Target Peep

[Nasorean]

I am setting up a new bow (yes, I got the UltraTec!!!) and was wondering what is a good peep to use for target shooting. Most of what I see on the net are for hunting.

What are people using with a scope?

And, what size hole ... I've seen mostly the following sized:

1/8" hole
1/16" hole
3/64" hole
1/32" hole

Thanks, Jim

[Kuru]

Congrats on getting the UT, I shot one at a shop and it's a really nice bow. As for peeps Don Kudlacek makes one that is fully adjustable. ie it's a little ball in the middle of the peep that you can rotate to exactly where you want. so it your string likes to twist you just get somebody to move the ball while your at full draw and bang, it's perfect ! Don thinks of everything ! For target most people go for a small a hole as possible. I tried one of those power peeps for a few weeks a while back but when it's sunny all you can see is people behind you, to much glare. I could not see my bubble at 2 different indoor clubs so it was the peep not the lighting

[StevenB]

No help here just want to aks the same question as I plan to go to an unpowered sight(scope but not a scope if you have any idea what I mean) ,I currently have a Fletcher MicroPeep (no idea of size) ,I plan to shoot target and indoor and field with this bow.

[OldDog]

Bit of trial and error required here Nasorean, there are a lot of variables to consider such as, scope diameter scope power distance of scope to peep distance of eye to peep, Most of the target shooters I know go for a peep size that rings their sight while most of the 3d shooters go for something a bit larger to allow a greater field of view and to allow a little more light in, there are several peep kits available that enable you to change the peep size without removing the peep from the string, these are well worth considiring. Cheers

[marty]

Unfortunately, the best way is trial and error. Fortunately you can do a lot of trial and error for very little money.

Buy yourself a peep with the smallest hole you can find, say 1/32 inch. Then, if you aren't Marcus and are allowed to have tools, you can drill the hole out a little larger until you find the right size. Then you can buy yourself a peep with that hole size.

For more money you can get a peep with interchangeable holes.

Here are some general guidelines:

You should be able to see the entire scope body through the peep, including the level. Otherwise you will have to shift your point of view up or down to see the peep.

Generallly, a smaller peep will give you a sharper image. It's like closing down the aperture on a photographic lens.

At the same time, a smaller peep hole will result in a dimmer image, less light will come through the peep.

So, the best peep is the smallest hole that will allow you to see the entire scope body and that will allow enough light through for you to be able to see clearly enough to aim.

This is different for different people and it is different undier differing light conditions. You might find that you can use a smaller peep outdoors since the brighter lighting will allow you to see more clearly.

And then there are clarifier peeps. These are peeps with lenses in them. For some people they really clear up the image through the scope. You can then use a larger peep for and still get a clear image. However, some people actually see worse through a clarifier, so if you decide to buy one, definitely try it out first.

Of course clarifiers aren't without problems. It's another lens that can get dirty or get water on it. Light can glare off of a clarifier as well. Clarifiers come in various powers to match the magnification in the scope. Again, the only way to tell for sure which one works with which scope is trial and error.

It's a mess isn't it?

Right now I've got my Ultratec set up with an 8X scope and a #2 clarifier with a 3/32 inch hole. I can easily see the holes in the target left by my arrows (2312) at 18m.

[Nasorean]

Thanks for the info, Marty. That was very helpful. I have a pretty good idea of what to get now.

I just got a Sure Loc sight and bought a 4X Titan Scope from this forum which I will be using. I did see something called the "Super Peep" made by Specialty Archery's that has interchangable lenses. Maybe that's the best thing to start off with.

Thanks again,
Jim

[James Park]

Nazorean,
Good choice of scope. The Titan is excellent.

[Eberbachl]

Nice post marty, very informative!

Personally I use a Fletcher true peep, small size with my Titan scope and for me it is lovely, the peep size just covers the outer diameter of my scope including bubble etc....no more....no less :)

....and Nasorean, congtrats on getting the UltraTec Have fun! :)

[clever_guy]

Nasorean;

I am using a SAP superpeep. I like it as it comes with a peep set with a variety of peep sizes. Generally a 1/32 is a good choice, but it is dark moving to a larger peep sometimes helps. Also you may find that some peeps work better indoors that outdoors distances, or that you prefer a clarifier indoors. With the SAP system,you just use the little peep wrench and replace the appeture as needed. They are a little pricey though.

-CG

[Jbird]

The info above is right on target for selecting a peep. One thing I would note is that the Specialty Archery Peep although very handy for changing aperature sizes, has a bad reputation when used in 452 strings. BCY 452 with all its wonderful qualities and no stretch is somewhat fragile and the SAP peep has a reputation for creating broken strands when used in 452 strings. I have found that the Fletcher Tru Peep seems to be a little better when using 452. If you want a clarifier, Brite Site sells one that uses the Tru Peep as the base.
Jbird

[marty]

Should have mentioned that clarifiers are going to be more expensive, but that is probably obvious.

I've had the Super Peep in my 452 string since I got my Ultratec. I haven't had that many shots through the bow, but I haven't seen any wear or problems with it. A friend has used an Ultracam string for quite a while and has had no problems. Ultracam is similar to 452 (vectran plus spectra/dyneema). I'll keep an eye on it though. I'll also ask BCY about it, I'm going to order some stuff from them soon anyway.