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StevenB
26-07-2004, 07:30 AM
3 archers on one target are sharing the use of a scope. The scope is set behind the line and the archers will shoot, step off the line check their arrow (or arrows, as they didn't do it for every one most of the time) and then return to the shooting line and continue shooting.
Malko
26-07-2004, 08:14 AM
Are you allowed to leave the shooting line and come back ? I don't think so... but I don't know the rules :-?
coach
26-07-2004, 08:15 AM
AND :o
Marcus
26-07-2004, 08:30 AM
Not legal and I wouldn't allow it personally as it would become disracting to other archers.
DrRalph
26-07-2004, 09:38 AM
If it disturbed the other archers a Judge would probably ask them to stop, which is most likely. While there aren't specific rules on stepping back to a scope off the line, there are rules about not disturbing archers.
If there was plenty of room and it didn't disturb anyone then it only disadvantages the archers as they lose time moving. At a local or club shoot I'd allow it unless another archer complained.
You can leave the line and return within the time limit - but you had better not carry your bow with an arrow in it, off the line. There are safely rules as well.
Flehrad
26-07-2004, 09:53 AM
what about sharing a scope on the shooting line?
For example, if the scope is in the middle position, and both outer archers come across and take a peek between shots? without going back to the waiting line.
Killjoy
26-07-2004, 10:01 AM
Walking back to check the arrow should not affect an archer. Its like shooting in a team event. But as a courtesy i guess it should not be done that way. Some times we have to do that during a local shoot when the organiser squeeze 3 shooters in one detail. The local judges did not fault any of us that time, but then again they(judges) may not know the rules anyway. :roll:
Flame
26-07-2004, 10:07 AM
you just love your judges don't you Killjoy :D
Killjoy
26-07-2004, 10:10 AM
you just love your judges don't you Killjoy :D
Oh yeah... they are pretty good..amazing how many new rules i learn each time i attend a shoot. 8)
Flame
26-07-2004, 10:59 AM
You should write a book
Fita Rules as applied in Singapore :D
DrRalph
26-07-2004, 11:11 AM
what about sharing a scope on the shooting line?
For example, if the scope is in the middle position, and both outer archers come across and take a peek between shots? without going back to the waiting line.
That is quite common for two archers to share one scope between them, and is usually allowed if there is the space. But no one wants people walking along the shooting line to get to a scope so it depends on how 'outer' they are -- they'd better be able to just lean forward and peek with the scope directly between the two archers. It works well if a lefty and a righty are matched in a lane. It is a actually good idea as it often saves space, and it less likely to disturb other arches with people walking on an off the line to get to a scope back somewhere.
The issue here is like the courtesy where if you finish first, and the other archer next to you is a full draw, you wait until they have shot before stepping back. Minimise disturbances to the archers on the line, and that is what the officials will be trying to do too.
Peter King
26-07-2004, 12:57 PM
Yep...it can be a real distraction, particularly if an archer is at full draw. The lefty/righty combination is probably the only acceptable sharing of a scope in competition and then only if it is done carefully.
Flehard wrote:
The issue here is like the courtesy where if you finish first, and the other archer next to you is a full draw, you wait until they have shot before stepping back. Minimise disturbances to the archers on the line, and that is what the officials will be trying to do too.
Good point. This is an excellent convention, in target and particularly in 2 up Field situations, but it is too often honoured in its breach rather than observance.
We need to teach these points of competition etiquette to beginners and even to some experienced archers.
The problem with relying on an archer to call for a judge to intervene in disturbance is that it makes a major issue of it Far better to fix it through education.
Marcus
26-07-2004, 01:05 PM
Flehard wrote:
The issue here is like the courtesy where if you finish first, and the other archer next to you is a full draw, you wait until they have shot before stepping back. Minimise disturbances to the archers on the line, and that is what the officials will be trying to do too.
Good point. This is an excellent convention, in target and particularly in 2 up Field situations, but it is too often honoured in its breach rather than observance.
We need to teach these points of competition etiquette to beginners and even to some experienced archers.
The problem with relying on an archer to call for a judge to intervene in disturbance is that it makes a major issue of it Far better to fix it through education.
See I hate that one. I find it distracting when people stand there waiting for me. Shoot your shots and get off the line. Movement doesn't bother me, but waiting for me can. (maybe shouldn't have said that. :lol: )
Peter King
26-07-2004, 01:09 PM
Marcus,
Just tell your shooting partners that you prefer they move while you are shooting...
the practice is a courtesy and a good one, which I really learnt shooting field with Alan Weston years ago.
Malko
26-07-2004, 01:13 PM
Thinking of that, I sometimes say "Sh*t", or "whoops" or stupid things like that when I shoot a bad arrow. I realize that it can disturb the shooters around me even though I don't say it loud.
any rules about talking on the line ?
Flame
26-07-2004, 01:26 PM
Bloody hell this is starting to sound like and english gentlemens club.
I shoot and piss off the line. Some people take ages to get a shot off.
Thanks for the tip Marcus :D
making verbal comments at bad shots is quite acceptable.
With the noise at comps you have to get used to it.
Farting however is not aceptable unless you are shooting 60+ veterens or with 2dogs :D
Killjoy
26-07-2004, 01:46 PM
See I hate that one. I find it distracting when people stand there waiting for me. Shoot your shots and get off the line. Movement doesn't bother me, but waiting for me can. (maybe shouldn't have said that. :lol: )
Haaa.. I got a friend who is the direct opposite of u, she rather i remain on the shooting line till she finish her end. Think its due to me size.. I am big enuff to shield some of the wind from her.. :rofl:
Malko
26-07-2004, 02:24 PM
and probably shield for the vets farting too I suppose then :o :lol:
unclepete
29-07-2004, 07:47 PM
You should write a book
Fita Rules as applied in Singapore :D
The way Killjoy tells it - you'd have to rewrite it every tournament
Killjoy
29-07-2004, 11:43 PM
You should write a book
Fita Rules as applied in Singapore :D
The way Killjoy tells it - you'd have to rewrite it every tournament
Nah... just add on... We could design it like the Aircraft Technical Manual where we could just insert leaflets when new rules are added. :lol: :lol:
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