Is there such a rule???

[Killjoy]

If i was late for a ranking round..and i only manage to arrive on time to shoot the last 2 ends thus ranking last. Is there a FITA ruling that disqualifies me from shooting the IKO round the following day??

We just had a Double 70 shoot this weekend and one of my mates could not make it on time for the start of the ranking round. HE manage to rush over just in time to shoot the last 2 ends. I understand from the FITA rule book that he will have to forfiet the end he missed. But he can shoot the remaining 2 ends.

THe following day(This morning) the Chief Judge did not allow him to shoot in the IKO but allowed him to shoot for his team in the Team KO round later in the day. He said that this was a FITA ruling. I cannot find any such rules in the book.

ANyone ever face such a problem??

[Marcus]

No that is again BS. However you may find that if he didn't register at the shoots pre-registration in time the organisers may not allow him.
In FITA you can shoot 1 arrow and qualify

[Killjoy]

Arggghh.. No wonder the judge could not show us the rule. HE actually told us to go find the rule ourself in the rule book. :fist:

[A&O]

know who and what killjoy..
i actually told the organiser(MR T.) that it can. but he say leave it to MAJ T.

sorry i couldn't help.

[Robert de Bondt]

From the FITA Rule Book

7.7.2.5 An athlete arriving after shooting has started will forfeit the
number of arrows already shot, unless the Director of Shooting
is satisfied that the athlete was delayed by circumstances beyond
his or her control. In this case the athlete will be allowed to
make up the lost arrows after the distance then being shot is
completed, but in no circumstances may that be more than 12 arrows.
It is not possible for an athlete to make up arrows in the
Elimination and Finals Rounds.

[DrRalph]

From the FITA Rule Book

7.7.2.5 ...[snip]... It is not possible for an athlete to make up arrows in the Elimination and Finals Rounds.

Sounds like the Judge was misinterpreting. This implies that if you turn up late for the Elimination round you cannot make up arrows. Not that you cannot enter the elimination round because you were late to the ranking round the day before.

If you make the cut with only 2 ends, you still make the cut. Provided you turn up on time for the rounds the next day it should be OK.

Can't have been a huge tournament if 2 ends still makes the elimination round. :o

[Marcus]

Can't have been a huge tournament if 2 ends still makes the elimination round. :o
True, like the AA Nationals or the Olympics. ;) (both of which you can make the cut with 1 arrow shot.)

[Flame]

Can't have been a huge tournament if 2 ends still makes the elimination round. :o
True, like the AA Nationals or the Olympics. ;) (both of which you can make the cut with 1 arrow shot.)

Just as well :D

[Killjoy]

From the FITA Rule Book

7.7.2.5 An athlete arriving after shooting has started will forfeit the
number of arrows already shot, unless the Director of Shooting
is satisfied that the athlete was delayed by circumstances beyond
his or her control. In this case the athlete will be allowed to
make up the lost arrows after the distance then being shot is
completed, but in no circumstances may that be more than 12 arrows.
It is not possible for an athlete to make up arrows in the
Elimination and Finals Rounds.

Ok so i read the same thing... but i don't interpret it as "You are not allowed to shoot in the eliminaion round"

I read it as... if u are late for the elimination and missed one end.."You cannot make up for the missed end." even though the DOS might be satisfied that the delay was beyond his/her control.

This is becos the rule states that if the DOS is satisfied that the delay during the ranking round was beyond your control he may allow u to shoot the missed ends but no more then 12 arrows.

[Tim Cuddihy]

I guess theres not a lot you can do about that one. There are a lot of stupid judges out there I had a point taken from me at Junior worlds because I robin hooded an arrow and the judge deemed it a nine because the point was obviously headed for the nine even though the arrow it was stuck in was a ten

[Aarleks]

WTF??? :o :o

[DrRalph]

... I robin hooded an arrow and the judge deemed it a nine because the point was obviously headed for the nine even though the arrow it was stuck in was a ten

You're kidding! :o


7.6.2.6 An arrow hitting:
....

7.6.2.6.4 Another arrow in the nock and remaining embedded in it, will
score the same value as the arrow struck.
...


Pretty clear to me, and there is no appeal on arrow scores either! Surprising at a WC event.

Just curious, how did you handle it mentally?

[Robert de Bondt]

There are a lot of stupid judges out there I had a point taken from me at Junior worlds because I robin hooded an arrow and the judge deemed it a nine because the point was obviously headed for the nine even though the arrow it was stuck in was a ten

It never fails to amaze me the stupidity of some Judges. Talk to Killjoy :D It is a total lack of knowledge of the Rules which is even sadder because it was a World Championship and is really inexcusable. Unfortunately the Rules say "The decision of that Judge is final".

As a Judge it makes me cringe, as the stupidity of a few, taints us all. :oops:

I would hope that someone at least spoke to the Chairman of Judges and pointed out the total lack of knowledge of the Judge in question.

[Marcus]

Jim said this was appealed, was the appeal overturned?

I guess theres not a lot you can do about that one. There are a lot of stupid judges out there I had a point taken from me at Junior worlds because I robin hooded an arrow and the judge deemed it a nine because the point was obviously headed for the nine even though the arrow it was stuck in was a ten

[Guy]

Who called for a judge? Shouldn't it have been obvious to those shooting that it was a ten? Although this is an unusual occurence I thought it would be one of the better known rules.

[Killjoy]

I guess theres not a lot you can do about that one. There are a lot of stupid judges out there I had a point taken from me at Junior worlds because I robin hooded an arrow and the judge deemed it a nine because the point was obviously headed for the nine even though the arrow it was stuck in was a ten

I know how u felt at that particular moment he( the guy in red) called it a nine. :roll: :cry: