run (3 indoor and 3 outdoor) I have no intention of changing. Here is how they work...
Archer shoots 3 rounds. These are then averaged and their handicap is based on how many points to reach perfect. IE Fred shoot 285, 290 and 295 indoors. His average is 290 and thus his handicap is 10.
He then shoots a real round. Now his 'score' is his percentage of his average shot. So if he shoots a 292, that is 2 above average, and 20% of his handicap. So his score is 20.
If he shot a 288 that is 2 under average which is -20.
After a few rounds your average may go up or down, and that take effect. After 5 rounds your average is based on taking your last 5 rounds shot, removing your highest and lowest, and averaging the middle 3. This means that you won't get too advantaged or disadvantaged by rounds that were abnormal.
Your final score is the average of your percentage from each week.
That is for indoor, only change for outdoor is I only shoot one ranking round. This is because indoor we shoot 2 rounds per night, while outdoor we shoot one.
So far the advantage of this system is that someone shooting 290+ has a chance of winning, but so do shooters shooting 250's. While a 290 shooter only needs to improve by 2 points for a 20% score and a 250 shooter has to improve by 10 for the same, the 290 shooter loses as much on an off night
So far our last winners were
Indoor
David Anear - GMB Compound
Neil Turner - 1st class recurve
Outdoor
Sten Nigol - U12 Compound w fingers
Andrew Talbest - Compound Barebow
This time Sten could win shooting state record scores with a release aid.
We had one shooter cheated in the grading rounds to 'prove' that it could be beaten, however he didn't shoot the rest. I put through 290's into the rest of the weeks to check and he would not have won, even though he shot a 256 in tye grading round. He was winning after week one, but the system takes that into account.
I think the system is awesome, and something that could be used by other clubs for their own systems. I'm happy to talk with other clubs on giving them access to the online version (Colin's was done in Excel and I converted to online. I could not have come up with this system, was not even close, and full credit to it's success should go to him).
Eberbachl
12-08-2002, 09:58 AM
Yep, this really is an awesome handicap system, all too often with such systems the guys at the top, or the guys at the bottom are disadvataged, but this system really does give everybody an equal chance of winning. Well done Colin. I think the great thing about this system is that the archers who show good solid consistent improvement in their shooting are the ones likely to win. We have seen some huge improvements in peoples shooting which I think can be largely attributed to Marcus', and Colins' league...
Would be great to get clubs shooting a league together..... :)
Marcus
17-08-2002, 11:06 PM
Well after this weekend Erika shot a PB for a double indoor to move further ahead, while Sten's playing with a new release aid cost hiim the lead to Faye who was one of only a few to shoot a + score during the outdoor. These leaves the the 2 women leading both leagues.
Indoor Leaders are:
Handicap: Erika Anear, 21%
Outright score: Alan Williamson, 4594
X Count: Marcus Anear, 134
Single round: Alan Williamson, 297 16x's
Outdoor Leaders are:
Handicap: Faye Waterman, 7%
Outright score: Marcus Anear, 812 ave
X Count: Colin Carter, 89
Single round: Marcus Anear, 838
The outdoor standings are changing drastically each week and will most certainly come down to the final week. The indoor league is pretty much a shoe in for Erika if she maintains her average, so the battle will be second place which is still open to anyone.
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