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mstore
14-07-2005, 02:55 AM
my drawlength is pretty short... Isn

Brumbies Country
14-07-2005, 04:31 AM
[quote=mstore]my drawlength is pretty short... Isn

PeterH
14-07-2005, 05:17 AM
Either combination will work but the short limbs in a 25" riser give more speed over distance than the layman would expect.

An engineer in the club said it had something to do with the potential energy stored in the smaller surface area of the limb.

I have used both of the setups mentioned. There is a distinct speed advantage.

The downside is not so much the finger pinch as that can be solved with careful finger placement.

The downside I found is that the additional energy in the limb makes arrow selection difficult.

For example with the 23" handle & medium (68") limbs, I used Cartel 900 Triples with 100 grain points.
With the same bow weight, now I am using Cartel 800 Triples with 90 grain points and really I think I should be using Cartel 700s. The 800s are acting as though they are a little soft.

toxic_rabbit
14-07-2005, 06:53 AM
I have shot both short and long too.

I have a set of 68' and 70' FX's both shot out of the same 25' riser both
sets 44#.

I was never happy with the tune that I was able to achieve with the 68'
setup, nosy and unstable. But with the 70' setup you can barely hear my
bow at all, I mean it is so quiet I have people asking me how I did it. And
it shots fantastically. I am using the same arrows. They were the right
spine originally so I have not seen any change. Excepting the changes in
my form that now mean that I need 30' arrows and I have 29.5' ones.
This is gonna be an expensive exercise as I have x10s :(

I use the 68" limbs on another riser for spt, when I get around to doing it,
and they stack a whole lot more and pinch like hell. The 70" setup feels
so much better.

Basically it all hinges on your draw length, if it is sitting on the borderline
between the 66" and 68" I would personally recommend going for the
longer setup. It is more stable (as ppl have said) and it is way nicer to
shoot.

With you and your riser selection, a while back all the top guns had a play
with using short risers and longer limbs to try and get a speed advantage,
ie. To get a 68" bow, which is the most common setup, they were using a
23" riser and 70" limbs. This didn

Brumbies Country
14-07-2005, 06:56 AM
Either combination will work but the short limbs in a 25" riser give more speed over distance than the layman would expect.

An engineer in the club said it had something to do with the potential energy stored in the smaller surface area of the limb.

I have used both of the setups mentioned. There is a distinct speed advantage.

The downside is not so much the finger pinch as that can be solved with careful finger placement.

The downside I found is that the additional energy in the limb makes arrow selection difficult.

For example with the 23" handle & medium (68") limbs, I used Cartel 900 Triples with 100 grain points.
With the same bow weight, now I am using Cartel 800 Triples with 90 grain points and really I think I should be using Cartel 700s. The 800s are acting as though they are a little soft.

Just wondered what bow weight and draw lenth Peter? For the same 23" handle and 68" limbs I found neither Cartel X-pert 740's or 660's shot particularly well at 32lbs but ACE 670's that I actually got for my 36lbs Masters set-up are shooting comparitively well with 90grain points. Theoretically this spine should be too high.

PeterH
14-07-2005, 05:46 PM
Just wondered what bow weight and draw lenth Peter? For the same 23" handle and 68" limbs I found neither Cartel X-pert 740's or 660's shot particularly well at 32lbs but ACE 670's that I actually got for my 36lbs Masters set-up are shooting comparitively well with 90grain points. Theoretically this spine should be too high.

26" draw length.

44# at my draw on both limbs

800 Cartels, 600 X10 on 66" set up.

900 Cartels on 68" set up.

The One
14-07-2005, 07:43 PM
[quote=mstore]my drawlength is pretty short... Isn

puddin
15-07-2005, 07:39 AM
umm if im not mistaken the one if you put medium limbs on a 23' riser you will get a 66' bow. to get 68' you will need long limbs.

but anyways. i think that a 25 inch riser is nicer to shoot and if you want a 68' bow get the medium limbs.

personaly when i was shooting recurve i shoot a 25' riser and short limbs on a 28' draw and i had no problems with pinch or anything it was fast and smooth to shoot.

if you can the best thing would be to try the two risers with the same overall bow length

The One
15-07-2005, 07:47 AM
Whoops! Yeah, that was supposed to be a 25 :oops:

Brumbies Country
15-07-2005, 08:05 AM
I have shot both short and long too.

I have a set of 68' and 70' FX's both shot out of the same 25' riser both
sets 44#.



I think it all comes down to personal preference in the end, also
confidence in your gear. If you find it more comfortable shooting a
particular setup go with that, if you have confidence in your gear you will
always shoot it way better. Advice is all personally biased anyway ;)

I would defiantly try to shoot both setups if you can that will give you a
much clearer vision of what you may want. Speed is not necicerally what
you should be looking for, comfort will be better in the long run.

As for Samick over the KAP, Samick is definatly the way to go :)

Rob

TR provided a lot of really good information in his post in addition to this, but confidence in the gear and comfort are of critical importance, and there is a bit of a tendency on all our parts to emphasize speed. The majority consensus emerging is that the 25" riser and medium limbs are preferable and that the restrictions of the bow window of the 23" limbs may be a critical factor. One thing that perhaps hasn't been considered here is the weight of the bow. In a post some time ago Dances with Dingoes compared riser weights of some 25-30 recurve bows. From memory the Mizar came out the lightest and this may be of critical importance for somebody who because of physical build or possibly physical impairment, may wish to shoot a lighter riser. Bit of a special case scenario but worthy of consideration.