2000 Ultratec

[Nasorean]

Does anyone know if the Ultratec made in 2000 is a good bow? I have found one at a pretty decent price and was wondering if I should go with this or wait for a 2001 model.

Thanks for the info,
Jim

[Marcus]

Did Hoyt make a 2000 UltraTec? I thought the 2001 was the first.
I shoot a 2001 UltraTec and am very happy with it, as does my wife, and she pleased with hers too.
There is not a lot of difference compared to the 2002 UT model.

[Nasorean]

Hi Marcus,

Thanks for the reply. Yes, 2000 was the first year Hoyt made the Ultratec. Here is the info on it from the Hoyt page http://hoytusa.com/technical/charts.tpl?page=00_ultratec.inc

They are a little different in the shape. Here's a (bad) picture.

http://www.nazorean.com/Ultratec2000.jpg

Just wanted to make sure it was a good year and not a flop year before I spend any money on it. I can't afford a new one and this is a good price.

This one has XT2000 limbs and silver #3 command cam (whatever that is).

Thanks a lot, Jim

[marty]

Check out the Hoyt web site in the technical section to make sure that the cams will cover your draw length. With the command cams the wall is a little more solid at the upper end of the draw length than the lower, but okay in all cases.

The only potential problem with the 2000 UT is that the hole for the rest is set up so that the arrow is in an overdraw position. You will have to create an extra long launcher arm to make the rest/bow FITA legal..

[Nasorean]

Thanks for the reply, marty.

The draw length is 28-30 which is perfect for me.
You said, "the wall is a little more solid at the upper end ..."

What is the wall? I am still new to archery. I am just getting back into it after being away for over 15 years or so. There sure are a lot more choices these days than way back then ;)

You said, "You will have to create an extra long launcher arm to make the rest/bow FITA legal.."

What is a launcher arm? Right now, I'm trying to decide what kind of arrow rest I should get if I decide to get this bow. Any suggestions? At this point, I shoot fingers but may eventually try release.

Also, was wondering what kind of stabilizer I should get.

Thanks for helping a newbee.

Jim

[marty]

The Walll:

With the typical compound draw cycle, the weight goes up pretty quickly to the peak weight and then it drops to the holding weight and then it goes back up into "the wall". The area around the hloding weight, the lowest part of the force/draw curve, is called the valley. If the area past the valley goes up in weight really quickly it is called a hard wall.

Many people who shoot with a release like the hard wall since you can pull into the wall for a consistant draw length. Some prefer a not so firm wall and a wide valley. Finger shooters often prefer this configuration, but it is personal preference and I've seen people shoot bows with narrow valleys and hard walls with fingers.

The FITA rules state that the arrow rest must be no further than 4cm behind the pivot point of the grip. With the 2002 Ultratec this ight not be a problem. Some bows have the mounting hole(s) for the rest that are far enough back that you have to modify your rest to make it FITA legal. Measure the UT or get someone to do this for you, just bo be sure. This is assumes you are shooting FITA rules. Many other organizations don't this limit.

A launcher arm is part of a rest often used on a compound bow when shot with a release. Sorry, I made the assumption that you were going to use a release.

My finger bow is a recuve and I use a cushion plunger with a wrap around magnetic flip rest. There are simpler alternatives that cost less and do just as good a job, although I recommend an adjustable plunger regardless. At one point the FITA outdoor record was held by Rick McKinney shooting a Hoyt plastic flipper rest that costa 3 USD.

[Marcus]

My feeling on it is get the 2001 model if you can. The 2000 model looks far too radical for target use with that huge overdraw. Also the 2001 model will be lighter and is suited well towards FITA shooting. The 2000 model looks like a good 3D bow.

[Nasorean]

Thanks for the info, guys. I'm convinced, I want the 2001 model.

Now, anyone know where I can get one?

Jim

[Nasorean]

I found a 2001 Ultratec with XT 2000 limbs and Command Cams in excellent condition for $450. Is this a good price? If so, I think I will get it before someone else does :)

Thanks a lot,
Jim

[Marcus]

Yeah that's a great price. These are good shooting bows when they are setup well.

[marty]

It's a decent price, certainly not a great one. Judging by the location, that's in USD. If the bow is in mint condition, then it is a pretty good price. My opinion of course.

[Nasorean]

I appreciate all the assistance. The guy selling it says it's in mint condition.
Here's a pic he sent me..

http://nazorean.com/Ultratec2001.jpg

Jim

[Eberbachl]

Yep, that price sounds good, I would expect to pay at least $900 AUD here for one, so $450 US sounds fine. Great bow too....you'll love it. :) Good Luck....

[Nasorean]

Thanks a lot, guys. I ordered the bow and should be getting it Friday. Can't wait!

Now, which sight to get ... Sure-Loc Supreme or Challenger? I am going to get a Titan Scope and can't decide which sight to get. The Challenger is much cheaper ($140 US) but is it missing a lot of functionality that the Supreme has? Will I regret not spending the extra money up front?

Also, what release? I've heard so much about them I have no idea which to get. This will be my first release so is one better than the other for a beginner?

Thanks again,
Jim

[Eberbachl]

Hey Nasorean,

Glad to hear that you've ordered the bow...good luck with it!

As far as the sight is concerned, the supreme is a nice sight, and if you can afford it, it is a good option. If however you are considering the challenger, whilst I wont knock it, I beleive that a far superior sight is the Bernadini compound sight and is much better value for money.

My review of the Bernadini compound sight can be found at http://www.dva.asn.au/reviews/article.lasso?id=10177

Many good archers are using this sight with excellent results here, and it is well worth a look.

As far as the release is concerned, that is a difficult question. You will recieve many opinions about which release is better and why. Personally I use a Stanislawski CNC release, which I love. It is a very good quality release, but takes some getting used to and is not for everyone. My best advice on release is to try as many as you can before you buy and get one that you find comfortable. Then attempt to understand the philosophy behind how the release was designed to be shot, and practise doing that. The key here is so long as you buy a good quality release and it is comfortable for you, you will rarely be dissapointed. Be prepared however for change, as most archers in time use many different types of release, invariably ending up with something of a collection!

Cheers,

Luke. :D

[Marcus]

Sights
Spend what you can afford. The Supreme will stay with you for 10 years plus so it's a great investment. Agreed, the Bernadini is great too, and used by many top shooters. Goto www.bowsarrowsbits.com for more info or if you want to mail order one. About $150 US
The Titan scope is a great buy, good choice.

For a release check out the TruBall Tru-tension releases for a excellent quality BT release, or the Tru Ball Sweet Spots. If you go with a trigger they have a great range too. No matter which release you get DO NOT PUNCH IT OR RIP IT OFF. As a new shooter it is vital that you shoot it correctly from day one. If you haven't already, I recommend buying Mastering Compound Bows from our online store, as it covers shooting many different releases well.

Good luck!

:D