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Jay.G
13-07-2005, 10:58 AM
Mm was wondering what is happening with the delay of the production line, why is there a 5 month waiting all of the sudden? something wrong with the desighn of the risers?

Flehrad
13-07-2005, 11:08 AM
All of a sudden???

There's always a delay when it comes to Hoyt products.
They manufacture on demand as far as I am aware instead of stockpiling products.

There have been plenty of woeful stories from people in the US who have been waiting since November for their ordered bows.

I think they produce their camo coated stuff first as the market for hunting bows is probably more important in terms of sales.

Jay.G
13-07-2005, 12:03 PM
Mm its just b4 this it was pretty easy to get your hands on a hoyt bow from the US and other places but now i already asked almost everystore in AUS and NZ and US and all said 'we got a 5 month delay'

Thought it was like something wrong with the desighn of the bow or something so they have to stop.

Brad
13-07-2005, 12:18 PM
Funny, I only waited 4 weeks.

.................Matthews on the other hand :-?

abaggs
13-07-2005, 12:23 PM
CNC machines only go so fast. When they don't stockpile and they have a huge demand, this sorta delay happens :roll: Seems crazy they don't start producing them earlier :-?

Pinky
13-07-2005, 01:01 PM
For target bows, I think some of the delay is due to the anodizing process. I have heard that there are very few anodizing companies in the US and even fewer (like 1) who have the skills to reproduce the colour schemes Hoyt have designed for their bows. This company is under high demand from many industries, so no matter how fast Hoyt can manufacture the bows, they will still get held up during anodizing.

As Flehrad said the camo bows are in high demand during hunting season, so very few target bows (if any) are produced during this time. My dad was in Salt Lake City (the home of Hoyt) during the hunting season a few years ago and thought he might try to pick up some gear, but alas no target bows were available :( .

Archangel
13-07-2005, 01:19 PM
I suspect the problem is they don't have capacity to meet demand - and they can't stockpile without delaying the announcement of the riser in question, which isn't actually going to improve anything.

They've never been fast ('specially if you're outside the US) but it sounds like things have gotten worse...

Clare Barnes
13-07-2005, 01:21 PM
I just got Hoyt M1 limbs - 3.5 months after placing the order. Well worth the wait though! :D

Jay.G
13-07-2005, 02:27 PM
O the limbs i think are not a problem but just the riser. BW, how are the M1 limbs?

Marcus
13-07-2005, 02:55 PM
Hey Brad that's not a fair assessment, the Mathews you ordered was an Apex and a new model too. Since then we have been getting the quickly, only delays have been on non-standard configs.

Limbs we are being quoted 6-8 weeks from Hoyt and 5 months for the Matrix riser.

Brad
13-07-2005, 03:20 PM
I meant that Matthews was not any quicker than Hoyt. I waited months for the Matthews before pulling the pin. I know that Hoyt1 didn't have to wait that long and I ordered mine before he ordered his.

I am not bashing Matthews, but wanted to point out that it is not just Hoyt. All the companies do the same thing. They introduce a new model in Oct and there is no way you will get it this side of christmas (most likely not til about march) :x :x :x

Marcus
13-07-2005, 03:22 PM
Yeah the release of bows in October is a bit crappy when they usually ship in he following year.

Gunzer
13-07-2005, 03:43 PM
I think it's got something to do with supply and demand. Low supply, high price, High supply low price, less profit.

If someone floods the market with a lot of premium quality bows, imagine you'll be able to get a competition ready equipment for under Au$280.

Jay.G
13-07-2005, 04:03 PM
[/quote]I think it's got something to do with supply and demand. Low supply, high price, High supply low price, less profit.

If someone floods the market with a lot of premium quality bows, imagine you'll be able to get a competition ready equipment for under Au$280.

Mm that would be nice, real real nice 8)

Eolla
13-07-2005, 05:30 PM
Hoyt send to Europe first then USA and finally the Pacific. Try Alt services and the other big Euro dealers

Marcus
13-07-2005, 05:36 PM
That's not true Eolla.
We deal with JVD and they are quoting 5 months wait on Matrixs as well.
It's first in first served.

grantwomack
13-07-2005, 05:44 PM
If someone floods the market with a lot of premium quality bows, imagine you'll be able to get a competition ready equipment for under Au$280.
You already can... And it's only $150! ;) :lol:

Jay.G
13-07-2005, 06:12 PM
Euro dealers, i don't like to order from there soo much national companies instead of international and the price are not exactly that pocket-wise.

Unless anyone here speaks fluent, french or spanish 8)

hoyt for life 2
14-07-2005, 05:57 PM
good things take time

if you weight a few months the 2006 stuff will be relesed.

Jay.G
14-07-2005, 05:59 PM
Don't forget about the new zealand nationals, i dont want to use my W&W trigger for that.

hoyt for life 2
15-07-2005, 04:54 PM
just use archalgels other bow.

dbjac
15-07-2005, 07:50 PM
i think a lot of the problem with hoyt bows is probably to do with production cycles. I would imagine that they would do a run of maybe ultratec risers, then a run of protec... etc... and the same with anodising colours... so if you miss a run of you riser and colour, you'll have to wait untill they get through the cycle again... also, if you aren't a 'stereotypically archer' (ie, 28" draw, 50-60#, right hander) you are more likely to miss the cycle as i'd imagine less of these bows are produced

Archangel
15-07-2005, 08:14 PM
just use archalgels other bow.
Yeah right - that thing's getting set up for 3D at the Nats - if you think you can handle 52lb for a FITA, go right ahead :-P

hoyt for life 2
16-07-2005, 05:54 AM
just use archalgels other bow.
Yeah right - that thing's getting set up for 3D at the Nats - if you think you can handle 52lb for a FITA, go right ahead :-P sure give me a couple of years pratice and i will.

puddin
16-07-2005, 01:44 PM
ill gladly have a good at shooting 52 pounds. :o sounds like a challenge. dont think i could do it for a fita tho.

:lol:

The One
16-07-2005, 04:14 PM
I could do it! Just not well... :cry:

Jay.G
16-07-2005, 05:23 PM
52lb, that will dislocate my shoulder, once and for all. :-?

hoyt for life 2
17-07-2005, 09:01 AM
wich would be harder, a 52 pound aerotec or a 100 pound bowtech alegiance(i think thats the one that goes to 100 pound)

Gunzer
17-07-2005, 10:53 AM
just use archalgels other bow.
Yeah right - that thing's getting set up for 3D at the Nats - if you think you can handle 52lb for a FITA, go right ahead :-P
Barnsy shoots at 53lbs FITA...

I reckon it's cool... Imagine the arrow spine, weight and velocity of the arrow when shot. That's the reason I'm motivated to push/pull weights to go as high as FITA's compound limit... but with a recurve bow.

puddin
17-07-2005, 03:10 PM
you must be nuts to wana shoot 60 pounds with a recurve. seems fairly excessive to me.
but hey i only shoot a 56 pound compound and that enough for me.

Archangel
17-07-2005, 05:47 PM
Barnsy shoots at 53lbs FITA...

I reckon it's cool... Imagine the arrow spine, weight and velocity of the arrow when shot. That's the reason I'm motivated to push/pull weights to go as high as FITA's compound limit... but with a recurve bow.
Yeah, I know - he was having trouble finding some arrows stiff enough at one point I think :-)

I've shot 50 consistently before - I'm not really tall enough to pull off any more though.