Sick of the wind - Archery Forum

Release_chucker · 08-02-2010, 06:29 PM

So having shot down in mana (wellington) on several occasions I have decided that the winds down there cost me a lot more points then other archers around me. Now this is decent wind we're talking about.

I shoot an evo and I don't think that helps but Im after some advice to try and get my wind scores up.

So far I've found that fine tuning the drawlength has helped and that there is such thing as to much weight on the stabiliser.

burt666 · 08-02-2010, 06:30 PM

shoot more in the wind + have white hot confidence

Sandy Hancock · 08-02-2010, 06:32 PM

Get a trigger.
Punch.

dbjac · 08-02-2010, 06:44 PM

Don't tell yourself you can't shoot in the wind, or you're setting yourself up for a lower score right off the bat.

burt666 · 08-02-2010, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbjac

Don't tell yourself you can't shoot in the wind, or you're setting yourself up for a lower score right off the bat.

and, right now, do not think of a black cat at all...

Reformulate in: DO tell yourself you can shoot well in the wind!

Kilt_Monster · 08-02-2010, 07:24 PM

The most important thing in wind in my opinion is confidence in your shot. I have always worked by the adage that you lose more points from a bad shot than from improper windage adjustment.

The key tendancy is to keep drifting back to the gold and trying to put the arrow in the gold. I have to consciously tell myself in my head "I am aiming at the red" or whatever, and consciously make sure that the shot is trying to go there - otherwise any effort I make usually ends up in my body trying to send the arrow back to the gold.

Get your shot confidence right, then all you have to worry about is getting the experience of different winds. Make use of the flags!

dilligaf · 08-02-2010, 08:24 PM

I hate shooting in the wind with a passion. I can't remember the last time i shot target where it wasn't windy that also includes club days.

On the weekend I shot a PB at 90m 338 then a wind came up shot a 337@70 then the wind really picked up and i shot a 317@50m, by the time we shot 30m the wind had settled to a breeze and the rain had started and i finished with a 350.

For me if the wind isn't pushing the bow around to much its not the end of the world you just have to concentrate on were to aim and don't try and aim to tight in the middle, If the bow is being pushed around and you are on the clock then sometimes just hitting the target is all i can hope for.

Sir Slick · 09-02-2010, 11:17 AM

Read the gusts - don't draw up when its calm, draw up just before it gets calm (or calmer at Mana) so that when you fire you will be as still as possible.

Don't just rely on flags look downrange in the direction the wind is coming from to see what the vegetation is doing as well - and listen to the wind.

Shoot stronger/faster. You can still use a back tension type device successfully in the wind (take a look at Mandy's scores - she was shooting BT and was 40 points ahead of people with triggers).

But I know how you feel

James Park · 09-02-2010, 01:26 PM

I like the wind.
Especially for tournaments.
Gives me an advantage.

primal · 09-02-2010, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Slick

Read the gusts - don't draw up when its calm, draw up just before it gets calm (or calmer at Mana) so that when you fire you will be as still as possible.

Don't just rely on flags look downrange in the direction the wind is coming from to see what the vegetation is doing as well - and listen to the wind.

also use the back of your neck.

As the wind builds it will get colder on your neck, as the wind dies down it will get warmer.

And listen for the wind.

That said dont freak out when you hear the wind. Stay calm and believe in your shot process.

crosshairs · 09-02-2010, 04:44 PM

It's only wind.

The only fair thing in shooting, is the wind. It blows, EVERYWHERE and EVERYONE.

Release_chucker · 09-02-2010, 05:33 PM

Cheers fellas (well maybe not Jim

). I'll give all that a go next time it's breezy.

Curse of Napier is that it might not be for sometime.

dbjac · 09-02-2010, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Release_chucker

Curse of Napier is that it might not be for sometime.

Oh that sounds terrible, my heart bleeds for you. Truely!

bicko123 · 09-02-2010, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by primal

also use the back of your neck.

As the wind builds it will get colder on your neck, as the wind dies down it will get warmer.

And listen for the wind.

That said dont freak out when you hear the wind. Stay calm and believe in your shot process.

Sandy Hancock · 10-02-2010, 12:22 AM

Cut all the trees down.

Release_chucker · 10-02-2010, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Hancock

Cut all the trees down.

More like dig away the hills. I am in the process of finding an exposed place to shoot at ocassionally, as there's no point training in sheltered conditions when there's only one shoot a year at this ground.

Marcus · 10-02-2010, 08:52 AM

Trees cause wind.
http://www.archery-forum.com/showthread.php?t=13832

Kaalboog · 10-02-2010, 09:38 AM

My 2cw
Avoid releasing when there is a gust, wait for it to go.
The wind blows you more than the arrow, so ensure you have a solid stance with a low centre of gravity. When you stiffen your body the C of G moves up, relax and it moves down. Read the wind with all available to you, flags, grass trees etc and try to shoot in the same wind strength each time. Use the colour of the wind. If it blows the arrow in the red, aim in the red on the other side of the gold. When you adjust jour sights for wind, you are going to forget where you started.
If you wait at full draw in the wind, you are going to get tired by the end of the shoot. Time your shots in the stiller gaps.
K

Drift_Puncher · 10-02-2010, 09:59 AM

Grip & rip

failing that, get to know how much bubble to give when in different winds

crosshairs · 10-02-2010, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaalboog

....... Use the colour of the wind. ......K

I liked the way you said that ;p

08-02-2010, 06:29 PM	#1
Release_chucker 3rd Class Join Date: Jul 2008 • Vantage Elite • X10 PTs, X7s Richmondvale AC Location: Hawkes Bay Posts: 207 Rep Power: 1280	Sick of the wind So having shot down in mana (wellington) on several occasions I have decided that the winds down there cost me a lot more points then other archers around me. Now this is decent wind we're talking about. I shoot an evo and I don't think that helps but Im after some advice to try and get my wind scores up. So far I've found that fine tuning the drawlength has helped and that there is such thing as to much weight on the stabiliser. __________________ It's only a game

08-02-2010, 06:30 PM	#2
burt666 embraces the Dark Side Join Date: Jun 2006 • ProElite • A/C/E 520 Auckland Archery Club Inc., scavenging at Archery Imports Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 2,384 Blog Entries: 16 Rep Power: 17793	shoot more in the wind + have white hot confidence __________________ Homer, you know how unpredictable the French are: one minute they are kissing a woman's hand, the next they are chopping off her head! Marge Simpson When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity. Albert Einstein Ultra Black (tm) high performance armguard elastic Staff Shooter Hoyt GMX Appreciation Society

08-02-2010, 06:32 PM	#3
Sandy Hancock So last century Join Date: May 2003 • Hoyt • Easton AAC Location: Imladris Posts: 4,477 Rep Power: 25370	Get a trigger. Punch. __________________ "I have alcohol-free days all the time. It is the evenings I have trouble with."

08-02-2010, 06:44 PM	#4
dbjac You know it! Join Date: May 2005 • '09 Red Ember VantageElite. • Easton 470 Protours, Tungsten. Moorabbin Archery Club. Location: Mentone Posts: 5,029 Rep Power: 25002	Don't tell yourself you can't shoot in the wind, or you're setting yourself up for a lower score right off the bat. __________________

08-02-2010, 08:24 PM	#7
dilligaf 1st Class Join Date: Oct 2006 • Elite Envy #70 • Nano XR, easton light speeds Hunter Bowmen Posts: 601 Rep Power: 1973	I hate shooting in the wind with a passion. I can't remember the last time i shot target where it wasn't windy that also includes club days. On the weekend I shot a PB at 90m 338 then a wind came up shot a 337@70 then the wind really picked up and i shot a 317@50m, by the time we shot 30m the wind had settled to a breeze and the rain had started and i finished with a 350. For me if the wind isn't pushing the bow around to much its not the end of the world you just have to concentrate on were to aim and don't try and aim to tight in the middle, If the bow is being pushed around and you are on the clock then sometimes just hitting the target is all i can hope for. __________________ A Bad days Fishing is better then a good day at work

08-02-2010, 07:24 PM	#6
Kilt_Monster 1st Class Join Date: Oct 2008 • Hoyt Nexus • Easton X7 Various Location: The island in 'The Pond' Posts: 744 Rep Power: 3318	The most important thing in wind in my opinion is confidence in your shot. I have always worked by the adage that you lose more points from a bad shot than from improper windage adjustment. The key tendancy is to keep drifting back to the gold and trying to put the arrow in the gold. I have to consciously tell myself in my head "I am aiming at the red" or whatever, and consciously make sure that the shot is trying to go there - otherwise any effort I make usually ends up in my body trying to send the arrow back to the gold. Get your shot confidence right, then all you have to worry about is getting the experience of different winds. Make use of the flags!

09-02-2010, 11:17 AM	#8
Sir Slick Baked Join Date: May 2007 • Hoyt Vantage Elite (Red Ember) • x10 450's Mana AC Location: Wellington Posts: 211 Rep Power: 893	Read the gusts - don't draw up when its calm, draw up just before it gets calm (or calmer at Mana) so that when you fire you will be as still as possible. Don't just rely on flags look downrange in the direction the wind is coming from to see what the vegetation is doing as well - and listen to the wind. Shoot stronger/faster. You can still use a back tension type device successfully in the wind (take a look at Mandy's scores - she was shooting BT and was 40 points ahead of people with triggers). But I know how you feel

09-02-2010, 01:26 PM	#9
James Park Engineer & student Join Date: Jul 2001 • Hoyt Carbon Matrix • Protour size 420, X7's for indoor DVA Location: Glen Waverley, Australia Posts: 10,528 Rep Power: 13884	I like the wind. Especially for tournaments. Gives me an advantage. __________________ Winners' Choice strings Shibuya sights Titan scopes

09-02-2010, 04:44 PM	#11
crosshairs Newtype Gundam Pilot Join Date: Oct 2002 • W&W INNO CXT • X10 ACS, PPCC, ZHENGHUA, SIBJUM, HTNS, Tampines West Archery Clubs.... Location: Isle of Weirdosssssss..... Posts: 451 Rep Power: 24	It's only wind. The only fair thing in shooting, is the wind. It blows, EVERYWHERE and EVERYONE. __________________ Everybody wants to be pleased, but you can't please everyone.

09-02-2010, 05:33 PM	#12
Release_chucker 3rd Class Join Date: Jul 2008 • Vantage Elite • X10 PTs, X7s Richmondvale AC Location: Hawkes Bay Posts: 207 Rep Power: 1280	Cheers fellas (well maybe not Jim ). I'll give all that a go next time it's breezy. Curse of Napier is that it might not be for sometime. __________________ It's only a game

10-02-2010, 12:22 AM	#15
Sandy Hancock So last century Join Date: May 2003 • Hoyt • Easton AAC Location: Imladris Posts: 4,477 Rep Power: 25370	Cut all the trees down. __________________ "I have alcohol-free days all the time. It is the evenings I have trouble with."

10-02-2010, 08:52 AM	#17
Marcus Sneaker Pimp Join Date: Jun 2001 • Hoyt Vantage Elite Spiral X • Easton 470 Protours CBE Sight Urban Archery Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 26,809 Rep Power: 32926	Trees cause wind. http://www.archery-forum.com/showthread.php?t=13832 __________________ It's only a problem, if you make it a problem.

10-02-2010, 09:38 AM	#18
Kaalboog Barebower Join Date: Aug 2008 • A Blue PSE • 510 FMJ's none Location: Eastern suburbs, Melbourne Posts: 125 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 257	Wind My 2cw Avoid releasing when there is a gust, wait for it to go. The wind blows you more than the arrow, so ensure you have a solid stance with a low centre of gravity. When you stiffen your body the C of G moves up, relax and it moves down. Read the wind with all available to you, flags, grass trees etc and try to shoot in the same wind strength each time. Use the colour of the wind. If it blows the arrow in the red, aim in the red on the other side of the gold. When you adjust jour sights for wind, you are going to forget where you started. If you wait at full draw in the wind, you are going to get tired by the end of the shoot. Time your shots in the stiller gaps. K __________________ The bow is bare, but the arrows are fletched

10-02-2010, 09:59 AM	#19
Drift_Puncher Steve Clifton Join Date: Nov 2006 • Hoyt Vantage Elite • Easton Protours Mountain Green Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 730 Rep Power: 4100	Grip & rip failing that, get to know how much bubble to give when in different winds __________________ http://www.stevesarchery.com/ Hoyt Easton Doinker Trophy Taker Shibuya JD Strings Carter Enterprises Socx Wraps Flex Fletch Beiter

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode