World Juniors Champs: Official Thread

[Marcus]

Welcome to the Official* Thread of the World Junior Championships.
We have a Roaming Archery Forum Reporter on the scene who will be calling in reporting on the progress as the event goes on.
He has arrived and today they will be shooting official practise. Tomorrow is Opening plus more practise.
The wind is moderate and from behind the archers.
More info to come.






*Not sanctioned by FITA or AA

[grantwomack]

Who is the AF reporter? Any idea on live updates of the website? Oh, and the website is: here (http://www.jotawc2004.org/).

[fred]

Hows this for strange.

FITA have pics from the opening cermony and has since 8am this morning when I browsed by but the GB official Championship wweb page has not been updated since the 17th

Any time your ready to report James.
Looking forward :D

[grantwomack]

Well, from the pictures, it looks like they are using Danage targets. Make sure you all have your arrow pullers for those damned things! We shot on them at the National Indoors. 2315 allies were difficult enough to get out only going in an inch or two. X10's were damn near impossible! I ended up with a few bits of torn skin by the end of the weekend, thankfully not in shot-affecting areas... :o

[CMB50]

Only picture i can find so far.

Left to right (and i'll need help with this)

Kathryn Jankovic , Nicole Pless, Tom Dempsey , Chris Edwards, Scott Hagaman , Paul Von Dohren.
Not sure if it's correct.



http://www.jotawc2004.org/Photos/18-july-2004/img_det/DSCF0715_detail.JPG


The official web site is really slow and not very well designed. But what can you do.... they are English! :roll: :wink:

[James Park]

You will be pleased to know that Australian Team Management (Alison and Jim) currently hold both the height (100M) and distance (150M) records for the rocket launching competition.
We were actually supposed to hit the Planet Zog at about 60M distance, but we significantly over-shot, nearly landing on some buildings far in the distance.
As you would expect, we carefully optimised the required quantity of rocket fuel, but obtained a higher exhaust pressure than calculated, hence over shooting the target (and a very high tree, and most of the archery range).

Dave was planning on challenging for the skinny dipping medal tonight.

[Flame]

What are you on Jim? :D

[James Park]

Flame,
All true !! (At least the rocket launching bit is, I suspect the skinny-dippy bit did not).

[Flame]

Sounds like you are having a great time.
Must be because you are with the kids :D

[James Park]

Other highlights of practice day:
- Picking up one of Dave's X10's out of the grass at 70M.
- Chris shooting two X10's at 70M but with his sight on 30M.

[Flame]

The boys are hot :D

[James Park]

Scoring starts tomorrow. Everyone seems to be shooting pretty well.

[CMB50]

Tim C.


http://www.jotawc2004.org/Photos/19-july-2004/img_det/IMG_0137_detail.JPG

[CMB50]

looks like Grant was right about the target butts being used.....


http://www.jotawc2004.org/Photos/19-july-2004/img_det/IMG_0115_detail.JPG

[Marcus]

Just got a call from Jim
They are heading out now to start shooting day one.
Our U18 compounders are shooting very well and they have their matchpay order sorted out.
USA's Branden G. is shooting very nice including 350+ at 70m.
However all through the pratise days Dave and Tim constantly had a crowd standing around watching them shoot! :D

[Marcus]

More info
They have the largest TV screen in Britan behind the shooting line on theback of a semi-trailer which is broadcasting images etc from the shoot.
64 target butts with 4 archers per target, and that's just the juniors (not the cadets)
Paul is shooting with Brandan.
Wind is from the rear with a moderate breeze strong enough to keep the FITA flad straight out.

[Robert de Bondt]

It might have been posted elsewhere, but I just noticed that after 90M Tim is running first 314 and Dave 2nd with 313 Thomas 274 47th
Suzie 276 61st

http://www.jotawc2004.org/Documents/Edition-du-palmares-en-individuel.pdf

[grantwomack]

However all through the pratise days Dave and Tim constantly had a crowd standing around watching them shoot! :D
It's what I would expect from a 3rd and 5th place in an open tournament less than a week ago. It almost seems unfair to the others... ;)
NAH!!! Let Tim and Dave flog them for all their worth!

[fred]

Compound is in too.

Kathryn 22nd with 315

Scott 7th with 319

Chris 46 with 289

Paul 51st with 271

[von doodle]

i was shooting great through practise but for some reason my form has all been blown to sh*t can't hit the left side of a barn i guess i will have to aim for the right side then. i should be at top notch by matchplay day i hope anyway

[grantwomack]

Go for it, von doodle!! I'm sure it'll all fall together in the end!
Wish I could come down and see some of the action - or at least the matchplay.
Jim, couldn't you rig up some sort of satellite signal to give us access to the big screen TV on AF.com? :D :D

[CMB50]

Results so far:

pos. Name. Country. 1st dist. 2nd Dist. Total.

Recurve Junior Women

57 ENGLEBRIGHT Suzie AUSTRALIA 276 311 587

Compound Junior Women

27 JANKOVIC Kathryn AUSTRALIA 311 315 626

Compound Cadet Women

15 PLESS Nicole AUSTRALIA 299 n/a 299

Recurve Junior Men

1 BARNES David AUSTRALIA 313 336 649
2 CUDDIHY Timothy AUSTRALIA 314 329 643
52 DEMPSEY Thomas AUSTRALIA 274 304 578

Compound Junior Men

23 HAGAMAN Scott AUSTRALIA 319 317 636
47 EDWARDS Christopher AUSTRALIA 289 301 590
48 VON DOHREN Paul AUSTRALIA 271 315 586

[CMB50]

Paul, sorry to hear you're not shooting well. Those scores are a bit under your abilities. Hope it all comes together soon for you for a strong finish.

Good luck all!

[James Park]

A few more bits of info (I will not worry about the scores as I am sure you can get them elsewhere):
- Dave had a miss at 90M (but still a wonderful score).
- It got quite windy (just my sort of weather and I wish I had been shooting). Mostly a following wind, tending to rear quartering. It would have suited me nicely.
- They are using a beaut electronic display board to show the scores (they show the full field of scores every end - best I have seen).
- It is taking about 15 minutes per end.
- Had a bit of a chat to Braden - nice guy and a great shooter. During one of the windier periods be shot a beaut 58 at 70M.
- The Korean ladies have superb technique (we knew that, but I still checked). I took some pictures of their stance (it is exactly the one I teach).
- Many of the compounders have poor technique.
- After the last end today the scores got things a little wrong and the score board showed Scott in 2nd place - I was not quick enough with my camera.
- There is a very wide diversity of equipment types (recurves especially, with W&W and PSE risers being very prominent). Probably more Hoyt compounds than others, but still a diversity. X10's and Cartels seem to be the most common arrows.
- There are a number of dealers present, but they are all small ones I have never heard of.
- Each archer has 0.8M of space on the shooting line.
- A few of our archers suffered from nerves today at the first distance (but got better at the second).
- The cadets shot this afternoon, and the wind was stronger.
- I have so far had a few minor equipment issues to deal with as well as a few form items.
- There are three shooting grounds: the competition ground, the practice ground adjacent to the competition ground and the practice ground at the residences. There were over 60 butts in use, four per butt, for the juniors, and about 40 for the cadets. Over 400 competitors.
- Each archer will have an individual target face for 30M tomorrow.
- The entrance drive for the UK Sports Centre is about 2 miles long.

I should explain the talk about rocketry in earlier posts: to keep the competitors amused after shooting,the organisers have arranged a number of activities. One of those is making water and compressed air rockets out of Coke bottles. Huge fun. As I mentioned, Australian Team Management had the record distance last night (but the New Zealanders tell us they unofficially got just a touch further, so we will be trying again soon). We attach fins to the back of the Coke bottle, put in some water and a valve at the back, attach a bike pump, put the rocket on a launch ramp and pump like crazy. When sufficient pressure has been reached it blows the valve out the back and off it goes.

[grantwomack]

And here was me thinking you had come over here to be the responsible one! :P
Nice to know some of the info. We might need a little more depth when time permits... the scoreboard sounds great! Are they using electronic scoring?
Any chance you can swing by York for a few hours coaching before you leave the country? ;)

[James Park]

Regarding the scoring: as I understand it, there are volunteers every couple of targets who get the scores back to the computer area, from where they are placed on the score board. It runs about one end behind the shooting, cycling through all of the competitors, seven at a time. Very impressive indeed, and far better than anything I have seen before.
Another impressive thing is the number of volunteers from the GNAS. They are doing a great task. The organisers have had a number of significant challenges, mainly through teams registering very late and some turning up with more competitors than they had registered. I think GNAS was expecting about 250, but we have over 400.

As one of the Australian Team Coaches (with Lee Ki Sik being the other), I am allowed on the competition field up to the waiting line. I cannot go to the targets. Ki Sik and I have divided up the archers into recurve and compound, with me mainly looking after the compounders. This morning I had Kathryn on target 28, and the three guys on 57, 58 and 59, so I had quite a bit of walking up and down the line. During the 90M range I had to do some work on Paul's GFK launcher (there is some slop in the bearings and it was moving around quite a lot - we were able to remove some of it, but will need to watch it closely).

No, Grant, cannot get to York ! (I will, however, spend a few days in London after this - I could not get on the same flight as the rest of the team due to administrative challenges).

[Flame]

good report Jim :D

[andy]

I went to have a look today (day2). Some impressive scores from Aus. Well done guys. I did however see Dave's miss at 90m. I noticed Jim running around a fair bit. Was going to say hi but didn't want to interupt. I should be going friday & or saturday so I will probably introduce myself then. I'm sure i'll be seeing aus in the finals.

Good to see Japan and Turkey on the practice targets after their matches when everybody else went.

Good luck for the next few days Aus.

[unclepete]

Great report Jim - Keep 'em coming :)

[Axilla]

Good insider info, James.

I bet Paul wishes he'd accepted my offer of a QT3000 rest to take with him!

[rooster]

Enjoy it Paul aim middle :wink:

[MerlinApexDylan]

Dave and Tim are leading. One and two respectably. :o

[frommy]

After 3rd end today

Recurve Junior female
Suzie 59

Compound Junior Female
Kathryn 29

Recurve Junior Men
David 1 982
Tim 2 981
Thomas 60

Compound Junior Men
Scott 25
Chris 49
Paul 50
(5 points between them)

[grantwomack]

The results are in:
1 314 329 338 355 CUDDIHY Timothy AUSTRALIA 1336
2 313 336 333 348 BARNES David AUSTRALIA 1330
62 274 304 282 333 DEMPSEY Thomas AUSTRALIA 1193

58 276 311 286 324 ENGLEBRIGHT Suzie AUSTRALIA 1197

So looks like Tim scraped in a win against Dave! Well done!!!
Brilliant result from Australia, also placing second in the mens recurve.

26 319 317 327 348 HAGAMAN Scott AUSTRALIA 1311
49 289 301 304 328 EDWARDS Christopher AUSTRALIA 1222
50 271 315 303 323 VON DOHREN Paul AUSTRALIA 1212

29 268 311 301 341 JANKOVIC Kathryn AUSTRALIA 1268

The winning junior mens compound score was from Braden with 1383. An unbelievable score, really. Not only that, two others were 1378 and 1376 just behind him! Some impressive shooting!

[grantwomack]

And is that a new PB for Tim? Bloody impressive score! I think both he and Dave just beat the British record by a fair bit! :o
Since Clare is/was British, doesn't that mean Dave could claim that? :-?

[Clare Barnes]

And is that a new PB for Tim? Bloody impressive score! I think both he and Dave just beat the British record by a fair bit! :o
Since Clare is/was British, doesn't that mean Dave could claim that? :-?

Great shooting guys! :bday:

As fas as I know yes, it's a new PB for Tim! :D

And 1330 with a miss is not bad either David! :wink:

David is a UK citizen and holds a valid British passport but that doesn't that mean he can claim a British record does it? I have no idea. :-?

[Flame]

Great stuff guys :D

[Clare Barnes]

A note for Marcus:

If you post results from next year's Nats in PDF format can you PLEASE not do it as one big file but separate them into divisions of some kind. The JWACS one takes forever to download every time even on broadband, and out of the 8 divisions I only want to look at a couple. :( :roll:

[rooster]

WELL done every one :wink:

[Metal Mick]

Hi all,

Nicole text-ed us this morning: for her second two distances, she shot 332 (40m, small face) and 340 (30m), improving her ranking to 12.

Cheers,

[Flame]

Much better

Go Nicole :D

[Marcus]

13 PLESS Nicole AUSTRALIA 299 308 330 342 1279

Good shooting Nicole, she gets a be in the first round then up against the #4 seed, tough match.

Great work Nicole! :D

[Aarleks]

Well done Dave and Tim!! :D

Congratultations to all. 13th for Nicole is excellent. Well done! 8)

[Foxcub]

good going guys

[robbo]

Great stuff. :D

[Eberbachl]

Great shooting team :wink:

[CMB50]

wow, check out that shooting line! :o

http://www.jotawc2004.org/Photos/20-july-2004/img_det/CRW_4832_detail.jpg

The collection and variety of photo's is pretty disappointing. It's almost as though the photographer has just sat in the one spot for the entire event and photographed the same people. :-?

[Flame]

Looks like a DVA Ranking round :wink:

[CMB50]

can't be......way too many recurves!! :wink:

[Flame]

:D

[frommy]

Cam,

The collection and variety of photo's is pretty disappointing. It's almost as though the photographer has just sat in the one spot for the entire event and photographed the same people.

I agree. Very disappointing. :(

[Marcus]

Suzi has lost in the first round 141-159 against Burgess from GBR

[grantwomack]

Shame that Suzie got knocked out. :(
But I can't say I'm unhappy about a Brit making it to the second round! :) They need a few good archers over here... :-?

[Clare Barnes]

Tim and David through to the 1/16 round, Thomas out but unlucky to lose to one of the Koreans 164 - 160.

[Clare Barnes]

Kathryn is through to the 1/8 round in the junior girls compound beating the Mexican who finished 4th :D

[fred]

All three out in first round
:cry:
Chris 158 to 164
Scott 163 to 168
Paul 163 to 173

Real shame they couldn't go further.

[Marcus]

Just in

down to Final 4 in Jrs

tim's still in
dave's out, shot 2 8's


katheryn through 1st round but lost next, finihsed 16th

Stephen Clifton of NZ shot 119, last arrow a 9 and enough X's had it been a 10 he would have had a WR.

[grantwomack]

So are you privy to insider's knowledge, Marcus? Who was Dave up against when he went out? That's crazy, seeing he shot the best score in the first round. Well done to Tim though! Maybe he'll go on to win it!

[Flame]

Dave 113 second highest score for the 1/4 round
Kim (kor) 115

Dave would have beat everybody else - he was robbed :(

Look like Jims where to place on the ladder is right

[2Dogs]

Thhaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttt's Matchplay :wink:

[Flame]

sure is :D

[Killjoy]

Dave 113 second highest score for the 1/4 round
Kim (kor) 115

Dave would have beat everybody else - he was robbed :(

Look like Jims where to place on the ladder is right

Well u win some u lose some... can't win them all... :wink:

Good going anyway ..

[CMB50]

Nicole Pless in the Cadets Compound has finished 9th. She tied with her opponent on 167 and a shoot off was require. Nicole shot a 8, her opponent a 9. Bad luck Nicole.

Point of interest, she was well and truly the highest scorer of that rounds losers and i think with a little more luck would have finished higher.
Thats matchplay!
Well done Nicole!

[CMB50]

From the pictures of Wed 21st on the official website, there are 22 photo's of the same girl with her bow at full draw!! How many timed do we need to see it?
With so many archers from all of the world there, surely taking some pictures of different people can't be that difficult!!! :x

[James Park]

From your official forum rep at the event:
I could not get on the forum last night, so two days worth.
- Tim shot very well indeed on the second day. Pb for both 50M and 30M.
- Braden Gellenthien shot beautifully at 50M, for a 352. As he was shooting next to Paul I was able to watch most of it. At 30M he shot an 8 to get 357 (and an excellent 8 it was). He is a nice guy to talk to.
- The US compounders shot a team world record.
- Our compounders struggled just a bit. I thought they shot well, but their scores were a bit lower than they wanted.
- Virtually everyone was wanting to watch Tim and Dave.
- In the matchplay today, Stephen Clifton (NZ) started with 11 10's in his last 12 arrow round. He had sufficient X's for the Open men's World record, but shot a 9 with his last arrow.
- In one of the 18 arrow rounds, Braden shot 57+60+59 for 176, just short of the Open World Record.
- Our three Junior Men Compounders all shot well in their matchplay round but came up against strong competition. In Scott's match the Frenchman he was up against started his final end with X, X, X, X, (all touching) and then had 10, 9. Bit of a challenge to beat that.
- Paul started with a 5, but then shot his match beautifully.
- Scott started with an X and a 10 (but then a 7).
- Kathryn was up against the 4th ranked archer and shot very nicely to win.
- Thomas was up against the top-ranked Korean and led after the first end, was equal after two ends, but shot a 5. I think that everyone except the Koreans were wanting Thomas to win.
- Dave's early rounds were particularly impressive. His first end was a 59. In the 1/4 round he opened with a 58 to lead by 1, but in the second end he shot two 8's.
- Suzie started with a nice 51 and was doing very well, except for just one shot in the final end.
- I have been particularly impressed with the organisation. It has been excellent. The chairman of the organising committee told me that they are using a scoring system developed by the French. In the matchplay they have every archer's name shown at his shooting position. Scores have been shown live virtually straight after each end. The number of, efficiency, and enthusiasm of the volunteers has been stunning.
- There are about five archery shops on site (but none that I had heard of before). The usual sorts of things are for sale.
- At the equipment inspection, Chris presented about 9 release devices for inspection.
- The kitchen is doing a remarkable job in feeding over 400 people for breakfast and dinner each day. Dave and Tim have worked out that with two queues they can visit each one once to get two serves each meal.
- Ki Sik has brought along a supply of Korean soups. I tried one today: quite delicious, but I am pleased he advised me to only use 1/2 of the hot spices rather than the full amount in the kit.

On to the significantly more important things of the event:
- Australian Team Management (Alison and me) are now the leaders in the distance, height and accuracy events of the rocketry competition. Our furthest shot was over 150M, the highest was (by my estimation) over 100M, and we got within 4M of hitting the target at about 70M away. As you would no doubt expect, we have worked out the optimum use of the technology so that we can get the highest pressure in the coke bottle and our trajectory is probably about 1/3 of the angle used by others. Interestingly, others have noticed that we are doing this rather better than anyone else and we have been subject to close scrutiny with others trying to work out how we do it (they have not, however, noticed the subtle difference in the way we are using the technology). Naturally enough, Dave is trying to persuad us to aim at the windows of the nearby residence.

Tomorrow we will all go along to cheer for Tim in the finals, and then in the afternoon we are planning on a touristing trip, going back to collect Tim's gold medal at the end of the afternoon. Then we will win the compound and recurve team events the day after. The guys and I have worked out that we will do best having them shoot in the order Paul,m Scott then Chris.

I actually got to shoot some arrows yesterday (borrowed one of Chris' bows, with a draw length 3" shorter than I normally need). Shot rather well actually.

[Flame]

Good report Jim.

I notice you are getting a heap of info that you might want to use for our nats :D

The kids have done well.

Keep at the coke bottle :D

[Clare Barnes]

Virtually everyone was wanting to watch Tim and Dave.

I imagine they would not like that too much - when they normally shoot they're just two of many competent archers!

[Flame]

They have a lot of fans

They will have to get used to it :D

[Metal Mick]

Hi Cameron, et al,

Nicole Pless in the Cadets Compound has finished 9th. She tied with her opponent on 167 and a shoot off was require. Nicole shot a 8, her opponent a 9. Bad luck Nicole.

Point of interest, she was well and truly the highest scorer of that rounds losers and i think with a little more luck would have finished higher.
Thats matchplay!
Well done Nicole!

Thanks for the well-wishes and commiserations. Nicole text'ed us (at 3 am - she is nothing if not prompt :-? ) She was disapointed at the finish, but happy to have made it into the top 10. She's only been shooting in competitions since March of last year, and as an unbiased father I think that she has come a long way.

Cheers,

[Flame]

She did well Mick

Good experience for her. :D

[Marcus]

First thing I did this morning was download her results sheets and saw she was defeated, but then seeing the score my first thought was "Way to go Nicole!". Not only was it the highest losing score, but it was would have won most of the other matches.
Great shooting, very proud of your effort!

[Robert de Bondt]

Just in

tim's still in
dave's out, shot 2 8's


Congratulations to Tim and all the other competitors.

MatchPlay at times can suck, but still excellent shooting by Dave with seven-10s, three 9s and two 8s, total 113. A score like that would have won the Olympic Gold Medal in the last three Olympics. Good shooting Dave (even though the outcome might give you the sh*ts :( ).

Keep on trucking :D

[2Dogs]

Oh I'm sure he's been trying to Truck a lot of things over there :wink:

[robbo]

Good report Jim. :D

[robbo]

Well done to all our archers, and good luck to Tim today. :D

[frommy]

Well done all, and thanks for the reporting , Jim.

I see that they are to broadcast the finals "live". Have a look at this page:

http://www.aquilanova.be/archery/match.php?m=17

Very impressive indeed. It is refreshing every 10 seconds already.

By my calculations the finals begin at 8:30 pm AET.

Brian

[robbo]

Thanks for the link frommy. :D

It will be good to be able follow the progress tonight.

[robbo]

Very impressive indeed. It is refreshing every 10 seconds already.
Brian


But it takes 30 seconds to load each time on mine. :D

[Flame]

You'll get the final result tomorrow Robbo :D

[unclepete]

Just checked it out - not bad.

Creating the web page isn't particularly difficult - the logistics behind collecting and entering the scores is usually the problem. From Jim's comments, they've got lots of volunteers and good organisation and that's what makes it possible.

Tonight will be interesting.

[robbo]

A couple of pictures of the archers on the page would be good.

[CMB50]

The problem with the refreshing results page is that their web site is so slow that it take's the 10seconds on my broadband to load and then it all disappears again to reload! :-?

[Gilli]

Congratulations and well done to all our Aussie Juniors in UK. - Also to NZ'ers (after all they are almost Aussies if it weren't for that little strip of water and most of them live here anyway!)

Jim sounds like he is having a great time. But is the rocket launching taking over from the archery???

Thought you'd like to know it is still cold (3.5 on Thursday morning) Please bring home some warmer weather!!!

[Marcus]

Here are some Stats, the Ranking positions of those who made the final 4

Jr Compound Men
1
2
3
4

Jr Compound Women
1
2
3
5
(Katheryn knocked out the 4th seed)

Jr Recurve Women
1
5
14
2

Jr Recurve Men
1
5
22
7

Cadets Compound Women
1
5
6
2

Cadets Compound Men
9
4
14
10

Cadets Recurve Women
8
20
3
2

Cadets Recurve Men
1
4
11
2


So only the Jr Compound divisions really had the top qualifyers get through, while the rest were very much a mix.

[654321]

. :cry:

[grantwomack]

Going to be a more challenging day today. A little windier than yesterday (I think, anyway) so anything could happen really. Good luck to Tim. Can't wait to see the live feed!

[grantwomack]

Tim made it through. All the Koreans were knocked out. Him and Decker in the finals at 12:45pm local time. Should be good! :)

[unclepete]

They've just updated the competitor's database - the names are now showing.

Bring it on - can't wait :)

[fred]

Tim vs Decker

IS THIS FOR GOLD?????????????

[unclepete]

Tim vs Decker

IS THIS FOR GOLD?????????????

Yes it is

The links below are for the other gold matches. Maybe frommy has the parent page, but navigating that site to find it is frustrating, so I sussed out their urls - much quicker :)

http://www.aquilanova.be/archery/match.php?m=15 Compound Junior Men
http://www.aquilanova.be/archery/match.php?m=16 Recurve Junior Women
http://www.aquilanova.be/archery/match.php?m=17 Recurve Junior Men
http://www.aquilanova.be/archery/match.php?m=18 Compound Cadet Women
http://www.aquilanova.be/archery/match.php?m=19 Compound Cadet Men
http://www.aquilanova.be/archery/match.php?m=20 Recurve Cadet Women
http://www.aquilanova.be/archery/match.php?m=21 Recurve Cadet Men
http://www.aquilanova.be/archery/match.php?m=22 Compound Junior Women

[unclepete]

Tim made it through. All the Koreans were knocked out. Him and Decker in the finals at 12:45pm local time. Should be good! :)

About 9:45pm in Sydney

Grant, any times for the other matches?

[frommy]

I think that this forum could go very quiet in about 30 minutes, and hopefully explode with excitement not long after 9:15

[frommy]

Parent page is

http://www.jotawc2004.org/

You a correct with 9:45 AET, and I was wrong with my 9:15 time.

Go Tim

[fred]

Tim made it through. All the Koreans were knocked out. Him and Decker in the finals at 12:45pm local time. Should be good! :)

Did'nt happen to get the scores?
I have normal internet (f#@*&^g slow) it is freezing all the time on the junior pages.
Please keep posting it comes through on forum .

GO YOU GOOD THING FROM TOOWOOMBA :D :P :D :P

[grantwomack]

These are just what I saw on this page:
http://www.aquilanova.be/archery/index.php?c=1
Not sure of the scores yet - maybe they will be up soon. Times for the other matches can be found on that page as well.

[frommy]

The problem with the refreshing results page is that their web site is so slow that it take's the 10seconds on my broadband to load and then it all disappears again to reload! :-?

I am finding the same from my dial in, but I am not complaining. Still a great service.

From work today I was getting a 3 second refresh through the servers.

Hhhhhhmmmmmmm. 15 minutes to get over to work. Will miss the first match. :(

Bugger. I would be over .05 by now.

"Darling, could you please drive me to work"

Crash, thump, "You have got to be ...........

[unclepete]

About 3-5 seconds from here :)

[unclepete]

These are just what I saw on this page:
http://www.aquilanova.be/archery/index.php?c=1

That's the page I was looking for. My guesses were correct - the list I posted for the gold medal matches is complete <phew> :D

[frommy]

Another thing is that the photo takers, who to date seem only have take two photos of the Ozzie archers, surely cannot now avoid rectifying their previous omissions with Tim in the Gold medal match.

[unclepete]

Another thing is that the photo takers, who to date seem only have take two photos of the Ozzie archers, surely cannot now avoid rectifying their previous omissions with Tim in the Gold medal match.

From previous efforts, I think we'll see a lot of the spectators, officials and cloud formations.

[frommy]

And less archers from GB.

Sorry Grant, but, mate the people taking the photos really did themselves no favours with the 15 or so photos of the young English girl.

Still no arrows in the rings. Bl**dy long winded announcers doing the intros. Gggggrrrrrr.

[fred]

Young S. Clifton from NZ got the bronze in compound.

[fred]

Results for the junior compound women are coming through on
http://www.jotawc2004.org/ but not on thr live page bothe archers are currently at 109 each CLOSE

oops that means a shoot off!

USA REEVES T 109 (10) Winner
SWE BOBERG S 109 8

[frommy]

Fred, which pages are you looking at? :-? I just looked and could not find the info.

[fred]

The page I quoted!

I think it's the home page Next match has started

[fred]

CJM (In progress)

USA GELLENTHIE 30
GER TITSCHER P 27

[unclepete]

frommy, if the page hasn't changed since the last time you looked, hold down the shift key and click refresh - that'll force the browser to load the page from the server and not a cache

[fred]

CJM (In progress)

USA GELLENTHIE 59
GER TITSCHER P 57

I will keep posting for those who carn't find it

CJM (In progress)

USA GELLENTHIE 88
GER TITSCHER P 85

USA GELLENTHIE 117 Winner ("bloody hot stuff " fred)
GER TITSCHER P 115

[unclepete]

The page fred's quoting from refreshes every 60 seconds, so just sit back and watch :)

[frommy]

Peter, the page Fred listed is the home page. I am f*cked if I can find where you guys are getting this info from.

As as I am now on overtime with my ISP I am getting p*ssed off.

[fred]

RJW (In progress)

TPE CHEN Y 27
KOR JO H 26

RJW (In progress)

TPE CHEN Y 53
KOR JO H 53

[unclepete]

Peter, the page Fred listed is the home page. I am f*cked if I can find where you guys are getting this info from.

As as I am now on overtime with my ISP I am getting p*ssed off.

Correct - it's the home page. I'm seeing it OK, and I just used the link in fred's post and that's OK, too. Try the hard refresh I described as your dialup may be causing your browser to cache the page - it happens on a slow link sometimes

[frommy]

Found it. :oops: So simple. :oops:

But the address is actually

http://www.jotawc2004.org/Results.htm

The real time thing went well, did it not. :cry:

[fred]

RJW (In progress)

TPE CHEN Y 82
KOR JO H 81

[fred]

RJW (In progress)

TPE CHEN Y 82
KOR JO H 81

this is a good way to rack up a few posts

[unclepete]

:D

So is this :)
(It works for flame)

[Flame]

:o :D

[fred]

RJW (Finished)

TPE CHEN Y 109
KOR JO H 110 Winner

NOW FOR THE TIM MASTER

[unclepete]

:o :D

Should have known you'd be lurking :)

Korea by a point - at least one person gets to keep their spot on the squad...

[David Rowson]

Go Tim

[grantwomack]

RJM (In progress)

AUS CUDDIHY T 30
LUX DECKER G 29

[fred]

AUS CUDDIHY T 30
LUX DECKER G 29



PURRFECT blood cats

[frommy]

Junior compound

USA GELLENTHIE 117


What great shooting. Well done indeed.

[fred]

Junior compound

USA GELLENTHIE 117


What great shooting. Well done indeed.

just check out TIM

[grantwomack]

RJM (In progress)

AUS CUDDIHY T 58
LUX DECKER G 56

[fred]

AUS CUDDIHY T 58
LUX DECKER G 56

[grantwomack]

RJM (In progress)

AUS CUDDIHY T 86
LUX DECKER G 82

Looking good - and in this wind!

[mbomike]

Go the Bronco's



Sorry off topic :lol: Just got caught up with all the excitement :o

[fred]

AUS CUDDIHY T 58
LUX DECKER G 56

[unclepete]

The suspense is killing me :o

[grantwomack]

AUS CUDDIHY T 58
LUX DECKER G 56


That is soooooo five minutes ago! :D

[mbomike]

And I thought my life was dull :o :o :o :o :o :o :roll:

[2Dogs]

T86 O 82

[2Dogs]

Winner is Tim 111 Other 107



Yeeehaaaaaa! :lol:

[grantwomack]

Tim wins!!!!!
RJM (In progress)

AUS CUDDIHY T 111
LUX DECKER G 107

Well done Tim! We can all relax a little now!

[unclepete]

You bloody ripper Timmy!!!!

[fred]

YES :angel: :angel: :angel:
:D :D
:fist:
AUS CUDDIHY T 111 Winner
LUX DECKER G 107

[2Dogs]

107 you dumb Brit :D

[Tony Pearce]

winner

[Flame]

well done Tim :D

[grantwomack]

107 you dumb Brit :D
It was actually my Australian blood coming through there... :fist:

[David Rowson]

well done Tim

[Zoe]

:bday: :bday: :bday: Congratulations Tim :bday: :bday: :bday:

[frommy]

Well done Tim. Congratulations on some great shooting.

[Clare Barnes]

Great shooting Tim.....and well done to David too for 5th :D :D

Now for the Junior team event, then Athens.... :smilecolros:

[grantwomack]

Now for the Junior team event, then Athens.... :smilecolros:
Can't wait!
I might get lucky and BBC will broadcast some of the archery on digital. Apparently they are giving people up to 5 options of what sports to watch at any one time. With any luck, archery will be one of them...

[robbo]

I'm still waiting for the live results. :-?

[robbo]

Congratulations Tim. :D

[Clare Barnes]

I'm still waiting for the live results. :-?

:rofl:

[fred]

I'm still waiting for the live results. :-?


I had dial up and was only a few seconds slower than the pome from ink.

"dial 9 and ask for a party line"
or maybe turn the handle and then wait to get your wires crossed.

[Flame]

I'm still waiting for the live results. :-?

"dial 9 and ask for a party line"
or maybe turn the handle and then wait to get your wires crossed.

:rofl:

[Aarleks]

YEAH!!!! :bday: :bday: :bday: 8) 8) 8)

Well done Tim! That's two isn't it?

Bring on Athens!! :D

[Killjoy]

Well done... 8)

[James Park]

Your reporter, reporting in:

An excellent day today.
As I am certain you have by now seen all the scores and know the results, I will just comment on the other things of interest.
- You would probably not be aware of the drama of Tim's semi-final. Tim was gone for all money with three arrows to go - down by five points. The Korean was obviously nervous and let down a number of times prior to shooting two 7's for his last two shots. A turn-around of 6 points in two shots. I was Tim's agent down at the target and the feeling was that he was a goner prior to that (sure looked like it, but the important thing was that he never gave up).
- In Tim's final he started with three 10's all touching (just above the X). His apponent shot well, but Tim was going to win it all the way.
- In the Junior Compound Ladies, the leader board (which was live) showed that the Swede had won by a point. celebrations all around. Then there was a correction to a liner and the scores were equal. The USA lass shot first and hit the 10, beating the Swede's 8. I felt quite sorry for the Swede - it would have been better if the doubtfull arrow had first been called with the lower score.
- Down at the target, the judges were calling every arrow, and the score was punched into a keypad connected back to the computers in the scoring area. From there the scores were relayed directly to the large digital displays in front of each competitor. It is a system developed by the French. I have some photographs.
- Braden Gellenthien looked a winner all the way in the Junior Compound Men. Started with a 59 and looked especially confident. Stephjen Clifton did not shoot as well today as yesterday, but won the bronze well.
- It was strongly apparent that the Koreans did not cope well with the pressure in the finals. They were letting down shots quite a lot.
- Tim was drug and alcohol tested following his match (he and I were still there several hours after the final).
- The compounders and I have been practicing team matchplay this evening. They were averaging in the mid 240's, which is quite strong (and it is windy).
- The medal ceremonies were impressive. Once again the GNAS has run the event excellently.
- Of all the National Anthems used, ours was the only one to have included a singer. We will, however, need to encourage the Australians to sing. They need to learn from the Italians, who do such things wonderfully.
- Thomas somehow suceeded in getting one of the Korean ladies to part with a Korean team shirt, so he wore that for most of today. And in case anyone asks, no, there was no Korean lady wandering about shirtless.
- Following Braden's win, Chris immediately went to the nearest shop to purchase an exact copy of Braden's bow.
- By a very long way, the Italians are the most supportive barrackers.
- At one stage the UK team was singing "ozzie, ozzie, ...... etc", and doing it rather better than the Australians.
- The announcer was announcing everything in both English and in French (as is required). He was doing rather well, and was complemented by the French on how well he was doing. I found that my French is still pretty good as well, and I could understand him quite easily.
- Jonathon Shales (World Field recurve champion, 1998) has been running a test of the Beiter "hit or miss" system for everyone to try. It has yellow plastic discs set in a black plastic holder. When the arrow hits them there is a nice "bang" and the disc goes dark. They range in size from 120mm, 80mm, 70mm, etc down to 40mm. He had the archers shooting at them from 30M. I had a go with Stephen Clifton's spare bow (and was one of the few able to get right through from the 120mm down to the 70mm disc - I had to aim quite a bit to the side and high, so it was a bit of a challenge). It looks like quite a good system to me.
- Alison and I still hold the rocketry records, and the final is at the BBQ tomorrow night.
- I am still extremely impressed by how well the event is being run. I am told that FITA estimated that 250 people would attend. In fact there are over 400 competitors and including officials it is over 520. The GNAS must have at least 100 volunteers at the event (possibly more), and they are very efficient, well organised, and friendly.

[robbo]

I'm still waiting for the live results. :-?

"dial 9 and ask for a party line"
or maybe turn the handle and then wait to get your wires crossed.

:rofl:


I musta had the wrong page. :-?

[robbo]

Good report again Jim, much better than my live results. :D

And honestly I wasn't going to say a word about any topless Korean girls. :o

[Flame]

:boobies:

[MerlinApexDylan]

Right on Tim. Good show eh. Guess no ledged tabs really work Eh? :lol: 8) :D :wink:

To bad the Canadian team didn't fair so well. :-? Mike almost got a medal and Doris got a silver.

[Clare Barnes]

Got to love the FITA Press Release #6 on the JWACs.... Tim is more talented than we already knew - he not only shot and won both Recurve and Compound, but has a dual nationality not even Rupert Murdoch (at least I think it was him :-? ) could con out of the governments concerned!!

And just think what Braden will be shooting when he reaches Junior level! :o And for the cadets neither AUS or KOR had competitors in the recurve section so it was sort of hard to win! :roll:

LATER ADDITION TO POST: To their credit FITA corrected this press release within a few hours of the errors being pointed out to them. 8) :D

USA on top of the Compound World

Friday, July 23

Friday has determined archery's new Junior and Cadet World Champions, who are the future of our sport. We have had a great event so far, with good scores in spite of the tension perceptible at this stage of such a competition. These young archers have honoured the sunny and warm weather: each of them has given their very best in an extremely friendly and fair play atmosphere. Special thanks to the Italian team for livening things up in the grandstand!

Today, eight gold medals were being attributed, and they fell to six different countries. This worldwide distribution is a good surprise for our sport. It shows how popular and widespread archery is around the world, and that many different nations are now able to compete at a very high level.

Only in the Compound division is one country still on top of the world: three out of the four possible gold medals have indeed become US property, Tiffany Reeves in the Junior Women category, Braden Gellenthien in Cadet Men, and Tim Cuddihy in Junior Men. Only Antoinette Heijkers from the Netherlands (Cadet Women) was able to prevent the Compound competition from a total American domination.

As far as the Recurve division is concerned, it was thought that Korea and Australia would win most medals. It was only partly the case, as the four Recurve individual finales saw a good mixing of countries clash. Four different nations have become new World Champions: Italy with Carla Frangilli (RCW), China thanks to Chen Wenyuan (RCM), Australia and its Olympians Tim Cuddihy (RJM), and Korea with Ki Bo Bae (RJW).

Tomorrow (Saturday) is saved for the teams finales. We will then know which countries hit the top of the world...

[unclepete]

Never let the truth get in the way of a press release

[Jay Bowden]

well done Tim
Take the feeling with you all the way to Athens :D

[Clare Barnes]

Has anyone found a way to get onto the JWACs website to see how the teams events are being covered? I've tried the normal way and through both FITA and GNAS with no luck...... :(

[rooster]

And what about the AF Dinner?? :wink:

[fred]

Has anyone found a way to get onto the JWACs website to see how the teams events are being covered? I've tried the normal way and through both FITA and GNAS with no luck...... :(

Good, I thought it was only me .

Wonder if Robbo is on at last and stuffed it for us?/ :-?

[robbo]

Hey I resemble that comment. :-?

[Marcus]

Compounders have been knocked out of team matchplay. After 2 ends they were tied but lost to the brits by 3. (Scott started with 2 x's and a 10)
Our recurvers beat Turkey then Poland, not sure who is next.

[fred]

Thanks and keep em coming Marcus.

I still car'nt get on

[Marcus]

India knocked out our recurvers by 8 points
India vs Korea in the finals
Australia vs France for the Bronze

Also in the Cadets they have setup some teams with different countries in it, so Nicole gets to shoot. Good luck to her.

[fred]

:-?

[Flame]

Hey I resemble that comment. :-?

Hey Robbo - close the gate :D

[Marcus]

Australia wins bronze! Shot a 248 and ran away with it. Jim had to wear the teams lucky bath robe in help spur the team to victory!
Well done guys!

[Flame]

hope we get pics of that

Well done guys :D

[Clare Barnes]

Great news..... :smilecolros:

And a great score too ... an AA U18 AUS team record I think! :o :D

Just checked - definitely U18 record and until May this year it would have been an Open men's record too!

[grantwomack]

Great shooting. Shame about going out to India... But I did tell you! ;)
Any idea who won the gold medal match?

[grantwomack]

Just also noticed that Carla Frangilli won the cadet women's recurve after qualifying 8th. Any idea if this is Michele's daughter? Definitely following in her father's footsteps if it is. :o

[Clare Barnes]

Just also noticed that Carla Frangilli won the cadet women's recurve after qualifying 8th. Any idea if this is Michele's daughter? Definitely following in her father's footsteps if it is. :o

She's his brother! :D

[grantwomack]

She's his brother! :D
So she is... :oops:

[Clare Barnes]

She's his brother! :D
So she is... :oops:

:rofl: ... wondered if you'd comment on that statement but no.... :D

She's his sister really.... :wink:

[grantwomack]

Well, I'd just woken up so it's not my fault... :oops:

[Flame]

http://www.jotawc2004.org/Photos/23-july-2004/img_det/DSCF0878_detail.JPG

[Malko]

is There a tall guy shooting just behind them ?????? !! :lol:

can see a stab :D :D :o

[Flame]

I think the Korean guy is a bit worried :D

[Flame]

we must get Jim a yellow or green hat :D

http://www.jotawc2004.org/Photos/23-july-2004/img_det/IMG_0012_detail.JPG

[Jay Bowden]

Tim should get one also :D

[James Park]

Ok, here we are again. I could not get on the Internet after the team events, but am now staying with friends in London.
Best I could do was to ring Marcus during the team events with a few progress scores.
Our compounders shot well in the team event but were run over by the Brits.
Our recurvers shot very nicely in the first round and won pretty easily. In the second round they had Poland, and we recruited the New Zealand team as extra barrackers (even had them wearing Australian tops).
In the third round they were against India and it was a good match. The Indians shot wonderfully in the third end and won it.
For the final I was indeed requested by the guys to wear the "lucky bathrobe" while I was their agent. They shot magnificantly against the French and never looked like losing. Their last end in particular was extremely impressive. Dave shot 88 from 90 for the match.
For the compound cadet girls there was only a team from the USA. The organisers assembled four teams from the various competitors and we did indeed have a competition. Nicole was in "Team CAT", made up of Canada, Australia and Turkey, with me as the coach. We lost to "Team Benelux", but then beat "Team Central America" to take the bronze.
There were some exciting finals: Canada beat the USA in the compound junior boys (First win to Canada in a world championship in 37 years, I was told). The cadet recurve boys final was a good one with China vs Germany. At the end the scores seemed to be tied, and so everyone rushed over to see the one arrow shoot-off, but the judges corrected the value for one arrow to give a German win.
We then had the presentations and closing, which was a bit too long.
that night there was a BBQ (which went a bit late).
Sunday morning most of our team departed for Manchester airport at 6.30am. I travelled with the NZ team down to London.
Overall, it was an excellent event and our archers did very well.

[Flame]

Thanks for the reports Jim

How did the rocket launch final go? :D

[von doodle]

well im back and man was it a fun trip. i didn't think there were any hot chicks that did archery but there sure are some hotties out there. i am much happier now because when i arrived back my parents tolled me that i ranked 37th and i thought i ranked 50th. i was very pleased to hear this. shooting with braden was a good experince and he wasn't to bad to talk to ethier. can't wait to see all the mates i made again but i think it will be a while.

thanks for all the support to

[Axilla]

Good to have you back Paul.

Tell us all about it on Sunday.

[James Park]

This is what can happen when the airlines get a little too vigorous with the luggage handling. This archer had his case crushed and every arrow broken. He lost a full set of ACE's.
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20074.jpg

[James Park]

This is the score entry device used at the championships.
(I took this one while acting as Tim's agent in the recurve final). As each arrow was shot the judge called out its value (checked by me) and it was keyed in directly to the computer system on the side of the field and from there displayed on the large digital displays in front of the archers. Developed by the french and borrowed for this event. During the finals two were in operation. During the ranking rounds 32 were used (one per two targets).
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20072.jpg

[James Park]

This is the digital display used to show the leader board.
Every end (including 3 arrow ends) every archer's score was shown.
The display could be separated into four separate displays which were then used for the finals (one per archer). Very impressive indeed.
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20063.jpg

[NOCK HUNTER]

As always, Great work Jim :D

[James Park]

As usual, the Korean ladies had excellent form. This was on the practice ground, and these two simply filled up the 10 ring at 70M every end. Quite impressive to watch. Their shots were quite quick. However, in the matchplay finals it seemed to me that they did not deal with the pressure as well as required - they let down frequently (which was never the case in practice).
You can see from the trees that it was a little windy.
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20037.jpg

[James Park]

Of the compounders, Braden Gellenthien (USA) had the best form. As he was shooting on the same target as Paul, I was able to watch him shoot the full FITA, and I also watched him quite a lot on the practice ground. His form was text-book correct. Bow weight is 58 pounds. It was obvious to me that he would win.
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20057.jpg

[James Park]

I watched our recurvers quite closely, and they each had excellent form. Tim shot very well indeed through the whole event, as did Dave.
Suzie and Thomas did not score as high as the other two but nevertheless shot quite nicely.
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20061.jpg

[James Park]

The patron for the event was Lord Coe (perhaps better known as Sebastian Coe, Olympic Champion middle distance runner).
I was able to have a good chat to him and to get his autograph. His is the Chairman of the UK bid for the 2012 Olympic Games.
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20045.jpg

[James Park]

For the team events, we recruited the New Zealanders as "honorary Australians" to assist with the barracking. Here Stephen and Jack are helping Paul and Lexie with the flag at the time our guys were beating Poland.
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20085.jpg

[Flame]

The stance of the Korean women is noted Jim :D

Did you get a prize in the Rocket final ?

[James Park]

Did you get a prize in the Rocket final ?
Alison and I did indeed get the best results, but no prize.
The trick was ensuring that we got the highest pressure in the coke bottle. I noticed that if we assembled the valve apparatus backwards from the usual approach that we were likely to have it hold much more effectively. The rocket launched when the pressure in the bottle got sufficiently high to blow the pump hose off the bottle. With our arrangement we got the pressure so high that the whole fitting blew off the back of the bottle each time, and not just the hose. I counted the number of pumps prior to the launch: most groups were getting about 20 to 25, while we were getting 54 to 56, and one of over 60. Hence, we were getting massively more pressure than others. The pressure we got was sufficiently high that the end of the bike pump got very hot, and sufficiently hotthat it burnt my finger (quite a big blister).
The other trick was to use just thr right amount of water in the bottle, and we measured this out quite carefully where others did not. Hence, our results were reasonably repeatable.
As I noted earlier, we had quite a few groups come to see how we were doing it, but none of them noticed that the valve was in backwards.
Where most groups struggled to even go the 70M to the target, we had the rocket going so hard that we had to use a very low launch angle indeed.
One of the more challenging aspects was that each time we launched we had the valve blow out of the bottle and we them had to find it on the ground somewhere. The normal usage is that it stays in the bottle. Somehow, the other groups did not seem to catch on from that that we were doing something different. Launch was quite explosive, and the first time we did it both Alison and I stood in the wrong place and got sprayed liberally with mud.

[Marcus]

It's just not fai having an engineer compete in these events. I could almost see Jim and Alison setting up 50m away from potetial splash back. :lol:

[Flame]

Well done Jim :D

Who is Alison?

[James Park]

Who is Alison?
Alison Hagaman was the Team manager.
Peter Feeney the Assistant Team Manager.
Lee Ki-Sik and I were the coaches.
Natalie was the Team physiotherapist.

[Flame]

Cheers Jim

Did you get AA to spring for a yellow or green hat? :D

[James Park]

The team did not especially like my nice blue hat (and there was a plot going to pinch it).
I did actually use an Archery Australia hat for one day, but got sun burnt. Hence, went back to the blue one.
If you think the picture with the blue hat is bad, you should have seen me wearing Tim's lucky maroon bathrobe during the team event.

[Marcus]

That is a picture we are all waiting on Jim!!

[Flame]

We are waiting Jim :D

[James Park]

We are waiting Jim :D
I don't have one. Although I am told that others do.

[James Park]

Suzie Englebright
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20058.jpg

[James Park]

Tim on the big screeen during his final.
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20076.jpg

[James Park]

Tim, Dave and Thomas in the team event vs Poland.
Dave's innovative stabilisers can be seen here.
It was during this match that we had especially good barracking from the New Zealanders.
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20083.jpg

[Flame]

We are waiting Jim :D
I don't have one. Although I am told that others do.

And who might the others be Jim.

We either get the photo or do a very bad job with photoshop :D

[CMB50]

Tim on the big screeen during his final.
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20076.jpg


Now THAT'S a Television!!! :o

[James Park]

Most of the archers stayed in an agricultural university residence. This is one of the university buildings. I have taken this picture from the middle of the campus cricket ground. Rather a nice place.
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20090.jpg

[James Park]

Regarding the large tv set:
I was told that it is the largest in the UK. When the organisers went to insure it they found that its value is 630,000 pounds. It was provided free for the event by the "London 2012" committee. It was mostly used for the matchplay events. Probably would be suitable for Flame's home theatre?

[Flame]

I would agree with that Jim :D

[Axilla]

Still only 4:3 aspect.

You'd think for

[grantwomack]

Exactly what stabilizer setup is Dave using these days? I saw pictures of these on the website but haven't seen anything like it before!

:-?

Thanks for the reports, Jim. Hoping to make it to the world champs next year - to watch, if nothing else. Any chance you'll be around for that one?

[James Park]

Grant,
I think that Dave's stabiliser is a BlackMax. By memory he is using about eight weights on it plus side rods. The bow is very heavy indeed. Custom paint job on each stabiliser. No doubt when Dave wins in Athens everyone will want a set.
Yes, would be interesting to attend the World Target next year.

[DanceswithDingoes]

How green was that grass? Forgotten what green grass looked like :o

[Tony Pearce]

I think that Dave's stabiliser is a BlackMax.

Black Max or X10?

[James Park]

Gear being used at the championships.
While I did not do a count of bows, etc, my impressions included:

Recurve:
- A lot of PSE X-factor risers (and from many countries). A mixture of W&W limbs and PSE limbs (which are actually W&W limbs anyway).
- The majority of Hoyt recurves were not the tec risers.
- Quite a few Win & Win bows.
- The Indian team mostly had old Pro Medalist risers. They were quite battered and looked well used, but they were used to great effect.
- No one make seemed to dominate, but my guess is that there were probably more W&W than others.

Compound:
- Again quite a diversity, but probably Hoyt would have been the highest number.
- Quite a few PSE's, Martin's.
- Most Hoyts were Cam&1/2 (cannot remember seeing a Spiral Cam).
- A few BowTecs (single cams, not dual cams)
- A couple of Archery Research bows (actually looked quite good). The ones I saw were AR37's.

Arrows:
- Primarily X10's, Triples, Navigators.
- A smaller number of ACE's.

Release devices:
- Mr Carter would have been very pleased.
- Braden was using a Copper John.

Shops:
- There were a number of shops on site, but they were all very small ones that I had not heard of.
- The range of gear available was quite good, but nothing especially new or revolutionary.

[grantwomack]

Which shops were there? I know Bowsports is just down the road from Lilleshall (well, by Australian standards anyway).

How did the PSE X-factor's fair in competition? I have only seen one of these being shot (and not very well at that...).

[James Park]

Bow Sports was certainly in attendance. Cannot remember the other names. Most of them set up at the competition venue. There was one the whole week at the practice venue.

The X-factors seemed to be working well. There were certainly more of them than I expected. I did notice though that with the recurve bows there was quite significant mixing of a riser of one make and limbs of a different make.

[Flame]

hey Jim someone sent me this

http://www.users.on.net/wwwsys/Images/Forum/jiminrobe.jpg

[James Park]

These were the rockets we were using:
http://www.rokit.com/

[Flame]

Rokit flies to around 30 metres (100ft)

They might need to re think that :D

[Robert de Bondt]

They might need to re think that :D

"Why is that so?", with professor Jim Park :wink:

[James Park]

This is the shooting line during the long distances of the FITA for the Juniors. Note that the archers are shooting in two groups: A&B and C&D. the juniors shot in the mornings and the Cadets in the afternoons. I have marked the positions for our three compound junior guys. Paul was on target 59.
http://www.archery-forum.com/uploads/July%202004%20065.jpg

[booloopl]

Greetings from Poland and watch some pics from Junior World Champs..
http://spolem.samodulski.com/galerie/oziteam.htm

[James Park]

Excellent pictures !!

[legend_of_sherwood]

I was on target with Scott.

[booloopl]

I'm glad that u like it..
i have put few more..
http://spolem.samodulski.com/galerie/oziteam.htm

but tell me if this pic is also excellent:)
http://spolem.samodulski.com/coaches.jpg

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[James Park]

That picture is of Alison and me on the rocket firing field. We were having a lot of fun.

[Clare Barnes]

Still waiting for the dressing gown one to surface Jim...you must have paid lots of hush money? :o

[aim4him]

hey ya'll. those pics are really great!! but i was wondering if there was any out there with the US in 'em?? I was there and have yet to see some impressive pics... if you have some just throw them out there... thanx!!

[booloopl]

Hi :),

to say the truth i don't have too many pics of the USA team..
but i will try to find more..

http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/usa/DSC00898.jpg
http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/usa/DSC01069.jpg
http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/usa/DSC01337.jpg
http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/usa/DSC00850.jpg

[booloopl]

Here u have the gallery of US team..

http://spolem.samodulski.com/galerie/usteam.htm

i wonder if u are on any of them..
??

[aim4him]

haha- well yea u managed to find the weirdest picture of me... lol. the first one with the eyes closed and all. hilarious. anyways, thanks for finding those- it was great to look through them and remember what a blast england was!! I met so many amazing people and had such a fun time! Thanks for the memories everyone....

[legend_of_sherwood]

Take a look at this:
http://www.archery-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=87735

[booloopl]

Hi,
you're welcome:)

i found sth special.. bonus pic of u :)

http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/usa/DSC01058.jpg

[booloopl]

and 3 more of your team

http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/usa/DSC00893.jpg

http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/usa/DSC01096.jpg

http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/usa/DSC01093.jpg

[Marcus]

Great photos. I have still not seen any Aussie Compounder photos though which is disappointing

[Chris]

Clare I found a photo on my computer of jime wearing the gown!

[Clare Barnes]

Clare I found a photo on my computer of jime wearing the gown!

:D is it worth blackmailing him? 8)

[booloopl]

Sorry but i don't have photos of AUS compunders.. i can only offer pics with some sweedish and other compound girls.. if u want i will prepare such gallery soon..

and for now pics of New Zealand team

http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/nz/NW3.jpg
http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/nz/NW2jpg
http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/nz/NW1jpg

[booloopl]

sorry some technical problems:)

http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/nz/NW2.jpg

http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/nz/NW1.jpg

[Zoe]

http://spolem.samodulski.com/fotki/nz/NW3.jpg


Hey, that photo's really cool booloopl. Sort of like a post-modern feminist Director's cut of Braveheart :halfrobot:

[archerybob]

Great photos. I have still not seen any Aussie Compounder photos though which is disappointing there a first on this forum

[booloopl]

As I promised ---> compound gallery

enjoy it!

http://spolem.samodulski.com/galerie/compound.htm

[The One]

Nice pics!