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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcassius View Post
    I reckon there will be a flood of them for sale second hand in a few days
    I will be more than happy to take them off peoples hands.
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    After a recent tournament which I had to pull out 2/3rds of the way through (acute shoulder pain - waiting to see the doc Monday) I've resigned myself to the fact that I just can't continue to shoot something as demanding as the Spiral Pro style cams. Now some of my issue could very likely be a combo of my D/W (59.5 LB), mass weight on the stabs (37 Oz combined), method of drawing the bow, follow through and in a broader sense, general fitness.

    What I thought was appealing about the Prevail were reports that the draw stop position would offer easy transition between a Spiral Pro cam feeling at one end of the spectrum, to a GTX cam feeling at the other - BOTH from the same physical cam. On another note I'm curious to know what the new x3 cam is meant to feel like - perhaps the successor to the Hyper Edge style DFX cam? I've been advised that the draw cycle of the Hyper Edge DFX cam is much more gentle than that of my Podium X with Spiral Pro cams. I've always been a Spiral Pro cam fan since I started shooting 5 years ago, but feel that now if I want to continue in the sport I need a drastic overhaul of my gear and quite likely my technique to preserve my shoulder. Sadly, this change is more out of necessity rather than the '**** hot and shiny' syndrome that I usually have when buying new stuff, along with selecting something with more peer reviews (as with the Hyper Edge) then gamble on a very new product (Prevail).

    Either way I think what Hoyt have done is make the spiral cam successor allow the best of both worlds of adjustment, between the current spiral cam and the GTX. Previously this would always be a cam (and maybe a limb??) swap. I can see how this would be appealing to those who don't know which to choose, or are having shoulder issues and want to make the cam more GTX like - all the while without the hassle of cam change and going through heaps of tuning and potentially redoing sight tapes. Regardless of it being intentional or sheer coincidence, it's a clever cam.

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    I think the Prevail has been hit with the ugly stick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert43 View Post
    I think the Prevail has been hit with the ugly stick
    29X 300 looks pretty good to me , for the first day owning a prevail.

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    Just out of curiosity, what is it about the spiral cams that people find so demanding?
    I shoot spiral pro cams and honestly they are a lot smoother to pull compared to Z5 cams which are thought to be a relatively easy cam.
    The Z5 cams on the other hand are a lot harder to get going, dump into the valley and have an very soft wall.The only thing that might make spirals more demanding is the smaller valley and higher holding weight neither of which should be a problem if someone properly pulls through the shot. Also if the high holding weight is a problem someone could always go with smaller diameter cables, different cam timing or (god forbid...) lower peak weight. Considering that spirals are faster cams, one could go as much as 10lbs less and still be at more or less the same speed as a GTX cam
    I honestly find transitioning from the spirals cams to Z5 more difficult than the opposite.
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    Every year some pros shoot some bow and drop a big score out of the box with it. I'm pretty sure Braden did a 30x with the TRG and then used it in one competition.
    Him and Cousins did the same with the VantageElite and then didn't compete with them.

    Quote Originally Posted by icycold View Post
    29X 300 looks pretty good to me , for the first day owning a prevail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taz00 View Post
    Just out of curiosity, what is it about the spiral cams that people find so demanding?
    I think that in someone without shoulder issues, it's likely to be a matter of previous expectations and what you're used to.
    I find spiral X's satisfyingly notchy. GTX cams are kind of... generic and those cams on the PSE Omen scared the crap out of me.
    I did start about 30 years ago with eccentric wheels though, so I have some low expectations.
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    I find the Spirals to be very smooth and relatively gentle. Some others are much more demanding.
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    From the 2017 line i was looking at the FX and still not entirely sure what cam i will get with it as yet and i am liking the shorter ATA ever since i shot the proedge.

    With the Z5 cam. If you short peg it with a spiral peg and re tune it the cams are very nice and smooth. Yes it will increase your holding weight. I did a write up on these cams here on the forum.
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    Marcus, is it possible to get few photos of new X3 cams from few different angles, top and bottom also. I heard that it is some kind of new design version of C2 and Command cams. Thanks.

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    Marcus,
    Is Hoyt manufacturing the "hardlock" rear stabiliser mounts??? could other mounts (Shrewd) be modded with a file to suit the system? Are they available, do you have any pictures?

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    I have not seen anything come through yet on those. I would think a simple way of using it is to run the screw through the locking hole and onto the mount.
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    The Pervail in real life dosent look 1/2 as bad as the web site ( either that or its grown on me )
    Whats the X3 & SVX like compared to the GTX & Spiral pro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
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    What's the draw length, poundage and price on that one??? Prevail is the first bow in a while from hoyt that I have actually WANTED... they look awesome.

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    Here you go. Website shows which models are in stock.
    http://www.urbanarcherysupplies.com/...ail-37-x3.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert43 View Post
    The Pervail in real life dosent look 1/2 as bad as the web site ( either that or its grown on me )
    Whats the X3 & SVX like compared to the GTX & Spiral pro?
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    In particular, how does the wall stack up on the X3 with the adjustable peg?

    I agree with Brenton - that blue one has me checking my credit card balance.

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    Nice firm wall, more spiral type wall. Th draw cycle does feel more like the command cams though. Not like the GTX.
    But I've only drawn it once, not shot fully.
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