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iowahawk
16-07-2005, 10:12 AM
I have decided to make the switch to recurve after several years of compound shooting. I shoot my compound right handed but am left eye dominant. Do you feel that starting left handed with a recurve will benefit me any or should i stick with right handed shooting?
Another question i have is what equipment will be good for a beginner without breaking the bank? I hope someday to be competitive with a recurve so i want something to start with that i can grow into.

Thank you, Kevin

Eolla
16-07-2005, 12:22 PM
Stay right handed, close your left eye. You are in the US so Ebay has a good choice of used recurves. Start with a Hoyt GM and then look for something that you like once your scores are up.

The One
16-07-2005, 12:44 PM
I wouldn't recommend closing an eye - there have been a number of threads on this in the past. You don't need to train your other eye to become dominant, rather than train yourself to use a certain sight picture. FITA are now recommending that novices use equipment based on handedness instead of eye dominance. I would go with handedness instead of eye dominance, unless you have a serious problem with one eye. Anyways, there's a lot more right-handed equipment out there, so it will be easier to buy/sell 2nd hand bows.

apexrob
16-07-2005, 04:52 PM
I wouldn't recommend closing an eye - there have been a number of threads on this in the past. You don't need to train your other eye to become dominant, rather than train yourself to use a certain sight picture. FITA are now recommending that novices use equipment based on handedness instead of eye dominance. I would go with handedness instead of eye dominance, unless you have a serious problem with one eye. Anyways, there's a lot more right-handed equipment out there, so it will be easier to buy/sell 2nd hand bows.

opps , I won a world title with one eye closed . hahahaha . I've always shot with one eyeclosed, don't tell fita that though . :lol:

JackWilkins
20-07-2005, 05:32 AM
I think if your left eye dominant then see if you can borrow or have a go with a left handed bow. if you like it then stick with it, if you dont change to right handed.
you might be used to shooting right handed, but if your left eye dominant, then you never know - it might improve your scores if you make the switch. it wont take longto get used to shooting left handed either, it will just feel a bit strange at first

The One
20-07-2005, 02:14 PM
opps , I won a world title with one eye closed . hahahaha . I've always shot with one eyeclosed, don't tell fita that though . :lol:

I'm not saying that you will shoot badly with one eye closed, rather that it is usually more ideal for archers to use both eyes. Relaxes tension in the eyes, prevents many other problems which can be found if you search these other threads.

Archangel
20-07-2005, 02:20 PM
opps , I won a world title with one eye closed . hahahaha . I've always shot with one eyeclosed, don't tell fita that though . :lol:
Out of interest, what world title was it?

Brocky
20-07-2005, 04:29 PM
What problems may they be ? a current archer in Australia shoots with one eye and wears a patch and shoots around 1220 :o :roll:

Archangel
20-07-2005, 05:32 PM
What problems may they be ? a current archer in Australia shoots with one eye and wears a patch and shoots around 1220 :o :roll:
Look, he never said you can't shoot decent scores with one eye closed; he just said it's considered to be better to shoot with both open.

Brocky
20-07-2005, 07:26 PM
No he stated it prevents many problems what are they :roll:

gt
20-07-2005, 10:25 PM
Reasons to shoot with both eyes open:

-More relaxed, less fatigue
-Better visual acuity with two eyes open than one (~40% or so)

Reasons to close one eye:

-The wankers in the gallery who insist on shooting you in the face with a camera flash whilst following you around 3/4ths of the targets at the World Games

:lol:

Dave Barnes
20-07-2005, 10:31 PM
thats what you get for being famous :P

2Dogs
20-07-2005, 10:35 PM
:rofl:

Life's tough at the Top

frommy
20-07-2005, 10:36 PM
:)

I have never had that problem, gt. :(

Bia
21-07-2005, 12:55 AM
Me neither. hehehe

But anyway, It

Brocky
21-07-2005, 09:08 AM
gt it is obvious the you are not one with the bow and not at the top of your game, maybe you should close one eye or contact The One and Archangle for some guidance in this area :o

The One
21-07-2005, 03:31 PM
No he stated it prevents many problems what are they :roll:

As I said, do a search for the threads, there are many issues discussed, which I can't be bothered remembering.

You appear to feel very strongly about the subject. Would you be willing to state that you believe it makes no difference, or that shooting with one eye open is better?

Shirt
21-07-2005, 04:28 PM
gt it is obvious the you are not one with the bow and not at the top of your game,

Well, I dunno about you, but I think competing at a world level is near the top of the game...

How many times have you been there and done that, Brocky? :roll:

Brocky
21-07-2005, 05:19 PM
I must apologise to you skirt for any remarks I may have made in the past 3 years since I've been ranked in the top 50 archers on the world Fita ranking list. :roll:
The One I think the statement "I could not be bothered remembering" shows how seriously we should take your advice givin here as you could not be bothered.
I feel strongly enough to state that self preference is the key to this.

Shirt
21-07-2005, 05:34 PM
In that case I was obviously mistaken...

I guess my memory is going, I didn't recall you having been selected for any Australian teams for (say) World Target or World Field championships, or equivalent level events... My apologies. :)

The One
21-07-2005, 06:22 PM
I must apologise to you skirt for any remarks I may have made in the past 3 years since I've been ranked in the top 50 archers on the world Fita ranking list. :roll:
The One I think the statement "I could not be bothered remembering" shows how seriously we should take your advice givin here as you could not be bothered.
I feel strongly enough to state that self preference is the key to this.

If you don't want to take my advice, then don't. And if you want me to expand on what I said before, it is mostly that I can't remember all of the points, as there are many good ones. If you want to know so much, then find the thread. You could always contribute more than just sarcastic remarks and insults...

Brocky
21-07-2005, 07:44 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

The One
21-07-2005, 07:56 PM
comme ca

frommy
21-07-2005, 08:23 PM
gt it is obvious the you are not one with the bow and not at the top of your game,

Well, I dunno about you, but I think competing at a world level is near the top of the game...

How many times have you been there and done that, Brocky? :roll:

Again the point has been missed by you Brocky.

gt has just represented USA in World Games and previously in World Field in Croatia.

Brocky
21-07-2005, 08:29 PM
So you have to now compete at World Games to compete at world level :roll:
The One you cvan be such a gungable.

Archangel
21-07-2005, 08:57 PM
So you have to now compete at World Games to compete at world level :roll:
That isn't what frommy said; he said that gt has competed at world level because he competed in a World Games. He didn't say that was the only requirement - obviously Madrid would count too, for example.

Shirt
21-07-2005, 08:57 PM
Well, since the world ranking list is based on Quantity/Quality, if you do a couple of National Championships where other people on the ranking list attend in a short space of time, you'll jump right the hell up there. And if you can find one that is combined with a Continental championship, that's bonus points. All you've got to do then is get somewhere near the top and you grab a bunch of points and a ranking place.

And you don't have to compete at the World Games to compete at a world level... but it helps! World level is World Target/World Field/World Games. Hmm, strange... they've all got World in the event name!

The One
22-07-2005, 07:23 AM
The One you cvan be such a gungable.

Ummmm....Thanks? :-?

I think what everyone is trying to say here, brocky, is that you are deliberately misinterpreting people's posts in order to stir an argument.

*Cue a sarcastic response*...

Brocky
22-07-2005, 08:44 AM
Ah thanks for the advice I now know which to aim for. Keeping that in mind would World Masters come into play then, off course this contains the word World as you have pointed out.










The One yes but it helps with the number of posts you are still a gungable or a walla walla depands on the language used :roll:

Marcus
22-07-2005, 08:48 AM
OK I'm tired of it.
Next one to take a shot at the other (Brocky and The One) is finding another forum to visit.
This is the only warning.

Go ahead, try me out.

Brocky
24-07-2005, 11:17 AM
So where does the World master sit in relationship to other World events.

Shirt
24-07-2005, 10:16 PM
Is it open entry, like an IFAA World Champs, or is a team selected for it by Archer Australia (or some other bunch)?

To my mind, World level means selection. It's entirely possible for someone to turn up at an IFAA-style open Championship and be a "champion" by virtue of being the only left-handed compound bowhunter with purple socks and six toes. Or similar. :wink: :wink: :lol:

The One
25-07-2005, 05:44 AM
:rofl:

Archangel
25-07-2005, 06:54 AM
So where does the World master sit in relationship to other World events.
I think it's safe to say it doesn't carry the same status as the World Target champs.

I agree with Shirt - we had an incident a while back where some club in NZ hosted an IFAA indoor 'world champs'. There were about ten or twenty archers there, practically all from New Zealand - it wouldn't have even qualified as a FITA World Ranking event.
I can't help but think that this sort of thing detracts from people who have won real events.

Clare Barnes
25-07-2005, 07:25 AM
Is it open entry, like an IFAA World Champs, or is a team selected for it by Archer Australia (or some other bunch)?

To my mind, World level means selection. It's entirely possible for someone to turn up at an IFAA-style open Championship and be a "champion" by virtue of being the only left-handed compound bowhunter with purple socks and six toes. Or similar. :wink: :wink: :lol:

That matches the description of some of the divisions at the World Masters in Melbourne quite well.... :D

And yes, I think World Masters Games are always open entry.

Bottom Dweller
25-07-2005, 08:04 AM
I have a solution....include Archery in the "Special Olympics" :wink:

Archangel
25-07-2005, 08:59 AM
I have a solution....include Archery in the "Special Olympics" :wink:
Hmmmm.... deadly weapons in the hands of mentally disabled people. Can't see anything going wrong there...

Bottom Dweller
25-07-2005, 09:08 AM
can't see anything going wrong there...

Perhaps they could have a "Bowless Division".... a bit like the World Air Guitar championships :D

I'm sure they'd be very happy, as long as they get a medal and a World Ranking :wink:

Shirt
25-07-2005, 04:50 PM
Well, hell, it'd put form ahead of score... so it'd also be perfect for all these Korean wannabes that can't hit sh*t.

"Oh, I know, my first arrow went in the two and the other two missed, but look at my superb shoulder alignment and perfect Korean followthrough! It's the target's fault for being more than six feet away..."

:lol: :lol: