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    Total Peep

    Feedback has been positive on these new peeps from Europe.
    Designed & manufactured in Spain.

    Anyone on the Forum tested them ?

    Please excuse the "copy & paste" translation grammar -

    "For sure you have realized that when light conditions change or when your peep rotates, you experience left and right impacts in your target. That is the reason why we have developed TOTAL PEEP.
    Designed and developed with advanced tools, and tested by experts shooters and bowhunters, we have reached the final design that DELIVERS UNMATCHED ACCURACY IN ALL CONDITIONS.
    TOTAL PEEP allows you to see always a perfect black inner circle to aim with extreme accuracy in all light conditions, thanks to:
    . its complex inner design, calculated to prevent and block any light reflection either from the rear and the front side of the peep.
    . its total matt black colour and micro grit surface finish of the material."
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    I hope that finish is less abrasive than it looks.

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    That's neat.
    Someone has used the same technique as Elitus Archery's VNSA recurve aperture, but sideways on a peep.
    You'll likely get up to 15 degrees rotation either way without being able to see any change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott p View Post
    I hope that finish is less abrasive than it looks.
    Look like there been made out of a knife sharping stone
    Any 1 seen these units & thoughts ?
    http://www.precisionpeeps.com/product/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert43 View Post
    Look like there been made out of a knife sharping stone
    Any 1 seen these units & thoughts ?
    http://www.precisionpeeps.com/product/


    Yes, but manufactured with that finish has a purpose.

    & yes, those Precision peeps have been under discussion in the past. Mostly the thumbs down responses.
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    personally the only thing I have seen that might tempt me away from Specialty is the Hamskea peep. the tube seems a bit long to me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott p View Post
    personally the only thing I have seen that might tempt me away from Specialty is the Hamskea peep. the tube seems a bit long to me though.
    Yes, similar concept design to the Total Peep it seems.
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    Well, not really.

    The Hamskea peep has that internal light baffle which prevents light bouncing around inside the aperture. It's the same way that good optics do internal reflection control.

    The total peep can't do that because of the way it is designed to prevent going ovoid. The best it can do is have a small D sunshade.

    http://totalpeep.com/ is the website.
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    I like the textured finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Yes, similar concept design to the Total Peep it seems.
    I assumed the longer tube of the Hamskea was more around Tim Gillingham's idea from here.



    (forum plugin doesn't respect start point, FF to 3m10s for the bit I am talking about.)

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    Interesting.
    From the model bow, that was some years back, so it took a while for Hamskea to get to market .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post

    Anyone on the Forum tested them ?
    Yep, I have.

    Here is my review that I did for the company, please excuse all and any hyperbole:

    Ever had an important shot where you drew the bow back but all you saw was a dark blotch in front of your eye?

    No matter the quality or material of your string, peep rotation can and will eventually happen.

    I was interested to hear about Total Peep who claimed to have designed a peep sight which would not suffer aperture or image distortion from peep rotation of up to 40 degrees.
    I contacted them and was lucky enough to receive two sizes of their target line of peep sights (1/16” and 3/64”) for review. These weigh in at just over 10 grains each and are just slightly larger than a regular peep sight. The simple yet ingenious design removes the need for a long tubular peep which adds weight and increases the likelihood of peep rotation.

    The first thing I noticed was that the entire peep is coated in a matt black, micro grit finish. This helps to eliminate any potential glare coming from rays of light which would otherwise be reflected into the archer’s eye.

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    This finish is very durable, yet does not produce any wear on the string when moved. I have tested this by sliding it up and down a 4” portion of string several times without any evidence of wear.

    On the target side of the peep, the downward facing ‘D’ on the top half of the peep prevents an excessive amount of light from entering the peep. This is particularly useful when shooting outdoors, as oncoming bright sunlight often causes the view of the scope to ‘white out’ leaving you with a blurry sight picture at best or not being able to make out the target at all. Furthermore, on the archer’s side the aperture hole is recessed, resulting in a peep is always in shade.

    When installed on the string, the deep string grooves provide a very snug fit, removing need to tie the body in. At full draw, they sit at a perfect 45 degree angle towards the archer’s eye. They work perfectly on all of my bows with an ATA range from 36”-40”.

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    Ironically, I had to deliberately move the peep in order to test rotation claims. As the video shows, the limit of the peep is determined by the size of the aperture. The image changes only when the peep is rotated past 40 degrees, the point at which one side of the aperture is obscured.



    I have had these peep sights installed on my bow for a few weeks (over a moth now) now and have not needed make any adjustments since they were installed. Truly hassle free!

    These are a great offering for any compound archer who does not use a clarifier peep. They are very well designed, and not only live up to their headline claim regarding rotation, they also work extremely well indoors and out!
    Last edited by H.H; 2 Weeks Ago at 08:56 AM. Reason: the review was written a while ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.H View Post
    The simple yet ingenious design removes the need for a long tubular peep which adds weight and increases the likelihood of peep rotation.
    How does a long tubular peep increase the likelihood of peep rotation?

    I think someone has mixed up odds with detection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy! View Post
    How does a long tubular peep increase the likelihood of peep rotation?

    I think someone has mixed up odds with detection.
    I shot one (Peep-N-Tom by Tommy Gomez) for over a year. If you catch it on something such as a bow sleeve or knock it by accident it can move unless you tie it in tight (which is a pain if you have to move it).

    I have seen the Hamskea Peep in person and for what it's worth its a 3D shooter's wet dream.

    For target archers who don't use a clarifier it's quite an expensive redundancy.

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    For example, Tim Gillingham used to have what appeared to be a very weird anchor routine (about 6:10, right of frame)

    That's just to ensure that the peep sight sits in line at full draw, even Tommy's peep is not perfectly straight in the same video.

    Not saying that the tubular designs can't be made to sit straight, they can, just more prone to not being perfectly aligned (which is what the other peep is designed to counter)

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    I've been shooting a Hamskea peep for just over a week now. I have to say, given the choice between this and the Hamskea, I'd choose the Hamskea every time. I mainly chose it for the fact that the lens and aperture are seperate. I need a clraifier to be able to see my target properly, and always struggled with correct apperture size. I had about 3 different clarifiers at over $40 each just for different lighting conditions. And the lenses are a pain to clean as well.

    I was concerned with the length of the Hamskea myself, but after installing it, and aligning it, it hasn't been an issue, and I can have up to about 5 degrees either way before it's an issue. The thing I was most surprised with, is that after selecting an apperture for indoors, when I went outside, I didn't need to change. I'd always noticed that the brighter the light, the larger apperture I needed to be able to eclipse my scope in the peep properly. It seems the light baffling of the Hamskea does what it say it does.

    So even if I didn't need a clarifier, I'd probably still go with the Hamskea, just for the more consistent apperture size in different lighting conditions.

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