Fletch Glue for Carbon Shafts

[Jules]

I need to fletch some carbon shafts I just bought but the tube of "Fletch-Tite" I have says:
"Not Recommended for Carbon Shafts"
on the back.

Should I use it anyway? Would the CyanoAcrylite superglue I've been using to fletch my alloy shafts be better?
What should I use if the Fletch-Tite is disastrous?

Thanks!

[Marcus]

It's not disastrous, just may not work.
I use AAE Fastset Gel. Works great!

[Flehrad]

Fletch tite does work on carbons, as we at our club have been using fletch tite on wood, alum and carbon shafts for years.

The secret to getting fletch tite to work well on carbons is better prep of the shaft.

Clean them off with some water, dry it off, then lightly sand it with some fine grain sandpaper (600 gr or 800 should be fine) so that it gives it a good grip surface.

Then wipe off the surface with some acetone, allow it dry, then fletch immediately. This takes off the carbon/laquer coat from the shaft so you get better bonding.

[Juggs]

sounds like a lot of friggin around flehrad.

i use selleys locktite superglue gel. can fletch a dozen arrows in half an hour with the one blitzenburger and they stick like all hell, never had a vane seperate on over 6 dozen arrows

[Flame]

Why not use wraps? :D

[Axilla]

Wraps are indeed the way to go - did you get those flame ones I posted a pic of a while ago, Flame.

[Juggs]

do they do silver flame to match the ultratec and red flame to match the supertec and realtree to match the bowtech.

**** im going to need 3 sets of arrows

[Axilla]

Look for yourself here, Juggs


www.arrowwrapsunlimited.com

[coach]

Fletchtite has brought out a glue for carbons :D It's on the back of archery action!

[Robert43]

I do it like Flechrad said but use wet and dry paper dosent that a long time and put metho on the vains to clean the also use Saunbers NVP

[robbo]

I usually use AAE Fastset gel or FletchtiteII.


On the subject of wraps, do you just wrap them around the shaft and overlap the wrap. Or do you need to be more exact? :D

[Lyle]

I found the easiest and cheapest way is to use wraps and super glue (cyanoacrlyte) stuff I bought at a supacheap type store. It came in a packet of 6 small tubes and 1 tube fletched 1 doz arrows. I haven't had a vane fall off yet and I regularly have to hunt behind the target for my arrows !!! :-?

[2Dogs]

Buy a bottle of Loctite 406.

1 bottle will last you 1 decade!

Be careful.....don't get it on your fingers then scratch you nuts after :o

[Robert43]

thats an idead 406 we use it at work also can use it to glue in points?

[2Dogs]

I use 480 for the points as it sets in 2min & has the highest shear strength.


It is very hard to get them back out agian without damamging the shaft.

[Marcus]

I usually use AAE Fastset gel or FletchtiteII.


On the subject of wraps, do you just wrap them around the shaft and overlap the wrap. Or do you need to be more exact? :DI overwrap, works fine for me.

[Jules]

Well, I'm glad I asked!
Is this funny or am I broken?
http://www.freeimagesolutions.com/ims/pic.php?u=1580SvczN&i=19352

[Jules]

Do these wraps involve double sided tape? Like the curly vanes?

[Juggs]

no thats funny :) .

[Marcus]

That's pretty funny! :lol:

The wraps are a tape that just sticks on, you don't add extra stick.
You then glue the fletches to them.

We have most colours in stock, $12 for 15.

http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/20030920010153.jpg

[Jules]

Now I understand :D

[Clare Barnes]

I was sent the same duck pictures shown above a few days ago, with the title "Mother of the Year"! :D

[robbo]

Not funny :-?

[robbo]

I usually use AAE Fastset gel or FletchtiteII.


On the subject of wraps, do you just wrap them around the shaft and overlap the wrap. Or do you need to be more exact? :DI overwrap, works fine for me.


Thanks, I was thinking that I would have to trim them.

[Marcus]

My first one I trimmed and it was bad. I then decided that the untrimmed ones would be more consistant weight wise and that is more important than a flush fit.

[robbo]

Makes sense.

[mousehouse]

Something else you can try is arrow mate. Works beautifully and no stuffing around. Vanes definately won't fall off, even with arrows that go through and under butts. Only problem we can find is that it works too damn well when you need to replace the vanes!

[Eberbachl]

No need to sand carbon shafts. I'd never do that anyway - it will only wear the shaft and provide you with potential weight dispcrepancies.

Just clean the shaft, and away you go.

The only good thing about Fletch-tite is the applicator it comes with. :rofl:

Using Bostik Multi-bond I have never had a vane come off a carbon shaft ...ever.

I have also had excellent experiences with the cyanoacrylate based fast set get that Marcus has mentioned here - just clean the shaft, and stick on the vane :wink:

...also - Loctite make a great cyanoacrylate fast set super glue gel which comes in a smal tube and works a treat too. Don't remember the name of it now - will have a look when I get home.

The great thing about the two cyanoacrylate based fast set gels is that it only takes a few seconds to apply each vane. You can fletch a whole dozen very quickly. Bugger waiting around for five + minutes per vane!

If you like wraps - go for it, they look good, and it means you can remove vanes without damaging the shaft. Without the wrap you have to be a bit careful when removing old vanes without damaging the shaft.

The problem with them is that if you damage one vane, you have to pull the whole wrap off and add a new one along with re-fletching three vanes all over again - just to fix one dodgy vane...

[Jules]

Hmmm... good point. Might just stick 'em on on this occasion and if I have to massacre the shafts to replace vanes, I'll go the wrap option next time. I can be pretty careful with a scalpel and a bottle of acetone if need be so I might get away with it. Time will tell.
Thankyou all for your input.

[coach]

Hey Jules if you need to get them off after gluing with Fletchtite ,try steaming over a kettle and they will peel off ! You then only need to scrape the excess off with a knife, use it at 90 degrees to the shaft so you dont cut into the carbon :D

[Eberbachl]

The two Cyanoacrylate gel adhesives I was referring to are:

AAE Fastset gel - available from Urban Archery

...and Selleys Quicktite gel.

They both work extremely well and have fantastic fine applicators for no mess application :wink:

[coach]

What about when it comes to removal Eberbachl? :D

[Juggs]

one tube of selleys will fletch a dozen arrows

[2Dogs]

The problem with them is that if you damage one vane, you have to pull the whole wrap off and add a new one along with re-fletching three vanes all over again - just to fix one dodgy vane...


I've have always replaced all three vanes, even before such things as wraps came along.

Stuffing around trying to get the vane in the right spot again.....was a pain and I never got it "just right" :wink:

[Eberbachl]

What about when it comes to removal Eberbachl? :D

Removal is easy coach - just a little care is all that's required :wink:

If you are not careful, you can take some carbon with you........so be careful :P

[robbo]

The problem with them is that if you damage one vane, you have to pull the whole wrap off and add a new one along with re-fletching three vanes all over again - just to fix one dodgy vane...


I've have always replaced all three vanes, even before such things as wraps came along.

Stuffing around trying to get the vane in the right spot again.....was a pain and I never got it "just right" :wink:

I always replace all the vanes, as well.

The others are likely to fall off anyway. :D

[Eberbachl]

Hmmmm - well, anyway - I can't remember the last time I had to replace a vane anyway - so I guess it's fairly academic really :wink:

[topline]

Any idea where to buy loctite 406 and 480 in Perth. Have tried Bunnings in Morley and Supercheap Auto with no luck.

[Flame]

Any idea where to buy loctite 406 and 480 in Perth. Have tried Bunnings in Morley and Supercheap Auto with no luck.

try a bearing shop that where I got mine.

Drop in at Midland on the way to KGSA shoot :D

[topline]

Thanks for that. Will try find a bearing shop in Midland.