View Full Version : Weight restriction for Masters
James Park
21-07-2005, 04:32 PM
How is this for an idea:
Our older archers can elect to shoot in either the Masters or Open divisions.
Generally they would elect to shoot in the Masters division if they regard the 90M as too far (which is quite a valid and reasonable reason).
Without having to shoot the 90M, there seems to me to be little reason for them to have to use the full 60 pounds allowed for compound.
Hence, would it be reasonable to say that in addition to the age requirement for entry into the masters division that there could also be a maximum draw weight limitation of 50 pounds? It might be much fairer.
It might then also be possible to have competitions between the Open archers shooting the full FITA but allowed to use 60 pounds and the Masters shooting the shorter FITA but with 50 pounds.
Bottom Dweller
21-07-2005, 04:57 PM
Great idea,
I think it would be very healthy to have a weight restrictions for Masters. I know a few masters who are very over weight and could loose a few pounds. :D
Oh you mean bow draw weight restrictions. :wink:
Flame
21-07-2005, 06:00 PM
Good ideas Jim :D
Clare Barnes
21-07-2005, 06:03 PM
Good ideas Jim :D
Rubbish! It's just Jim deciding he is too old for 90m and 60lbs and wanting to compete as a Master but not be beaten by other old farts who can cope with 60lbs! :lol: Right Jim? :wink:
James Park
21-07-2005, 06:08 PM
We could make it that if you compete as a 60+ the round changes to a Fremantle and the maximum weight to 40 pounds.
Also has the advantage that as you get older and weaker you will still be able to pull your arrows out of stramit targets.
Sort of an "automatic handicap system". If you want to use 60 pounds you are obliged to shoot the full FITA, regardless of your age. That way we remove some of the "I shoot the oldies group so I can get my medal" problem and have archers shooting in the right divisions for the right reasons.
Clare Barnes
21-07-2005, 06:14 PM
We could make it that if you compete as a 60+ the round changes to a Fremantle and the maximum weight to 40 pounds.
That close to 60 are you? :roll: :D
James Park
21-07-2005, 06:16 PM
That close to 60 are you? :roll: :D
Getting closer. Leigh is 60 this year.
BrokenArr0w
21-07-2005, 06:27 PM
sorry jim, but i would not agree with you on this matter, like i sayed in the ''peak weight draw restictions' thread.
i believe that the affects and dangers of being 'over-bowed' should be advertised and to leave the decision to the shooter, insted of restrictions.
Clare Barnes
21-07-2005, 06:32 PM
Hey bigfella - we need comment from the ancient on this one! What do you reckon about less poundage, or just competing with the big boys? :D
Marcus
21-07-2005, 06:54 PM
I think the agreesive cams could be an issue. Perhaps limiting the bows to only round wheel bows and no stabilizers (too heavy)
I think the agreesive cams could be an issue. Perhaps limiting the bows to only round wheel bows and no stabilizers (too heavy)
You're joking?
Clare Barnes
21-07-2005, 09:00 PM
I think the agreesive cams could be an issue. Perhaps limiting the bows to only round wheel bows and no stabilizers (too heavy)
You're joking?
Marcus? Never.
Marianne Rieckmann
22-07-2005, 08:55 AM
I think it is a good idea, in that it will encourage people who are strong and able to handle the open competition, to shoot in the open division.
I think it is a good idea for juniors as well as masters/vets. On a sliding scale so that the weight restriction is suitable for the round shot in that division.
Having said that, I must note that I have never been a junior in the sport, and have a long way to go to being a master... :wink:
Brian Politis
22-07-2005, 03:39 PM
Don't you think there are enough rules, regulations and restrictions now? Since it is only a game we are playing here, how about we leave it alone.
Don't you think there are enough rules, regulations and restrictions now? Since it is only a game we are playing here, how about we leave it alone.
I think that speaks volumes !
Peter King
22-07-2005, 03:59 PM
Come on guys...surely you can see James is taking the mickey :lol:
Clare Barnes
22-07-2005, 04:08 PM
Come on guys...surely you can see James is taking the mickey :lol:
Don't point that out yet - it's just getting interesting! :D
bigfella
27-07-2005, 08:44 PM
Hey bigfella - we need comment from the ancient on this one! What do you reckon about less poundage, or just competing with the big boys? :D
Well, Clare, at 61 and shooting open now, I suppose that I am qualified in some measure to make comment on this thread. The other qualification of course is the amount of flack that I have received for applying my age and shooting Masters or Veteran when the mood takes hold. Not that I am failing to improve my archery as I have been shooting better recently than I have done at any other time since I began in the sport 4 years ago.
Personally speaking, my view is that the present rules provide the handicap for older shooters by allowing those who meet age requirements to shoot shorter rounds than the full FITA. They do not say that you can't shoot the Womens FITA if you shoot 60lb. IMHO, the age concession is supposed to deal with the natural decline in physical strength and failing eyesight. Does shooting 60lb in a Women's FITA give the Master archer (over age 50) any advantage over one shooting 50lb? Personally, I think the physical ability to hold the aim on the spot is the crucial difference here. I am fully aware of my increasing difficulty in doing this and I have to work harder now to maintain my ability to hold my aim than I did a couple of years ago.
So, I have to support Brian Politis here. You don't need further restrictions to make the competition any more effective. If you can't pull the bow back and hold your aim appropriately to compete in Open and you meet the age requirements of Masters or Veteran, shoot the division where you are allowed the distance concessions appropriate to your age.
You will still find the competition pretty hot. :angel:
2Dogs
27-07-2005, 09:36 PM
I think when you hit 50, you should be banned from shooting.
That'll get rid of 90% of the equipment failures, and move me from 4th to 2nd in most cases :D
Dam Old Farts.....we should use them for 3D Targets!! :D
Brocky
27-07-2005, 10:23 PM
or take up cross bow
Clare Barnes
28-07-2005, 07:17 AM
Bigfella - perhaps you, Brian and Kuru need to read Peter King's post ... I think it is about the most truthful one on this thread! :wink:
bigfella
28-07-2005, 09:14 AM
Bigfella - perhaps you, Brian and Kuru need to read Peter King's post ... I think it is about the most truthful one on this thread! :wink:
Perhaps he is, perhaps he is not.
bigfella
28-07-2005, 09:14 AM
Bigfella - perhaps you, Brian and Kuru need to read Peter King's post ... I think it is about the most truthful one on this thread! :wink:
Perhaps he is, perhaps he is not.
You asked for input and input you got :wink:
Brian Politis
28-07-2005, 04:27 PM
Love you too Paul........ :D
James Park
28-07-2005, 05:23 PM
Bigfella - perhaps you, Brian and Kuru need to read Peter King's post ... I think it is about the most truthful one on this thread! :wink:
But of course. :P
2Dogs
28-07-2005, 05:39 PM
Love you too Paul........
Kiss Kiss Sweetie :rofl:
bigfella
28-07-2005, 08:52 PM
Bigfella - perhaps you, Brian and Kuru need to read Peter King's post ... I think it is about the most truthful one on this thread! :wink:
But of course. :P
Come on Jim, you know that you shouldn't take the mickey out of the seriously innocent :lol:
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