Another Recurve Manufacturer rears their heads.

[Zal]

Originally Posted by Harrison Ooi

Since you ask I felt that the prototype limb (Same that the FITA record holder used) felt quite similar to a Samick Extreme. But its impossible to tell unless you shoot something for maybe 6 months to really tell the difference.And no, I have not shot either Samick Extreme's or these limbs for a period of 6 months.

Limb that fita record holder used was made by MK korea, not Kaya. It is fairly similar to masters limb (since the developer used to work in Samick before). They are already widely available, I've shot several pairs and one archer I'm coaching is currently shooting them. One of our national team archers used 1404 for a while too, and liked them. Only problem is that its difficult to get right poundage, the marked weight isn't always quite correct.

Kaya limbs aren't that widely available yet, and Vittorio says that there are at least three prototype versions of vperf limbs around. I've seen two pairs, it is physically fairly heavy and that should explain the lack of speed (Vittorio says its similar to G3 in speed).

[Progen]

Originally Posted by Harrison Ooi

Since you ask I felt that the prototype limb (Same that the FITA record holder used) felt quite similar to a Samick Extreme. But its impossible to tell unless you shoot something for maybe 6 months to really tell the difference.And no, I have not shot either Samick Extreme's or these limbs for a period of 6 months.

I hate doing this to my fellow countryman but err ........

You felt that the Kaya prototype was similar to a Samick Extreme. Ok

You won't know the difference until you've shot something for 6 months. Ok

You have not shot the Samick Extreme or the Kaya prototype for 6 months. So whose opinion is it that they felt quite similar then?

It's already bad enough having a manufacturer whose brand means eggjam in my native language but these statements are confusing!!!

[Harrison Ooi]

Kaya Pao!!!

[Harrison Ooi]

Originally Posted by Zal

Limb that fita record holder used was made by MK korea, not Kaya. It is fairly similar to masters limb (since the developer used to work in Samick before). They are already widely available, I've shot several pairs and one archer I'm coaching is currently shooting them. One of our national team archers used 1404 for a while too, and liked them. Only problem is that its difficult to get right poundage, the marked weight isn't always quite correct.

Kaya limbs aren't that widely available yet, and Vittorio says that there are at least three prototype versions of vperf limbs around. I've seen two pairs, it is physically fairly heavy and that should explain the lack of speed (Vittorio says its similar to G3 in speed).

Sorry, I must have got confused between the 2. I tried these

http://www.archerykaki.com/forum/dow...file.php?id=17

Oh Jin Hyek's bow. Seeing that it was the same archer, I thought these were the commercial versions of these limbs.

[Darren.P]

Should i ?, just because they have my name on them

[primal]

Yes! You Should

[Progen]

Does kaya mean anything in any of your native languages? It's just too difficult to take something like the ubiquitous eggjam seriously.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Kaya, also called sri kaya (from the word meaning "rich" in Malay based on its golden color) or coconut egg jam, is a coconut jam made from coconut milk, duck or chicken eggs which are flavored by pandan leaf and sweetened with sugar. The spread originated in Southeast Asia, most likely Indonesia or Malaysia. This is reflected by its tropical ingredients santan (coconut milk) and pandan leaf. Kaya is sweet and creamy, available as a golden brown or green colored spread depending on the amount of pandan and extent of caramelization of the sugar. As with other jams, kaya is typically spread on toast to make kaya toast and eaten in the morning but is enjoyed throughout the day.
Kaya is used as a topping for several desserts including pulut taitai or pulut tekan, a dessert of sweet glutinous rice coloured blue with butterfly pea flowers (bunga telang), and pulut seri muka, a similar dessert but coloured green with pandan leaves. It is also used with glutinous rice to make kuih seri kaya.

ps. Plus those limbs just don't look blingy enough.

[Vittorio]

Kaya is the brand of the factory that in the past was making Cy-Bow branded limbs. It has been established around 3 years ago by some people formerly working in W&W. Last September during World Championship in Ulsan they asked me if I could have their new top level limbs named V-perf tested by my son, and sent a first pair around end September. Since then, Michele has shot several thousand arrows with these limbs and two other pairs he has received up to now, so I have to say we know these limbs quite well now.
Speed is a little bit low, compared to W&W recent limbs, but probably similar to the one Hoyt G3. Their real added content is torsional stability, that allows quite "hard" releases without big damages.
Michele has shot in official indoor competitions with them from October to now 587/592/588/585 and finally 596 (298+298 ) just yesterday, winning on the way the finals in Nimes and a the Italian Indoor Champs. In training he has shot a couple of time a perfect 300, he was not getting since years.
Just few minutes ago, back from training, he has told me that today he has shot up to 36 consecutive 10's, ending a 60 arrows scored training 300+297...
Of course, at present he is in very good form, so we can't give the merit of the results 100% to the limbs (and the riser, as he is back to his old Best Zenit), but for sure comparative testings over 4 months now have shown he could get at 18 mt. 2 to 3 points over 30 arrows average more from these limbs than from those he was using before.
Only remark, poundage maked tends to be similar to Samick one, or 1 to 2# more than expected.
Is Kaya going to be the "next" giant? Presently is only a small factory with very dedicated and passionate people, but W&W was in a very similar situation, 12 yers ago.... Time will tell.
As far as relationships with Fiberbow are concerned, they are Kaya distributors in Europe. Mauro Nespoli is also shooting Kaya V-Perf limbs on FB, and got 590 yesterday behind my son.

[chang]

Originally Posted by Progen

Does kaya mean anything in any of your native languages? It's just too difficult to take something like the ubiquitous eggjam seriously.

Kaya/Gaya was the name of a korean states/tribe during 2nd or 3rd century. and being conquered later on by the Silla state

[Regius]

Originally Posted by Vittorio

As far as relationships with Fiberbow are concerned, they are Kaya distributors in Europe. Mauro Nespoli is also shooting Kaya V-Perf limbs on FB, and got 590 yesterday behind my son.

Yesterday Michele won the gold medal in Porec cat. Team and Silver medal individual.

The other informations are that is not Fiberbow the european distibutors, but KFAtrading. the web site is: www.KFAtrading.com

The target is also to know some italian products to all the world. For now the web is work in progress and only in Italian languages, but in some weeks will be ready in Engish and France version.

[kimbeech]

They also make a carbon riser as well as 5 limb types, starting from the wood laminate to top of the line carbon foam also stabilizers.

http://www.kayaarchery.com/risers.html
http://www.kayaarchery.com/limbs0.html
You can pick up one from Alternative Archery for less than $1000.00, thats riser and carbon foam limbs

[Zal]

I have been using Kaya's Soul Maker stabilizers for a while now. I have to say that they are well made and perform extremely well. Probably the best all around stabilizers that I've had, and I've had a few. Very light in weight, and stiff enough at least for me.

I'm actually quite surprised that my trusted beiters have been gathering dust for a month or so now.

[gt]

Originally Posted by Regius

Yesterday Michele won the gold medal in Porec cat. Team and Silver medal individual..

...with the rest of the sentence being "having been defeated in the finals by Sebastian Roherberg shooting a Hoyt Helix/990TX."

[Progen]

Hey Georgie, did you really have to do that?

[straat]

You would do the same in his position Progen. It's a great way to advertise a discontinued product

[Regius]

Originally Posted by straat

You would do the same in his position Progen. It's a great way to advertise a discontinued product

Yeah....

[BenDy]

I must admit, the risers do look nice. The red and yellow works surprisingly well.

[Regius]

Originally Posted by kimbeech

They also make a carbon riser as well as 5 limb types, starting from the wood laminate to top of the line carbon foam also stabilizers.
You can pick up one from Alternative Archery for less than $1000.00, thats riser and carbon foam limbs

Here the Arco e Frecce ( Italian store) prices:
Harrier http://www.arcoefrecce.it/arcieria/d...?Codice=459703
Limbs: http://www.arcoefrecce.it/arcieria/t...p?ID_tipo=1005

[Sandy Hancock]

Hawthorn, Sturt, Essendon and the mighty Stirling East Double Whites. Just in time for the footy season. Who'd have thought they were Aussie Rules fans

[Dangerous_Dave]

Originally Posted by kimbeech

They also make a carbon riser

I'm don't think it's carbon? Or at least carbon as we know it. From the Alternative description:

"The 25 inch CNC machined riser is constructed from a uniform composite material with inherent damping properties"

Might open up a new opportunity for "carbon is better than aluminium is better than CNC machined composite is better than carbon" arguments if anyone wants to start