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    Hoyt 2014

    Is this a teaser?

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    probably not
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    it kinda looks like a carbon shoot through

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    It looks photo shopped to me.

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    Don't spoil the dream 😉
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    Strong rumours are that a target model carbon bow is in the mix.
    hmmm. All part of the very smart Hoyt marketing anticipation fun.
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    unfortunately I don't think that that is a carbon bow. there are no signs of moulded-in hardpoints for the assorted mountings, and I doubt very much that the mounts for the cable slide rod could be done like that in composite. the angles suggest a machined alloy riser to me, too sharp - look at the cut up the back of the TEC bar, and the cutout windows.

    it's apparently a reasonably long ATA bow from the string angle, and the glimpse of the pocket at the bottom suggests a relatively conventional front-mounted pocket - the stresses involved in that are not really where carbon's strengths lie.

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    on archerytalk the general thought is a hoyt carbon spider, their seemed to be a magazine advertisement with the spider logo in carbon and it said new for fall 2013 or similar so that could be interesting to see

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    agreed, maybe it's a current model, anyway ?
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    It's a PCE XL, there's another photo somewhere of the side. Pimp as **** though.

    He's not really important enough to be pioneering a 2014 bow early, so I doubt it's indicative of the 2014 colours.

    I can't see them changing the lineup (other than the revised AirShox pockets). And I'll go on record saying there won't be a "carbon target bow", can't think of anything worse.

    I'm hoping for a new range of colours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbjac View Post
    It's a PCE XL, there's another photo somewhere of the side. Pimp as **** though.

    He's not really important enough to be pioneering a 2014 bow early, so I doubt it's indicative of the 2014 colours.

    I can't see them changing the lineup (other than the revised AirShox pockets). And I'll go on record saying there won't be a "carbon target bow", can't think of anything worse.

    I'm hoping for a new range of colours.
    It's a normal bow that he re-colored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbjac View Post
    I'm hoping for a new range of colours.
    hardly innovation. I'd rather see some technological leaps. it can't be that hard to make a 38" CM.
    Last edited by scott p; 5th October 2013 at 04:33 PM.

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    No one but you would buy one Scott.
    I'm pretty sure there isn't a single carbon bow here, but a few 33" bows.

    That went better than expected, was hoping you'ld all get excited by a colour and instead assumed it to be carbon. =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    No one but you would buy one Scott.
    I'm pretty sure there isn't a single carbon bow here, but a few 33" bows.

    That went better than expected, was hoping you'ld all get excited by a colour and instead assumed it to be carbon. =D
    AT is amusing. The speed freaks all want another faster short carbon.
    Some of the predictions & wishes are way off what most of us on here would like to see
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    The reality is that general consumers don't know what they want.
    Works the same in other industries. Then truly innovative companies who DESIGN the products always give us what will actually work well.
    I don't remember Hoyt making many bows based on general consensus, and they build great products because of it.
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    pretty sure I know what I'd like. I don't claim to be the engineer who works out the details, that's what I pay Hoyt to do.

    if all that's on offer is stuff like a minute change to cam shape, a moved noise suppression system that target shooters don't care about anyway, or a different shade of blue, then there's nothing that makes me want to give Hoyt $1700 for a bow that's not a substantive improvement on what I have now. I'd very much like to buy a new bow to play with, but I'm not just going to buy the best of what's on offer if it's not what I want. if so I shout my current rig a new harness and a birthday, and I shoot it another year.

    re consensus - I'd say that 99.9% of the people out there with V8 cars have no need of one. if manufacturers only designed what they think we need, we'd all be driving a white hybrid Camry. but the markets fulfil wants as much as needs.

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    well said, Scott.
    I accept the fact that most in the US want a harsh draw 5" brace height 30" speedfreak bow to kill a moose with, but I sure as hell don't.

    Fortunately Hoyt usually read the target compound market well, hence their domination of it
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    If stupidly fast speed bows is what the majority of the US market wanted, then those companies would be the dominant companies. Hoyt and Mathews dominate with non-speed bows for a reason.

    This is going to be an interesting release for the target shooters I think. Can't wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Fortunately Hoyt usually read the target compound market well, hence their domination of it
    Ozzy... it's spelt $domination$
    Or possibly $donation$

    And that's not criticism.... I shoot one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    If stupidly fast speed bows is what the majority of the US market wanted, then those companies would be the dominant companies. Hoyt and Mathews dominate with non-speed bows for a reason.

    This is going to be an interesting release for the target shooters I think. Can't wait.
    I'd like to see the Spiral return to a speed bow. Hmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    well said, Scott.
    I accept the fact that most in the US want a harsh draw 5" brace height 30" speedfreak bow to kill a moose with, but I sure as hell don't.

    Fortunately Hoyt usually read the target compound market well, hence their domination of it
    I also fully accept that the majority of the world market is driven by hunting, and that means people who want a 400FPS bow with 85% letoff that's only 33" ATA and weighs next to nothing. you don't have to spend long reading AT to realise this. Hoyt address their core market well, and I don't blame them.

    as target shooters, we are lucky to be tossed a bone occasionally. speaking as a member of the latter group only though, I'd love nothing more than to drop $2 grand on a new toy this year. if not, then apparently the only one making any money out of me is going to be Winner's Choice.

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